Who has it harder in life? Men or women?

[dirtyharry555]

And yet they still get gender-based quota's to give them a leg up. Women have no idea how much we mollycoddle them.

This is only true in the West (Canada/USA/Western Europe). In most of the world, I think that men and women both live deplorably hard and an argument can be made that it's much worse for women.

But you're right. Here in the West, women are coddled. When you speak to women one-on-one (the ordinary non-radical feminist type), they tend to agree.

They can be demonstrably inferior (e.g. the WNBA), yet have the audacity to demand the same pay as male superstars without any shame (because they know that nobody in the mainstream will call them out on it). Put the best male highschool basketball team in the country against the best WNBA team and the latter would get crushed.

 

[dirtyharry555]

While there are definitely things men experience that are very hard that women do not, when it comes down to it and I ask myself if I’d rather have been born a woman, the answer is always no.

The answer to this for me doesn't consider whether men or women have life harder.

I would never want to be a woman because:

1. I like being physically strong, being capable of defending myself, and have a commanding presence
2. I prefer to think logically rather than emotionally
3. I love having a penis

 

[massman]

The answer to this for me doesn't consider whether men or women have life harder.

I would never want to be a woman because:

1. I like being physically strong. being capable of defending myself, and have a commanding presence
2. I prefer to think logically rather than emotionally
3. I love having a penis

All fair points. For me I wouldn’t want to have to deal with what they deal with, more than the shit I have to deal with as a guy.

 

[dirtyharry555]

Man and woman in an elevator. Both are anxious of the other. Why? Because she is afraid he will rape her and he is afraid she will accuse him falsely of rape.

OMG what kind of elevators do you use?

I've never been anxious in an elevator nor have I been afraid that a woman standing in an elevator with me would falsely accuse me of rape.

 

[Jenesis]

OMG what kind of elevators do you use?

I've never been anxious in an elevator nor have I been afraid that a woman standing in an elevator with me would falsely accuse me of rape.

OMG Nothing - Don’t play daft with me.

This example of men and women alone together has been said thousands of times before. Elevator, boardroom, whatever/wherever. It is the same shit. Has even been written about in this thread by others talking about women falsely accusing men. And since we know you are not an idiot - you know women have fears - ones you would call irrational - but they still have them. So stop fucking around.

 

[Pleasure Hound]

I have never felt insecure that a woman will accuse me of rape while alone in an elevator. But that doesn't mean the woman wasn't feeling it. A lot of times women have fears that seem irrational but may be they have a reason. Like a girl once told me that the elevator in my apartment doesn't have a corner mirror and when I inquired she said she uses it to check who is on the other side of an elevator if she was approaching at an angle. Never would have thought to do that as a guy. lol.

You know, it is possible that the woman alone with you in the elevator is wondering what you are like in bed.....

.....unless you fart, of course, then all bets are off.....

 

[angrymime666]

I seriously hope that you never say anything like this to women.....

all the time

 

[Resetset]

The left says you can't make a poll like this without including all genders.

 

[angrymime666]

And a lot of women - if asked - would say no to wanting to be born a man.

The war of the sexes is kinda stupid when you really break it down. We are two sides of the same coin.


Man and woman in an elevator. Both are anxious of the other. Why? Because she is afraid he will rape her and he is afraid she will accuse him falsely of rape.


There are so many of these types of scenarios and situations. That is why, ideally, women and men should be able to partner well together. Beats the fuck out of me why we don’t.

we did partner well, very long ago. it was a symbiotic relationship. everything has changed and it is a divided and fear based culture.

women assume men are out to harm them. men assume women will make allegations. both are valid but also extremes that are compounded by ideology, the legal system(both criminal and family).

a system that is not equal and heavily weighted in favour of women.

theres is no going back. the west will continue to self destruct and the divide will continue. the passport bro phenomenon will grow for those who can live that life. wonderful thing about men is that we are very logical and problem solve. if you cant find what you want here they will somewhere else that fulfills their needs.

 

[leshdrec]

I gave birth to a 9mm kidney stone 20 years ago. And my dickhole is a lot smaller than a vagina, though I didn't need an episiotomy to pass it. (Btw Morphine is very over-rated!)

That said I was present at the birth of my son, watching his head crowning. It seemed tougher for my wife.

Also hard to imagine myself having a monthly menstrual period, and going golfing with cramps and blood dripping from my dick...

