My latest experience in Toronto: reasonably hot SBs are looking for 500-1000 for a few hours. For 400 they are not particularly hot and/or going through a dry streak or somehow are down on their luck at the moment. For 300 you are REALLY taking advantage as in: as soon as they find the next daddy chances are they will look back and hate you and themselves.
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Exactly they will eventually meet one that pays more and forget about the cheaper one.
Seems like its cool to wear stinginess as a badge of honor. Its the same ones complaining about getting ripped off, catfished, robbed etc after finding a $300/hr girl on ll
I'm not sure "stinginess" is the right word.
I prefer the term "value" ..... haha.
Sure the girl asking for $1,000 may be hot.
But I would prefer a girl at $400 who is still very attractive and is enthusiastic about the experience. To me, this is the key difference with an SP. Hopefully, you can find an SB who genuinely enjoys your company and it's fun both of you.
I prefer the term "value" ..... haha.
Sure the girl asking for $1,000 may be hot.
But I would prefer a girl at $400 who is still very attractive and is enthusiastic about the experience. To me, this is the key difference with an SP. Hopefully, you can find an SB who genuinely enjoys your company and it's fun both of you.
You don't appear to be a nin-cow-poop or an ultra maroon either
I've been off and on Seeking since 2015. I found Sugaring one night after I realized I preferred a more FWB/Casual Dating dynamic vs escorts.
Some of the pros of sugar(at least in the US since escorting is illegal) - Sugar was and still is a legal grey area, at long as you keep your communication on point it would be hard to prosecute for sex crimes. Low volume, sugar babies typically only have time for one relationship so more likely than not you'll get exclusivity. Absolutely no clock watching, if they clock watch then they're not a sugar baby. The typical sugar date for me lasts anywhere from 2 to 4 hours, date+intimacy at typically the same rates as escorts.
Cons: Time investment is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to much compared to setting up an appt with an escort. If I didn't have ADD I don't think I could keep up with the amount of effort that's required to generate a potential sugar match. This alone is enough to question is the pros I listed above is worth it or not. Especially in Canada. Then if you don't follow a specific protocol when setting up a new relationship then you "could" get scammed out of a few hundred but if you do your due diligence then this will never happen.
I would like to add I'm currently seeing one "sugar baby" for a few months now but I'm pretty sure this one is an escort and sees other people which is why I'm ending and in the process of setting up a new relationship.
Hope this helps someone.
Some of the pros of sugar(at least in the US since escorting is illegal) - Sugar was and still is a legal grey area, at long as you keep your communication on point it would be hard to prosecute for sex crimes. Low volume, sugar babies typically only have time for one relationship so more likely than not you'll get exclusivity. Absolutely no clock watching, if they clock watch then they're not a sugar baby. The typical sugar date for me lasts anywhere from 2 to 4 hours, date+intimacy at typically the same rates as escorts.
Cons: Time investment is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to much compared to setting up an appt with an escort. If I didn't have ADD I don't think I could keep up with the amount of effort that's required to generate a potential sugar match. This alone is enough to question is the pros I listed above is worth it or not. Especially in Canada. Then if you don't follow a specific protocol when setting up a new relationship then you "could" get scammed out of a few hundred but if you do your due diligence then this will never happen.
I would like to add I'm currently seeing one "sugar baby" for a few months now but I'm pretty sure this one is an escort and sees other people which is why I'm ending and in the process of setting up a new relationship.
Hope this helps someone.
So a few days ago I signed up on SA to give it a go.
It's definitely a bit of a numbers game. Reminds me a bit of my first few times with SPs. My first SP was off of ll. A 19 year old girl who barely spoke English. It was okay but the apartment smelled like weed and the bed was the squeakiest bed ever. Plus she wore a mask...CBJ. And she kept chanting. I felt like I had stepped into some chamber in Diablo II. It was a good first time.
Second time was not much better but I did more due diligence and although I would not repeat, there was a lot of improvement. Third time was one of the top 10 agency girls from last year. Good thing because I was about to give up.
And I can see the same thing happening here on SA. Tons of 1-off messages that don't reply back. And lots of girls that go on rants, on their profile that they're not SPs... which makes me think they probably are.
One question I would have for the SA pros here: Eventually you share what you're looking for with a girl. How much do you actually share on the platform? I realize this differs for everyone, but I doubt anyone on this forum is in search of those "platonic only" experiences on SA sites. Something needs to be shared in order to progress to SMS.
It's definitely a bit of a numbers game. Reminds me a bit of my first few times with SPs. My first SP was off of ll. A 19 year old girl who barely spoke English. It was okay but the apartment smelled like weed and the bed was the squeakiest bed ever. Plus she wore a mask...CBJ. And she kept chanting. I felt like I had stepped into some chamber in Diablo II. It was a good first time.
Second time was not much better but I did more due diligence and although I would not repeat, there was a lot of improvement. Third time was one of the top 10 agency girls from last year. Good thing because I was about to give up.
