Million Immigrants in 2022 - Thanks Fidel

[JohnLarue]

There is definitely a demand for housing, doctors and hospitals. Am sure you are aware of wait times for specialists and housing prices especially in the GTA.

issues which will exacerbated by higher levels of immigration

if the immigrants are doctors / nurses, they should be able to get job offers
if they can not get job offers because of qualification standards, that wont change by admitted them
best to permit the entry of someone who can meet the qualification standards and secure a job offer

doctors and nurses get international opportunities dangled in front of them all the time

 

[bver_hunter]

Have to give Trudeau for achieving this great deal with the Blessing of the USA:

Trudeau, Biden announce immigration agreement

Can you imagine if Pee Pee was in charge how he would have just shut that crossing and no doubt Biden will have then been pissed off and not brokered this great series of favourable trade deals with Canada. Pee Pee is proving to be an empty vessel that just makes the most noise in every aspect of his presence in the House of Commons!!

 

[JohnLarue]

That is a strawman argument. I did not say higher immigration WILL FIX our infrastructure issues. I said immigration drives demand, which corresponding drives supply which is a good thing.

however as i pointed out infrastructure supply has become detached from demand, so immigration levels do not influence supply, higher immigration does increase demand

I do agree that the pace of infrastructure development is slow, and that needs to be fixed. So fix that instead of saying we should slow down immigration as if 490K immigrants are the problem. It does not matter if immigrants who come here do not have a job. They need to show financial proof when applying so they need to come here with some money in their account. A single person I think needs $13,310 minimum and almost everyone comes here with 3 or 4 times that in their accounts. Its not one of those immigrant stories where people say "I came here with $10 in my pocket".

if they arrive with a job offer in place >>> there is no risk and they used their life savings for more than subsistence living

watering down the economic factors in the points system is bad economic policy

If at the end of the day you need someone to pay for infrastructure then it has to be through taxes. Taxes that immigrants will automatically pay when they come here even if they dont have jobs (sales tax etc).,

if they arrive with a job offer in place >>> they contribute even more to govt revenues via income tax and payroll taxes as well as higher sales tax revenue.

i thought you lefties got your panties in a knot about anyone who does not pay their 'fair share' of the tax burden

apparently you are selective about who gets the 'fair share' taxation applied

watering down the economic factors in the points system is bad economic policy

 

[krealtarron]

Hmm all requirements before a job offer is even considered by an employer - go figure
you need to drill down deeper

What? We are talking about immigration and what are the most important factors for immigration.

you are having trouble with math
reducing the value of the economic factor by 92% automatically increases the relative value of the other factors.
it is a pie graph which always adds up to 100%
reduce the size of a slide by 92% and all the other slices get bigger

the only way you get your elusive equality is if the other non-economics factors are also reduced equally by 92%
that would be redundant as all that would be accomplished is the equal rescaling of the points .. number noodling , a pointless exercise

reducing any value by 92% is a step shy of just plain eliminating it
by definition the relative value of the non-economic factors have to have a larger contribution to the final score
it is bad economic policy

Yes you are right on the math.

However, as I said, the most important factor in immigration is NOT the economic factor. The most important factor is the human capital factor. Remember that immigrants are coming here not to pay taxes, but they are coming here to make a life. So the human capital factor is THE MOST important. Age, work experience, language proficiency etc.,

So it makes sense to reduce the points assigned to jobs.

again you confuse yourself
we want immigrants with skill sets to fill in demand positions
if they have those skill sets the job offers are there

if they don't have those skill sets... they will not fill those positions

Correct. And those skill sets fall under human capital factors. That is why jobs had their points reduced.

it is a points based system, the volume of applicants is irrelevant to the applicants point total
you already proved this by declaring your points would be insufficient, without knowing how many applicants there were
were you lying then or lying now?

Yes it is a points based system. But the way it works is that they draw a score every 2 weeks from the pool of applicants remaining. Smaller the pool, faster the score will reduce in subsequent draws. Larger the pool, the lower end will remain where they are.

it worked reasonable well 280k +/- per year before Admen Hussein messed with it.
Lots of immigrant professionals & skill trades who managed just fine under the previous points system
+
if you have marketable skills you can get job offers from all over the world

It is still working that way technically even though they reduced the points to 50 for jobs. The only ones getting picked in the draws are the ones who are already here with jobs. Which is what was happening back in the day as well. That hasn't changed. Also there is no problem with people coming here without jobs. They all get a job within a year.

ah so there you have it
your ideological devotion has led you to think that immigration was too tough, too restrictive and somehow inequitable >>>>>> therefore it must be fixed

So Adman Hussein fixed it for you... by.... (wait for it) ..........watering down the point system

No immigration is tougher NOW. It was easier earlier. Go look at the past express entry draw scores.

Ministerial instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system - Canada.ca

www.canada.ca

Adman lowered the point requirement right? In the link above check the scores that were drawn since 2018. You will see that they continually go up. So yes immigration is tougher now than it was prior to 2018.