Lol you realize women do not pee through their vaginas, and also have a pee-hole about the same size as a man's? A woman can also get a kidney stone.

 

[xmontrealer]

Lol you realize women do not pee through their vaginas, and also have a pee-hole about the same size as a man's? A woman can also get a kidney stone.

I was comparing the vaginal birth of a baby to my delivering a kidney stone though my dick. But thanks for the needless clarification...

 

[kittykellykat]

I have a lot of strong opinions about stuff related to this topic.

Men have it much, much harder ~pre-early thirties. After that point, the tables start to turn and their dating pool opens up immensely as they start to earn more income, and imo, become sexier and stop looking and acting like boys.

When men hit that mark, the corresponding average woman’s dating pool will dry up into a near desert. After that, women have it much, much harder. RIP.

God always balances the scales, haha. It’s beautiful in a way, no? Natural law.

Aaaaalll the more reason for women to appreciate men before it’s too late!

Just some words of wisdom to some of you green industry girls: drop your self-entitled radfem girlboss attitudes while you can, and learn to genuinely appreciate men and everything they provide for us, that we can’t do ourselves. Fight war. Kill bear. Grill meat. Give baby. Build big house. Look around. Every single floor, wall and ceiling that surrounds you, every step of pavement that your feet touch — ALL PROVIDED BY MEN. The list goes on.

I have seen women maintain an immature bratty attitude longer than they should, and it always ends up very poorly (even for women who are faaaar younger than me lol).

Tldr; men ripen and women expire.

For many women your due date may come more quickly than others, and often, much more quickly than you expect. Take nothing for granted. Lol.

For younger men who feel absolutely hopeless when it comes to women, work on yourself while you are young, and I promise you, it will get better. Don’t keep that chip on your shoulder when you enter your Golden Age (35-45). It is a terrible waste of life and of your masculinity.

Such is life. It’s fair, tbh. In the grand scheme of things, nobody truly has reason to complain. It is appropriately balanced.

 

[new1228]

Men.

Men are born with zero value.
Woman are born with value.

 

[kittykellykat]

Men.

Men are born with zero value.
Woman are born with value.

Based. It’s funny how counterintuitive yet true that is. We always assume and actually see sons as being more valuable in probably every culture in existence. But de facto, women definitely have to do less at first, and are treated as more “precious”.

I like how you made that invisible truth so clear and concise

Not saying those attitudes are wrong, only that they are not properly recognized with our libcucked Western ideologies postmodernity.

 

[stinkynuts]

I have a lot of strong opinions about stuff related to this topic.

Men have it much, much harder ~pre-early thirties. After that point, the tables start to turn and their dating pool opens up immensely as they start to earn more income, and imo, become sexier and stop looking like boys.

When men hit that mark, the corresponding average woman’s dating pool will dry up into a near desert. After that, women have it much, much harder. RIP.

God always balances the scales, haha. It’s beautiful in a way, no? Natural law.

Aaaaalll the more reason for women to appreciate men before it’s too late!

Just some words of wisdom to some of you green industry girls: drop your self-entitled radfem girlboss attitudes while you can, and learn to genuinely appreciate men and everything they provide for us, that we can’t do ourselves. Fight war. Kill bear. Grill meat. Give baby. Build big house. Look around. Every single floor, wall and ceiling that surrounds you, every step of pavement that your feet touch — ALL PROVIDED BY MEN. The list goes on.

I have seen women maintain an immature bratty attitude longer than they should, and it always ends up very poorly (even for women who are faaaar younger than me lol).

Tldr; men ripen and women expire.

For many women your due date may come more quickly than others, and often, much more quickly than you expect. Take nothing for granted. Lol.

For younger men who feel absolutely hopeless when it comes to women, work on yourself while you are young, and I promise you, it will get better. Don’t keep that chip on your shoulder when you enter your Golden Age. It is a terrible waste of life and of your masculinity.

Such is life. It’s fair, tbh. In the grand scheme of things, nobody truly has reason to complain. It is appropriately balanced.

I agree, but there are some twists to your thesis.

First, ugly girls have it the worst their entire lives. When they are young, they are ostracized by their fellows girls, shunned by boys, overlooked in employment (cannot be front desk, air hostess, work at a cosmetics store, become waitress, bartender, hostesss, news anchor, journalist, etc.). They don't have the ability to attract a high-quality mate, and if they do get married, it will not be an easy marriage. So ugly women have it extremely hard their entire lives. They may end up dying alone, or become that crazy cat lady.

