I am assuming you are American?
Because that's definitely not the way "we were" in this country.
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Guns in America: 12 year old girl murders father with gun, then kills herself
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Because that's definitely not the way "we were" in this country.
If you go back in time, I suspect that suicides have always been the majority of gun deaths. Anyway, your attitude towards suicides is noted.
No.
The article is frank about the decline in GV deaths. Nothing's being hidden. Violent crime is down generally from levels 50 years ago, with the startling exception of random mass shootings, which have soared.
But you guys seem to be missing the worst tragedy of guns. Which is the death and injury due to gun accident.
It's ten of thousands of life shattered each because of gun mishandling.
I might suggest going back to it, and pay attention to what words are bold and using larger fonts…..
Go ahead, count them. And then come back and say it’s remotely “balanced” or remotely interested in getting readers to read the fine print. And with respect to the only stat that matters, carry’s weigh ( the GV/capita)…how often is that mentioned…
lol…..
On suicides.
Huge topic. Especially these days and especially amongst middle aged men, and youth. It’s been a few years since I looked at various rates, did “deep dives”. Can say, at the time the US/Canadian rates were much the same. And the trend since around the 60s. Much the same.
but on that topic. Why is the discussion about suicides with firearms and not “suicide amongst middle aged men. An epidemic”.. and getting at the disease not the symptoms…
/food for thought.
81% of Americans believe in the right to keep and bear arms.
Roughly 51% support more gun control. That has actually fallen a few points in recent years.
Neither major political party is supporting legislation that balances those 2 positions.
Roughly 51% support more gun control. That has actually fallen a few points in recent years.
Neither major political party is supporting legislation that balances those 2 positions.
In other words I would say to Americans to forget the thought and prayers and keep killing yourself. As long as you kill your own peers.
Sad truth.
The more ignorant people are of guns, the less gun violence and mass shootings there are. Its just fact. Lets take the 2 most populated countries, China and India. How many mass shootings do you hear from there? Both countries have strict gun laws and people there know squat about ballistics, kinetic energy etc., Then consider Canada (ignoring the US for a sec), atleast a minority know guns, have a history of possessing guns etc., And we have had a few mass shootings have we not? It seems to be the more immersed in gun culture a country is, the more gun violence there is.
He doesn't have any man. For him it is arbitrary politics where he has to take sides. Not that he had to ever send his kid to school and worry if they will come back, or if he will get gunned down in a mall or some such. So he is enjoying the security that Canadian stricter gun laws afford him while conveniently taking a right wing position for the US. lol.
Logic doesn't work with you. I've given up. And debaters better than I are discovering the same thing. They are ripping you to shreds and you just don't get it.
I'm sure that I can come up with more of them for you.
I just saw on abc news there have been 21,000 shot in the US just so far this year.
And the funniest thing of all is that I'll bet you anything he doesn't even own guns, just like the vast majority of Canadians. Most likely, he's just trying to defend the American right-wing narrative of how guns are great.
without googling it. Do you know roughly how many firearms are privately owned in Canada? I’m guessing you would be surprised.
Do you also know, that all the scary black guns used in the USs worst mass shootings. Are available and owned here? How many horrible events can you name, where they have been used here???? Funny thing that. Must be something toxic in the air they breathe.
“us gun culture” and the NRA.
Personally despite being a gun owner, and a proponent of gun control, so long as it makes sense, which for the past 25 years here. It hasn’t thanks to people who don’t know much but whose votes matter. And politicians who always want the easy answers, but don’t actually want to address problems.
I hate the NRA. They are part of the problem there. Albeit a small one
Ok. Tiberius.
list the oh so many tragic events in Canada…I’ll bet you can’t name 5 without Google.
While you’re at it. Google the gun death per capita ( if you know what that is) for the US and Canada. I’ll help you out some when adjusted for gang bangers it’s well under 1 here.
You must believe it’s fairy dust or something in the air they breathe. Because here….despite cold hard statistic facts….
you can’t name 5
want to know whose responsible for the blood on our streets. The Jane Crebas and many more.
you are.
25+ years of wanting your vote. Lying to you, the un knowledgeable, ( ignorance) and pulling the wool over the gullibles eyes. And screaming the sky is falling, chasing the wrong things, because it’s just sooooo much easier, that won’t do much.
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I can name a few from memory. The Vaughn apartment complex shootings, the Nova Scotia shootings, the 80s anti-feminist shootings, the landlord who killed both his tenants just recently to name a few.
Now can you name me even 1 mass shootings by civilians in India or China in the last 50 years?
Yup, that's right. You cannot. Because the answer is ZERO.
Case closed.
Yep, and how many of those were traced to gang bangers and smuggling. “Case closed”
And not a surprise that when presented with the cold hard uncomfortable truth, that the blood on our streets is your fault. For being ignorant, gullible, and where/how/why you cast your vote.
/tuck tail and run..
china.
Have you looked at a globe recently?
Case closed
And not a surprise that when presented with the cold hard uncomfortable truth, that the blood on our streets is your fault. For being ignorant, gullible, and where/how/why you cast your vote.
/tuck tail and run..
china.
Have you looked at a globe recently?
Case closed
I guess that the same way some people can't handle booze or junk food, the Americans have trouble handling guns when it comes to gun deaths.
In that vein, keep booze away from alcoholics is the accepted measure, as is keep junk food away from junk food addicts and then very simply conclude to keep guns away from Americans. You can't beat logic.
the US is sick. And I mean that with all definitions of the term. The fact is the gun death per capita ( which did anyone notice Tiberius conveniently ignored) I think now is 14. Not many years ago it was 11.
Ours is under 2. When adjusted for gang bangers 0.7 or their abouts. Has to be the air.
Anyone that’s ever worked with Stats, would call the USs gun stats. Dirty bath water. And that’s putting it politely.
Absolutely none of the mass shootings I mentioned in Canada had anything to do with gangbangers or smugglers. What are you talking about man? What cold hard uncomfortable truth did you present? What blood on our streets is my fault?
