Belief in God

[jcpro]

JC isn't gay but his paid trans boyfriend is

You're quite the homophobe, eh?

 

[NotADcotor]

Apparently "God" was arrested.

Not Lemmy or His trinity, of course not, I mean that fake bible bullshit.

 

[mandrill]

The concept of god was invented thousands of years ago so that people could explain what they didn't understand. As science progressed and continues to do so, we can almost find an explanation for everything, thus, as someone said, the concept of god will be non existent in a couple of generations.

Unless someone discovers that the existence of the universe and the concepts of time and space are predicated on the existence of an abstract will which has independent existence outside of time and space.

But that's probably not the solution to the question of why and how the universe exists.

 

[mandrill]

Of course, some alternatives to the Abramaic god are quite interesting.

The problem is that most worshippers of Odin these days wear Nazi tattoos.

 

[krealtarron]

The concept of god was invented thousands of years ago so that people could explain what they didn't understand. As science progressed and continues to do so, we can almost find an explanation for everything, thus, as someone said, the concept of god will be non existent in a couple of generations.

I dont think so. Belief in God is not just to explain things you dont understand but also sentimental and spiritual. There may be a different concept of what God means in the future, but fundamentally humans are sentimental creatures and therefore something like the concept of a God will always persist in one form or another.

Also don't forget how religion and God can unite people and help set values in society.

 

[jcpro]

A lot of people want to talk about the proof of existence of the deity. I'm not sure I'm interested in that argument. In the past we didn't have the proof of many things. That didn't mean that they didn't exist.

 

[y2kmark]

Don't be ridiculous, if JC were a Dino he'd be Deplodocus, then he could be real loose like a long necked goose.

If that's what you like...

 

[danmand]

A lot of people want to talk about the proof of existence of the deity. I'm not sure I'm interested in that argument. In the past we didn't have the proof of many things. That didn't mean that they didn't exist.

I think about this differently.

Deities exist because people believe they exist.

We will never, at least not in any of our lifetimes, be able to understand how and why the Universe we live in was created. Hence it makes as much sense as anything, at least for lay people, to assign the why and how to a deity.

Some will see the deity as an old white male, others will see a pregnant women, others a force, etc etc.

 

[oil&gas]

I think about this differently.

Deities exist because people believe they exist.

We will never, at least not in any of our lifetimes, be able to understand how and why the Universe we live in was created. Hence it makes as much sense as anything, at least for lay people, to assign the why and how to a deity.

Just accept the law of conservation of energy and mass then you can understand
creation does not have to be a prerequisite to existence of the universe. Energy/matter
can neither be destroyed or created. At time zero energy, space and matter were squeezed
into an infinitely small point. By the end of time the death of the universe will bring space
expansion to the end. All matter and energy by then will be dissipated and disintegrated.

Some will see the deity as an old white male, others will see a pregnant women, others a force, etc etc.

 

[danmand]

Just accept the law of conservation of energy and mass then you can understand
creation does not have to be a prerequisite to existence of the universe. Energy/matter
can neither be destroyed or created. At time zero energy, space and matter were squeezed
into an infinitely small point. By the end of time the death of the universe will bring space
expansion to the end. All matter and energy by then will be dissipated and disintegrated.

Nah, that does not explain the why and how.

I am well educated in Chemistry and Physics, including and in particular Physical Chemistry.

 

[jcpro]

I think about this differently.

Deities exist because people believe they exist.

We will never, at least not in any of our lifetimes, be able to understand how and why the Universe we live in was created. Hence it makes as much sense as anything, at least for lay people, to assign the why and how to a deity.

Some will see the deity as an old white male, others will see a pregnant women, others a force, etc etc.

Maybe the Universe has always been. Maybe we're just microbes on a very large dog.

 

[mjg1]

Of course, some alternatives to the Abramaic god are quite interesting.

The problem is that most worshippers of Odin these days wear Nazi tattoos.

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That's true, some white-nationalist are rejecting Christianity for pure white Nordic gods/religion. I think these racist tend to be even more violent and mostly located in the Pacific Northwest.

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