The flip side is short men like myself. They will not be taken as seriously and respected. However, we can compensate to some degree through our achievments and earnings. A 5'5" man can still be attractive if he works super hard and becomes a surgeon and a millionaire. This just doesn't work for an ugly woman.

A beautiful girl has it the easiest in the beginning. She is well-liked by her teachers and is popular with lots of friends. Boys will do anyting for her, and she will have a great social life and her pick of the highest quality men. However, if she let's this go to her head and becomes an entitled brat, and does not marry, it's downhill from there. Soon, her looks will fade, and her ugly personality will dominate. She will become a Karen.

Men typically become more desirable the more money and prestige he has, which takes time.

So, what you said is true: Men ripen, women expire.

 

[kittykellykat]

I agree, but there are some twists to your thesis.

First, ugly girls have it the worst. When they are young, they are ostracized by their fellows girls, shunned by boys, overlooked in employment (cannot be front desk, air hostess, work at a cosmetics store, become waitress, bartender, hostesss, etc.). They have the ability to attract a less high-quality mate, and if they do get married, it will not be an easy marriage. So ugly women have it extremely hard their entire lives.

The flip side is short men like myself. They will not be taken as seriously and respected. However, we can compensate to some degree through our achievments and earnings. A 5'5" man can still be attractive if he works super hard and becomes a surgeon and a millionaire. This just doesn't work for an ugly woman.

A beautiful girl has it the easiest in the beginning. She is well-liked by her teachers and is popular with lots of friends. Boys will do anyting for her, and she will have a great social life and her pick of the highest quality men. However, if she let's this go to her head and becomes an entitled brat, and does not marry, it's downhill from there. Soon, her looks will fade, and her ugly personality will dominate. She will become a Karen.

Men typically become more desirable the more money and prestige he has, which takes time.

So, what you said is true: Men ripen, women expire.

You ignored a factor that is absolutely critical for men to ripen into desirable. Short or ugly or poor or whatever. Developing charisma. It is soooo important. Then you become a Certified Short King.

Then also, the financial/status/material/physical requirements are somewhat lessened. I feel like men these days worry a tad too much about money and muscles and not enough about developing charisma and a certain…idk, masculine vitality in their personalities. Charisma, spontaneity, and a fantastic sense of humour will make most panties drop. Guaranteed. A LOT of men think peak masculinity is LARPing some domineering skullcracking emotionless bossy man. It is so shallow and lacking in charisma. Honestly. It’s so common these days and I’m always unimpressed by it.

Re. Money… You might snag some attractive girl if you are rich, and you might stay together for pragmatic reasons, but does she actually LIKE you? Do you even like her? If you develop charisma, not only can you gauge these things better (because EQ and charisma go hand in hand), you can actually snag a quality woman who is right for you, long term, who will stay with you even if times become financially difficult. (How do you think pimps get girls to consent to give them money lol? Most of them are charismatic.)

I have dated men who lacked money, men who lacked height, men who lacked kindness, men who even kind of lacked intelligence . Never once did I date a man who could not make me laugh, and never once did I date a man who lacked charisma. I just am viscerally disinterested, if a man lacks those things. The rest of the criteria are secondary and flexible tbh.

You ever hear girls say a guy is “ugly hot”? Usually that guy is just objectively ugly. But, he has charisma. So you get that elusive “I don’t get why you are hot” effect. It’s almost more attractive that way, to me, personally.

Also when men begin to earn more, they become more confident, which automatically adds to their charisma. So it’s not really just money. Even the most incorrigible golddigger will be a sucker for charisma over money. Trust me.

 

[kittykellykat]

Re. Ugly women….Idk. RIP.

Tbf tho, even morbidly obese women get laid and reproduce. I seent it on Maury, so it must be true!

 

[stinkynuts]

You ignored a factor that is absolutely critical for men to ripen into desirable. Short or ugly or poor or whatever. Developing charisma. It is soooo important. Then you become a Certified Short King.

Then also, the financial/status/material/physical requirements are somewhat lessened. I feel like men these days worry a tad too much about money and muscles and not enough about developing charisma and a certain…idk, masculine vitality in their personalities. Charisma, spontaneity, and a fantastic sense of humour will make most panties drop. Guaranteed. A LOT of men think peak masculinity is LARPing some domineering skullcracking emotionless bossy man. It is so shallow and lacking in charisma. Honestly. It’s so common these days and I’m always unimpressed by it.