And I can see the same thing happening here on SA. Tons of 1-off messages that don't reply back. And lots of girls that go on rants, on their profile that they're not SPs... which makes me think they probably are.
One question I would have for the SA pros here: Eventually you share what you're looking for with a girl. How much do you actually share on the platform? I realize this differs for everyone, but I doubt anyone on this forum is in search of those "platonic only" experiences on SA sites. Something needs to be shared in order to progress to SMS.
.... ( edited info - perhaps I should negotiate off site . Others have been banned) WhatsYourPrice an associated site is more G rated . Officially on the website blurb , it's more a dating site . A lady complained. I was warned . Never got banned though .
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Seeking will ban you in no time if they become aware of money for sex discussion or mentioning of ppm or anything along those lines.
And it’s damn hard to get back. They ban ip and credit cards and everything else
Holy shit. I was out for lunch with a buddy today and he told me this guy we both know is some YouTube expert on older guys dating younger women. He's from Toronto and has 650k subscribers. So I checked his channel out.
First thing I watched was this and thought it was appropriate for this thread.
First thing I watched was this and thought it was appropriate for this thread.
So maybe the way to go about it is suggest coffee/drinks and go straight to WhatsApp/SMS. I mean, not like the messaging software on SA is that great.
TBH, it's been quite some time since I had any $300 dates, but 3-4 years ago it was not uncommon. It's been $4-500 more recently.
My current limit is $300/meet . I can't host and SBs rarely can . So add no tell motel to the tab - $70 day rate , plus lunch and gifts . I've noticed the SB ask has increased ; ie $1000/ meet from a lesbian "virgin" ..... next . But I only expect 1 SB ongoing from a one month membership and lots more messaging . Long delays in replies and brief responses is a red flag . 7 years ago , I was solo in an office and could host for extended lunches . SBs visited me or if nearby , I would pick up and drop off . It was a beautiful set up . I paid $100 - occasionally $200 . Average @ $140 / meet . Times change .
This month on Seeking , I'm getting messages from "SBs" who have Toronto as a profile location , but after a few messages , give a USA area code #. So the story goes , " they visit Toronto for business " . One SB in particular ,( currently in "Miami" but is flying this week to "LA" - sent a pic of a lady standing in front of a Mercedes 630 Brabus ... Had to look it up - $500,000 EU !) , I get these new age greetings in broken English .
"The day is awaiting you with rich and beautiful blessings. Accept and enjoy them as they come!”
Good morning
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Thinking that things happen first in the mind has its own effect..."
Time wasters and almost certainly a scam . I haven't been asked for money yet , so I don't know where the pay off for them is .
"The day is awaiting you with rich and beautiful blessings. Accept and enjoy them as they come!”
Good morning
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Thinking that things happen first in the mind has its own effect..."
Time wasters and almost certainly a scam . I haven't been asked for money yet , so I don't know where the pay off for them is .
Feel free to PM me, but where are the No-tell motels (aside from Kingston Rd)?
Recent conversation with a lady on Seeking - after I mention recent STI tests and fertility status . " I use condoms for every activity". I asked , " condom for oral ?" Her reply , "yes, until I actually know you"
what a buzz kill .... next
what a buzz kill .... next
Aren’t SBs just as eager as the general population to use condoms for sex? I’d think it’s a given
… or maybe you just mentioned it to get clarification on the BJ
I was on a Meet and Greet from Seeking last week. She was decent looking and reasonably friendly. I was thinking it would be worthwhile taking her for a spin.
After scarfing down a salad, main course, a glass of wine, desert and coffee .... she announced that she didn't think we were a match.
She admitted that she hasn't had a "match" since October when her previous SD split with her.
Apparently, she just likes free dinners.
I can afford to buy dinner but I don't appreciate having my time wasted.
Oh well.
After scarfing down a salad, main course, a glass of wine, desert and coffee .... she announced that she didn't think we were a match.
She admitted that she hasn't had a "match" since October when her previous SD split with her.
Apparently, she just likes free dinners.
I can afford to buy dinner but I don't appreciate having my time wasted.
Oh well.
Classic Crypto scam. Establish a connection with your mark, usually via whatsapp. Multiple texts and photos but never in town to meet. Somewhere in the conversation she will ask for a favour usually some issue with her crypto account, or a variation of it . All you need to do is open your own account. The brokerage is a scam designed to siphon your cash.This month on Seeking , I'm getting messages from "SBs" who have Toronto as a profile location , but after a few messages , give a USA area code #. So the story goes , " they visit Toronto for business " . One SB in particular ,( currently in "Miami" but is flying this week to "LA" - sent a pic of a lady standing in front of a Mercedes 630 Brabus ... Had to look it up - $500,000 EU !) , I get these new age greetings in broken English .
"The day is awaiting you with rich and beautiful blessings. Accept and enjoy them as they come!”
Good morning
....
Thinking that things happen first in the mind has its own effect..."
Time wasters and almost certainly a scam . I haven't been asked for money yet , so I don't know where the pay off for them is .
