Its offical : Transphobia is here to stay!

[silentkisser]

Guns used in mass shootings U.S. 2024| Statista

Handguns are the most common weapons used in mass shootings in the United States. Other types of guns used in mass shootings include rifles and shotguns.

www.statista.com

Yes, you are correct. Most mass shootings use handguns. However....the deadliest shootings use rifles like the AR-15. The difference between being shot by a 9mm bullet from a Glock compared to the usual .223 round used in an AR-15 is night and day. Yes, the handgun bullet is larger...but it doesn't have the same amount of propulsion in the cartridge. The AR bullet goes like three times the speed and causes incredible damage when it strikes the body. It tumbles inside destroying organs and blood vessels, leaving massive exit wounds. When the rifle was being developed in the early days of the Vietnam war, there were reports of a VC solider getting hit in the butt, and bleeding to death really quickly due to the massive and traumatic damage it did to his body.

The rapper 50 Cent famously got show like 9 times and survived. He was hit by a handgun. Yes, it did permanent damage to him, but it was no way comparable to taking one round from a high powered rifle.

The Washington Post just did a whole thing on the damaging power and difference between these types of firearms, showing exactly what the AR-15 does to victims:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

Eliminating AR-15s would not stop mass shootings. However, it would likely make them less deadly...

 

[jcpro]

Yes, you are correct. Most mass shootings use handguns. However....the deadliest shootings use rifles like the AR-15. The difference between being shot by a 9mm bullet from a Glock compared to the usual .223 round used in an AR-15 is night and day. Yes, the handgun bullet is larger...but it doesn't have the same amount of propulsion in the cartridge. The AR bullet goes like three times the speed and causes incredible damage when it strikes the body. It tumbles inside destroying organs and blood vessels, leaving massive exit wounds. When the rifle was being developed in the early days of the Vietnam war, there were reports of a VC solider getting hit in the butt, and bleeding to death really quickly due to the massive and traumatic damage it did to his body.

The rapper 50 Cent famously got show like 9 times and survived. He was hit by a handgun. Yes, it did permanent damage to him, but it was no way comparable to taking one round from a high powered rifle.

The Washington Post just did a whole thing on the damaging power and difference between these types of firearms, showing exactly what the AR-15 does to victims:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

Eliminating AR-15s would not stop mass shootings. However, it would likely make them less deadly...

The trans murderer managed to kill 6 people with a 9mm rounds just fine. No AR needed; as did the Virginia Tech shooter who murdered 32 people with a couple of hand guns.

 

[krealtarron]

The trans murderer managed to kill 6 people with a 9mm rounds just fine. No AR needed; as did the Virginia Tech shooter who murdered 32 people with a couple of hand guns.

Why the argument? All guns regardless of type or caliber need to be banned and confiscated. Guns belong at the hands of law enforcement and the military, not civilians. The only guns people should be allowed to have are a few hunting rifles and even in those cases the number of rounds you are allowed to buy should be tracked and restricted.

 

[jcpro]

Why the argument? All guns regardless of type or caliber need to be banned and confiscated. Guns belong at the hands of law enforcement and the military, not civilians. The only guns people should be allowed to have are a few hunting rifles and even in those cases the number of rounds you are allowed to buy should be tracked and restricted.

OK, I told you people how to accomplish that. Instead most want to use the gun matter like the abortion- a political wedge issue.

 

[krealtarron]

OK, I told you people how to accomplish that. Instead most want to use the gun matter like the abortion- a political wedge issue.

That is neither here nor there. We all know how that needs to be accomplished and we all know none of us can do anything about it. But if we are debating that issue, then what is your position on that? Do you support banning guns or not?

 

[jcpro]

That is neither here nor there. We all know how that needs to be accomplished and we all know none of us can do anything about it. But if we are debating that issue, then what is your position on that? Do you support banning guns or not?

I am Canadian. Sensible gun laws are not a bad thing.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Why the argument? All guns regardless of type or caliber need to be banned and confiscated. Guns belong at the hands of law enforcement and the military, not civilians. The only guns people should be allowed to have are a few hunting rifles and even in those cases the number of rounds you are allowed to buy should be tracked and restricted.