Re. Money… You might snag some attractive girl if you are rich, and you might stay together for pragmatic reasons, but does she actually LIKE you? Do you even like her? If you develop charisma, not only can you gauge these things better (because EQ and charisma go hand in hand), you can actually snag a quality woman who is right for you, long term, who will stay with you even if times become financially difficult. (How do you think pimps get girls to consent to give them money lol? Most of them are charismatic.)

I have dated men who lacked money, men who lacked height, men who lacked kindness, men who even kind of lacked intelligence . Never once did I date a man who could not make me laugh, and never once did I date a man who lacked charisma. I just am viscerally disinterested, if a man lacks those things. The rest of the criteria are secondary and flexible tbh.

You ever hear girls say a guy is “ugly hot”? Usually that guy is just objectively ugly. But, he has charisma. So you get that elusive “I don’t get why you are hot” effect. It’s almost more attractive that way, to me, personally.

Also when men begin to earn more, they become more confident, which automatically adds to their charisma. So it’s not really just money. Even the most incorrigible golddigger will be a sucker for charisma over money. Trust me.

True, confidence anad charisma is important. However, if a man doesn't have any underlying qualities that justify his confidence and charisma, it is a fake confidence/charsima. Kind of like a used car salesman.

As you said, often the confidence and charisma develops as one gains value (they become wealthy for men). Women know how attractive they are, and a women is pretty will usuallly have genuine confidence as well.

A multimillionaire who is secure with himself may have a quiet confidence. He doesn't need to show off, and doesn't care what others think. No need to parade around in a lamborghinin and wear a fancy suit. Those are just costumes and will attract gold diggers.

 

[Soccersweeper]

You ignored a factor that is absolutely critical for men to ripen into desirable. Short or ugly or poor or whatever. Developing charisma. It is soooo important. Then you become a Certified Short King.

Then also, the financial/status/material/physical requirements are somewhat lessened. I feel like men these days worry a tad too much about money and muscles and not enough about developing charisma and a certain…idk, masculine vitality in their personalities. Charisma, spontaneity, and a fantastic sense of humour will make most panties drop. Guaranteed. A LOT of men think peak masculinity is LARPing some domineering skullcracking emotionless bossy man. It is so shallow and lacking in charisma. Honestly. It’s so common these days and I’m always unimpressed by it.

Re. Money… You might snag some attractive girl if you are rich, and you might stay together for pragmatic reasons, but does she actually LIKE you? Do you even like her? If you develop charisma, not only can you gauge these things better (because EQ and charisma go hand in hand), you can actually snag a quality woman who is right for you, long term, who will stay with you even if times become financially difficult. (How do you think pimps get girls to consent to give them money lol? Most of them are charismatic.)

I have dated men who lacked money, men who lacked height, men who lacked kindness, men who even kind of lacked intelligence . Never once did I date a man who could not make me laugh, and never once did I date a man who lacked charisma. I just am viscerally disinterested, if a man lacks those things. The rest of the criteria are secondary and flexible tbh.

You ever hear girls say a guy is “ugly hot”? Usually that guy is just objectively ugly. But, he has charisma. So you get that elusive “I don’t get why you are hot” effect. It’s almost more attractive that way, to me, personally.

Also when men begin to earn more, they become more confident, which automatically adds to their charisma. So it’s not really just money. Even the most incorrigible golddigger will be a sucker for charisma over money. Trust me.

Very true. Best advice I ever received was "win her mind and her body will follow".

 

[new1228]

Based. It’s funny how counterintuitive yet true that is. We always assume and actually see sons as being more valuable in probably every culture in existence. But de facto, women definitely have to do less at first, and are treated as more “precious”.

I like how you made that invisible truth so clear and concise

Not saying those attitudes are wrong, only that they are not properly recognized with our libcucked Western ideologies postmodernity.

Women get invited to a Yatch Party because she is beautiful. A man needs to buy it.. He doesnt get invited to any yatch party...

Men has to create value for himself. If not the world will treat him garbage.

But one thing**
The more a man get experience the more he becomes valuable.. opposite when it comes to women. This is why women like scars in man and not the opposite for us..

Women sells Purity** Men sell success. This is why Young SPs will always be replace by the younger ones** nothing against anybody but this is facts