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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

basketcase

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Are you seriously asking us to privilege Israeli civilians over Palestinians civilians? Have you given up all pretense of hiding your racism?
WTF are you talking about?

Your concerns might be listened to if you hadn't celebrated the shooting of Jewish civilians.
 

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You’d be advised to revisit that statement. Neither Amnesty nor B’Tselem consider illegal combatants civilians.
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You'd be advised to stop claiming that random Jews being in the West Bank makes them combatants simply because a small number of other Jews engage in violence. The terms collective punishment comes to mind. So does the asinine double standard because you don't think some Palestinians being illegal combatants makes all Palestinians fair game.
 

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The zionist movement you back is a movement based on racial supremacy and 19th century colonialism.
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As opposed to the numerous Palestinian factions you back based on religious supremacy of Muslims and a desire to remove Jews from the region.

And just like the KKK, a good part of Palestinian violence is from factions openly admitting they do it simply because they don't want to live alongside Jews.
 

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You keep acting like you're surprised that Palestinians turn to violence ...
Are you unwilling to criticize the 61% of Palestinians who support attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel or the 54% of Palestinians think the best way forward is armed violence because:
a) You want to see Israel destroyed or,
b) You think Palestinians are incapable of moral choices?

Why don't you join me in calling on both sides to engage in peaceful negotiations instead of continually justifying Palestinians using violence as a solution?


p.s. I see you ran away like a fraud when confronted with the actual opinions of Palestinians.
 
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Yes, Israel and its government is filled with people who believe the ideology of Kahane's teachings.
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More of your bullshit. A very small part of Israel support Kahane's ideology. Ben Gvir's party received less then 5% of the vote. A very small part of the government support those ideas. Ben Gvir's party holds 6 of the 120 seats.

Meanwhile the Palestinian authority is full of people who believe that Israel shouldn't exist and Hamas is actively engaged in trying to kill off Jews. Strange that you never say a critical word about them. What percent of Palestinians voted for Hamas last time they chose to hold an election?
 

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Yes, Israel and its government is filled with people who believe the ideology of Kahane's teachings.
You can see that when 'random Jews' go out to worship peacefully, as you like to say.

Unclear at the reason they went in (reports say that attacks were planned on Jews visiting Temple Mount) but it is worth mentioning that the UN also condemned alleged worshipers stockpiling rocks and explosives in the mosque.


And I'm sure you will also condemn the 20 or so indiscriminate rockets fired from Gaza. Oh wait, no matter what the UN or Amnesty say, you'll claim that rockets fired at an Israeli city are self defence.
 

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The US Department of Education Office of Civil Rights (OCR) has opened an investigation into George Washington University to determine whether administrators allowed a professor to discriminate against Jewish students.

In January, StandWithUs, an educational nonprofit, filed a civil rights complaint alleging that the university would not intervene when Psychology Professor Lara Sheehi, who teaches a mandatory diversity course, invited an antisemitic speaker to address her class, launched a smear campaign against Jewish students, and later filed disciplinary charges against them in retaliation for their accusing her of antisemitism.


“We thank OCR for opening a full investigation into our complaint against GW and sending the clear message that whatever the bounds of academic freedom may be, they do not extend to professors mistreating and retaliating against students based on their Jewish and Israeli identities under the guise of political expression,” StandWithUs legal department director Yael Lerman said on Tuesday.

According to the complaint, Sheehi expressed contempt for Jews on the first day of class, when, in August, she asked every student to share information about their backgrounds and cultures. Replying to a student who revealed that she is Israeli, Sheehi said, “It’s not your fault you were born in Israel.” The students claim they made several attempts to persuade the university to correct Sheehi’s behavior or arrange an alternative option for fulfilling the requirements of her course. Each time, StandWithUs alleged, administrators said nothing could be done.

US Government Investigating George Washington University for Alleged Antisemitic Discrimination - Algemeiner.com


pro-palestine movement=anti-jewish hatred
 

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Words have meaning. You can't have a system or legal discrimination based on race when 20% of the country is that same race yet have those rights.
Covered in all of those reports.
They all detail three different levels of apartheid, from 'Israeli Arabs', to those living in Jerusalem and then again to those living in the Occupied Territories of Palestine.
All different forms of apartheid.

Those words have meaning and they are at the ICC.
 

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As opposed to the numerous Palestinian factions you back based on religious supremacy of Muslims and a desire to remove Jews from the region.