The founders of the US led a revolution to oust an oppressive colonial power who boasted the best army and navy in the world at the time, and designed a framework for a society that has been the most successful economy in the world, and a beacon for democracy for over 200 years. Those founders believed that the fundamental freedoms needed to achieve that goal included the right of the citizenry to bear arms.

Your credentials for social engineering are?

I think the US founding fathers have proved they knew what they were doing. You, not so much.

 

[krealtarron]

The founders of the US led a revolution to oust an oppressive colonial power who boasted the best army and navy in the world at the time, and designed a framework for a society that has been the most successful economy in the world, and a beacon for democracy for over 200 years. Those founders believed that the fundamental freedoms needed to achieve that goal included the right of the citizenry to bear arms.

Irrelevant today.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Irrelevant today.

I'm tingling with excitement to see the Brave New World you're concocting at your keyboard. So modern!

 

[krealtarron]

I'm tingling with excitement to see the Brave New World you're concocting at your keyboard. So modern!

Tingle away. And while you are tingling away, put some thought into the regressive shit hole of a society you are proposing where kids get gunned down in schools. Through legally purchased firearms if I might add. So modern indeed!

But am happy we in Canada atleast have some sane gun laws. Hopefully we confiscate all weapons that dont belong in civilized society in the future.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Tingle away. And while you are tingling away, put some thought into the regressive shit hole of a society you are proposing where kids get gunned down in schools. Through legally purchased firearms if I might add. So modern indeed!

But am happy we in Canada atleast have some sane gun laws. Hopefully we confiscate all weapons that dont belong in civilized society in the future.

There is no Canada without the success of the US society. Stop trying to kill the golden goose.

 

[krealtarron]

There is no Canada without the success of the US society. Stop trying to kill the golden goose.

The US will do just fine without guns in Canada. Heck the US will do even better itself, without any guns at all.

 

[Dutch Oven]

The US will do just fine without guns in Canada. Heck the US will do even better itself, without any guns at all.

A de-fanged US society will have you speaking Russian or Cantonese in no time flat. Do have Rosetta Stone on your computer?

 

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1641816203751555080

Good thing there is a society that's a perfect role model for trans phobic right wingers these days.

‘Born out of hatred’: New Uganda bill terrifies LGBTQ community
The proposed legislation to criminalise identifying as LGBTQ is already making life harder for sexual minorities in Uganda.

 

[krealtarron]

A de-fanged US society will have you speaking Russian or Cantonese in no time flat. Do have Rosetta Stone on your computer?

Utter Nonsense. Those dead children are not able to even speak English!

 

[Dutch Oven]

Utter Nonsense. Those dead children are not able to even speak English!

Maybe a visual aid will help. See below. Hint - Canada is the bird, and the US is the crocodile:

 

[Valcazar]

Guns used in mass shootings U.S. 2024| Statista

Handguns are the most common weapons used in mass shootings in the United States. Other types of guns used in mass shootings include rifles and shotguns.

www.statista.com

Nice work.

Now do shootings after the assault weapon ban was lifted.
I suspect it is still slightly in favor of handguns, but probably much closer, and even a cursory glance can see the modern trend towards semi-automatic rifles.

US mass shootings, 1982–2024: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

 

[Valcazar]

lol this is so fundamentally dumb

It is, but I like how it implies that mitchell himself doesn't believe there is an "anti-Christian manifesto" or whatever their storyline is, and that whole nonsense is just something the deep state is making up.

 

[Leimonis]

It is, but I like how it implies that mitchell himself doesn't believe there is an "anti-Christian manifesto" or whatever their storyline is, and that whole nonsense is just something the deep state is making up.

just imagine what it would take to fabricate and plant a manifesto and the sheer number of people that would have to be involved in such a project. Risking their freedom and pensions. I can't even.

How people who believe those things know how to wipe their ass, that's what I want to know.

 

[Valcazar]

This is from Ray Blanchard, Researcher in sexual orientation, paraphilias, & gender identity disorders, University of Toronto.

Holy shit!
Someone is taking Ray Blanchard seriously in 2023?
Fucking unreal.