Grooming children with clothing - Your thoughts?

What grooms kids more?

  • Pride Supportive clothing

  • Regular clothing (ie - girls short shorts)

  • Neither

  • Both

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Not getting younger

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“Not a big deal”.
In the east women can’t brush their teeth without permission. Are forced into marriages and so much more I find abhorant.

In the West.
im guessing you didn’t even skim the links I provided. I can add more. Shall I.

But in all fairness and I seriously do not mean to offend you. A spades a spade is all. You were raised in a culture that most certainly treats women like objects. Maybe that’s why it’s “not a big deal”?
 

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Ask why anyone is paying Drag Queens to parade before an audience of children.
Because if you knew anything about drag - it is not all about sex. It could be a guy dressed as 50s house wife. No one said anything to Robin Williams when he made a children’s movie in drag.

Why are you relating everything back to sex. It is a person in a dress. In adult drag shows, plenty of adult humour and stuff. Kids - no. They are entertainers. Not pedophiles.
 

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1) it’s called sarcasm. Learn to recognize it. With respect to both “princess”, which clearly because word associations are lost you, I’ll take you by the hand. Princess is to beauty pageants…

and “permission to brush their teeth”. Also heavy sarcasm. For a culture that still has honour killings, doesn’t allow women to go to school, and much more. Doesn’t even come close to treating them as humans. Just objects.


2) “you” Kautilya (want to tell the board what that stands for) referred to Middle East cultures.

3) you, yes you regardless of your origins said and I quote. Whether Eastern or Western cultures

“it’s no big deal”
There is no getting around that.
 

Not getting younger

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“Whether Eastern or western cultures, it’s no big deal…”

that is all that need to be said.

Whether or not you are Hindu, or subscribe to it. Or chose a word association yourself. That is secondary and now utter delflection.
 

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More deflection as were your attacks on/me for using “princess”…which should have been obvious why…..

you are kind of known for deflecting. Not surprised.

and you know, as well as everyone else reading. The “thread” had expanded well beyond just clorhing for toddlers. I mean shit just look at the image

you chose

But if you really want to try and grasp onto something. “Fine” let’s limit it to just how Middle East cultures force. Daughters, their GFs, their wives ( arranged or not) to dress and the penalties for not obeying.


“it’s no big deal”

says a lot unfortunately
 

John_Jacob

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Beats me why people are blaming Drag Queens for children being there. It's not like children magically appeared there...they were brought by their parents.

So, the question is, why are parents bringing their children to adult-themed shows?
 

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Beats me why people are blaming Drag Queens for children being there. It's not like children magically appeared there...they were brought by their parents.

So, the question is, why are parents bringing their children to adult-themed shows?
Well this begs the question.

Is drag automatically “adult-themed” because it is a man dressing as a woman? Or is the material of the show what makes it “adult-themed”?

You could have a person dressed a clown suit but make penis balloons while telling pegging jokes.

So it is the attire or the material?
 
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Not getting younger

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More deflection. It’s what you do…. hey everybody, look anywhere but at what I said…yep, I said that. Can you guess why. But she is extremely attractive if you prefer.

How can anyone not take issue with. Whether Eastern or western culture. It’s no big deal.

Personally don’t care if you’re Hindu. Your attacks for striking too close to home also say a lot. As I said, in all fairness……

/ignored
 

Butler1000

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Well this begs the question.

Is drag automatically “adult-themed” because it is a man dressing as a woman? Or is the material of the show what makes it “adult-themed”?

You could have a person dressed a clown suit but make penis balloons while telling pegging jokes.

So it is the attire or the material?
So Ross Petty does drag at Xmas every year. But it is Pantomime drag. Other comedians also did drag dating back to Minton Berle, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, in modern media and to doubt even further.

But it was always played solely for laughs. A dude in a dress looks unfainly, funny, and with a bit if over the top action just works.

The readings etc are as much about politicizing things. And quite simply some parents don't want their kids education time in grade school to be about politics. They want to maintain their innocence for a bit.
That I think is where the line is.

I believe in the use of sex education to teach about being gay. As much as about the biological functions and societal standards of behavior. I think most parents agree.
 

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So Ross Petty does drag at Xmas every year. But it is Pantomime drag. Other comedians also did drag dating back to Minton Berle, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, in modern media and to doubt even further.

But it was always played solely for laughs. A dude in a dress looks unfainly, funny, and with a bit if over the top action just works.