And just like the KKK, a good part of Palestinian violence is from factions openly admitting they do it simply because they don't want to live alongside Jews.
More anti Palestinian racism from you basketcase.
First you claim that Israeli Arabs live in a democracy then you say they are all genocidal as well.
 

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More of your bullshit. A very small part of Israel support Kahane's ideology. Ben Gvir's party received less then 5% of the vote. A very small part of the government support those ideas. Ben Gvir's party holds 6 of the 120 seats.

Meanwhile the Palestinian authority is full of people who believe that Israel shouldn't exist and Hamas is actively engaged in trying to kill off Jews. Strange that you never say a critical word about them. What percent of Palestinians voted for Hamas last time they chose to hold an election?
They are part of the ruling coalition, the party voted into power.
This is what you wanted and this is what you've got.

Now you're losing the liberal party as well.
Congrats.

 

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Are you unwilling to criticize the 61% of Palestinians who support attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel or the 54% of Palestinians think the best way forward is armed violence because:
a) You want to see Israel destroyed or,
b) You think Palestinians are incapable of moral choices?

Why don't you join me in calling on both sides to engage in peaceful negotiations instead of continually justifying Palestinians using violence as a solution?


p.s. I see you ran away like a fraud when confronted with the actual opinions of Palestinians.
Palestinians have the right to self defence against settler terrorists and the occupying army.
I support peaceful change through BDS.

If you want the violence to end you need to be part of the solution instead of spouting racist hate and defending Israeli apartheid and violence.
 

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Both Jews and Muslims are indulging in tribal sectarian violence and they use their primitive religions to justify their inhumanity.
 

Frankfooter

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Both Jews and Muslims are indulging in tribal sectarian violence and they use their primitive religions to justify their inhumanity.
True, but one side is also clearly the aggressor and colonizer. Both sides are not equal in responsibility.
Israel raided the Al Aqsa for the second day in a row.


Condemned by Canada and the Arab League.

Jordan, who are the administrators of Al Aqsa called this 'state terrorism'.

Two days of raids on Al Aqsa has also resulted in missiles now fired from Gaza and Lebanon in response.
Israel is clearly the aggressor here.

 

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True, but one side is also clearly the aggressor and colonizer. Both sides are not equal in responsibility.
Israel raided the Al Aqsa for the second day in a row.


Condemned by Canada and the Arab League.

Jordan, who are the administrators of Al Aqsa called this 'state terrorism'.

Two days of raids on Al Aqsa has also resulted in missiles now fired from Gaza and Lebanon in response.
Israel is clearly the aggressor here.

I find this shocking. The images of soldiers desecrating a holy sanctuary with out of control violence is beyond belief. If this had been a synagogue the hue and cry would’ve been overwhelming.
 

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Covered in all of those reports.
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Ah, making up a new definition for words because you think emotional appeal will cover for your absolutely disastrous moral standard.


More anti Palestinian racism from you basketcase.
First you claim that Israeli Arabs live in a democracy then you say they are all genocidal as well.
Another pathetic deflection. I know you don't feel Palestinians are worth listening to or deserving criticism but factions like Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, and Al Aqsa's are very clear in their intent.

Palestinians have the right to self defence against settler terrorists and the occupying army.
I support peaceful change through BDS.

If you want the violence to end you need to be part of the solution instead of spouting racist hate and defending Israeli apartheid and violence.
And back to defending terrorism. It's amazing that you claim to support groups like Amnesty and B'Tselem while claiming that shooting random Jews and launching indiscriminate rockets is self defence.

You happy that Hamas (or Hezbollah) are trying to start another war in Lebanon?
 

Frankfooter

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Ah, making up a new definition for words because you think emotional appeal will cover for your absolutely disastrous moral standard.
Take it to the ICC, the next round of debates about Israeli apartheid will happen there.
Israel is apartheid according to the UN, Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem, 25% of US Jews and 45% of those living under Israeli rule.




Another pathetic deflection. I know you don't feel Palestinians are worth listening to or deserving criticism but factions like Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, and Al Aqsa's are very clear in their intent.


And back to defending terrorism. It's amazing that you claim to support groups like Amnesty and B'Tselem while claiming that shooting random Jews and launching indiscriminate rockets is self defence.

You happy that Hamas (or Hezbollah) are trying to start another war in Lebanon?
Is this the work of those 'random Jews' you keep talking about?

Or are these the 'random Jews'?
 
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