The readings etc are as much about politicizing things. And quite simply some parents don't want their kids education time in grade school to be about politics. They want to maintain their innocence for a bit.
That I think is where the line is.

I believe in the use of sex education to teach about being gay. As much as about the biological functions and societal standards of behavior. I think most parents agree.
Are you suggesting that drag queens only do readings for political reasons? That the only people who hire drag queens for readings do it for political reason?

Can a drag reading only be acceptable if it is funny as well???? Because a man dressed again, as 50s house wife reading in funny voices would be laugh worthy. Depending on the voices and the material. Kids love funny voices.

I think there is a lot of labeling going on. And incorrectly at that

Now if you can show me drag readings that are inappropriate - I will happily call them out.
 
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John_Jacob

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Well this begs the question.

Is drag automatically “adult-themed” because it is a man dressing as a woman? Or is the material of the show what makes it “adult-themed”?

You could have a person dressed a clown suit but make penis balloons while telling pegging jokes.

So it is the attire or the material?
I think you're being really unfair here /s. You have me by the balls for just less than one week so I just can't post flippant outrageous shit just to piss you off in my response to you.....:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:so FINE, I'll try to give a sincere answer...such that it is.

Naturally a drag show is not default adult-themed merely because a man dresses as a woman (for the most part). Anything can be sexualized, rule 34 and all that. I mean, the Scottish wear dresses all the time and they turned out ok right?
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Queuing the outlier outrage-videos, it's both of course. How provocative is the attire and what do you do with it as with anything. Throw in, "what is the intent" of that particular show and thus, the outrage mob.

For example, I'm sure Rainbow Dildo Butt Monkey had a perfect child friendly non-sexualized show but ...perhaps, maybe...his attire was not really suited for a 45 minute show for 3 to 8 year old children's story time and should be unacceptable in most rational circles.

WHY the library thought this is a good choice for children's story time is an excellent example of the willing-blindness people will put themselves through just to be seen as an 'ally'. Thus, the protests.
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As the alternative, I'm sure the Gia Munster show at TDB was perfectly tame - more like dress-up story time. Sure, some parents don't want their kids exposed to men in drag but it's far more acceptable than, say, the 5 year old sexualized beauty pageant (at least to some).

I can't get worked up enough to spend 2 seconds on something like this TDSB thing. However parents SHOULD be able to withdraw their kids from it if they want.

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However, for the most part, I must align with Kitty Demure's (her? him? being a subject matter expert) now well-watched video on the subject AS A WHOLE which I 'think' likely covers much of the original intent of drag shows and the surrounding controversy. I have yet to see a good counter argument to their rant. Again, it's not the shows themselves but the parents who bring their children to the obvious adult shows. Now excuse me while I take my 6 year old nephew to watch the Dallas Cheerleaders lift their legs so we can peek under their dresses during their show on national television. Perfectly fine parenting of course :D

On a barely-related aside, I think it was a fucking outrage rip off that Priyanka won Season One of Canada's Drag Race when clearly Rita Baga was much much better. A clear case of ageism and anti-Quebecois bias. Three years later, I'm still pissed. Also, Jameela Jamil is a waste of time, band-wagon-ing, pick-me wannabe fake who has absolutely no right to be a judge on Legendary. She obviously bought her way in and it shows. She damages the brand. THIS I can get worked up about. Change my mind.
 
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Are you suggesting that drag queens only do readings for political reasons? That the only people who hire drag queens for readings do it for political reason?

Can a drag reading only be acceptable if it is funny as well???? Because a man dressed again, as 50s house wife reading in funny voices would be laugh worthy. Depending on the voices and the material. Kids love funny voices.

I think there is a lot of labeling going on. And incorrectly at that

Now if you can show me drag readings that are inappropriate - I will happily call them out.
I'm suggesting enough do, and make sure to get the media attention for doing it, that they cause the label to be applied.
 

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Reading story books to them with titles like "My Two Dads" featuring cartoons of men cornholing each gave me a different impression.
Can you share the link to the book showing “cornholing”?

I don’t have a problem with a book about two dads. I can’t see a children’s book about two dad having cartoon porn in it.
 
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I'm suggesting enough do, and make sure to get the media attention for doing it, that they cause the label to be applied.
I don’t know. I follow the careers of some of these drag queens and they are nothing like you describe.
 
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