 

[krealtarron]

if they arrive with a job offer in place >>> there is no risk and they used their life savings for more than subsistence living

watering down the economic factors in the points system is bad economic policy

There is no job offer possible from outside Canada. There is no risk if they come here without a job. They need to come here with funds anyway. They can come here and get a job within a year. No issues. There is no watering down of anything. Infact they have put their focus on the right things by increasing importance on human capital factors and not on economic factors. Human capital is the most important factor.

if they arrive with a job offer in place >>> they contribute even more to govt revenues via income tax and payroll taxes as well as higher sales tax revenue.

i thought you lefties got your panties in a knot about anyone who does not pay their 'fair share' of the tax burden

apparently you are selective about who gets the 'fair share' taxation applied

watering down the economic factors in the points system is bad economic policy

Nothing has been watered down. It is not possible for immigrants from different parts of the world to get jobs in Canada from outside Canada. That doesn't work. They come here to live their entire lives here so there is no need for them to come here with jobs. They can come here and search for a job and get it within a year or so. Perfectly reasonable and nothing is lost and nothing is watered down here.

 

[JohnLarue]

What? We are talking about immigration and what are the most important factors for immigration.

and the factors you listed are all requirement to secure a job offer

you fail to drill down deeper and connect the dots

An immigrants work experience has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that experience to secure a job offer
An immigrants skill set has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that experience to secure a job offer

Yes you are right on the math.

of coarse I am

However, as I said, the most important factor in immigration is NOT the economic factor. The most important factor is the human capital factor.

that human capital factor has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that human capital factor to secure a job offer

Remember that immigrants are coming here not to pay taxes, but they are coming here to make a life. So the human capital factor is THE MOST important. Age, work experience, language proficiency etc.,

the life they want is possible only with employment, which requires a job offer
unless they are independently wealthy to begin with
we did not import 492 k independently wealthy immigrants , i guarantee you that

if they are bilingual, there are lots of opportunities ... if the second language is in demand

So it makes sense to reduce the points assigned to jobs.

no !!!!!!!!

watering down economic criteria is bad economic policy

Correct. And those skill sets fall under human capital factors. That is why jobs had their points reduced.

ah no , if they have the skills which are in demand they can secure a job offer

It is still working that way technically even though they reduced the points to 50 for jobs. The only ones getting picked in the draws are the ones who are already here with jobs. Which is what was happening back in the day as well. That hasn't changed. Also there is no problem with people coming here without jobs. They all get a job within a year.

They all get a job right away if they have a job offer .

you are completely disingenuous to claim lowering the job offer score from 600 to 50 has not watered down the criteria

No immigration is tougher NOW. It was easier earlier. Go look at the past express entry draw scores.

do not be ridiculous
go look at the chart above

Adman lowered the point requirement right? In the link above check the scores that were drawn since 2018. You will see that they continually go up. So yes immigration is tougher now than it was prior to 2018.

you number noodled you way into confusion over relative contribution
now you are confusing yourself with number noodling pools and volume of applicants
you calculated your points and claimed you would not get in, without knowing the volume of applicants

were you lying then or lying now?
you are not fooling anyone, other than yourself

adman Hussein did not make immigration tougher, that is comical to suggest he did

you are incapable of processing cause and effect ... it must be the failed ideology
eliminating the hurdle of a job offer does not make immigration tougher now than it was prior to 2018

cause and effect
look at the factual evidence

this is a clear example of a policy objective, higher immigration volumes, facilitated by watering down the application criteria
executed as intended.

the issue is it is a bad economic policy objective

 

[simp2000]

There is no job offer possible from outside Canada. There is no risk if they come here without a job. They need to come here with funds anyway. They can come here and get a job within a year. No issues. There is no watering down of anything. Infact they have put their focus on the right things by increasing importance on human capital factors and not on economic factors. Human capital is the most important factor.

I just came back from an escort session so I'll make this short because I'm exhausted. Do you now know how to click a link to an article? Numb nuts.

 

[JohnLarue]

There is no job offer possible from outside Canada. There is no risk if they come here without a job. They need to come here with funds anyway. They can come here and get a job within a year. No issues. There is no watering down of anything. Infact they have put their focus on the right things by increasing importance on human capital factors and not on economic factors. Human capital is the most important factor.



Nothing has been watered down. It is not possible for immigrants from different parts of the world to get jobs in Canada from outside Canada. That doesn't work. They come here to live their entire lives here so there is no need for them to come here with jobs. They can come here and search for a job and get it within a year or so. Perfectly reasonable and nothing is lost and nothing is watered down here.

reducing the value of the job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
this is mathematically true logic, explained to you already .... the pie graph always adds to 100%
true logic that is so obvious it is comical/ alarming that you refuse to acknowledge this

higher immigration was an explicit liberal policy objective and and Adman Hussein executed the plan to implement that policy objective, via watered down criteria

the results are clear to see
cause and effect

your issue is you refuse to look at the facts objectively & you have been obnoxious despite being proven wrong
you had no clue the job offer value was reduced from 600 to 50 , reduced by 92%
So now you are trying to defend your indefensible position with ridiculous assertion's

 

[krealtarron]

I just came back from an escort session so I'll make this short because I'm exhausted. Do you now know how to click a link to an article? Numb nuts.

I read your articles but your articles dont answer my question about why you hate non white people? I thought I was the numb nut and you were the smart ass.

Am I right in assuming you are just another dumb racist?

 

[krealtarron]

reducing the value of the job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
this is mathematically true logic, explained to you already .... the pie graph always adds to 100%
true logic that is so obvious it is comical/ alarming that you refuse to acknowledge this

higher immigration was an explicit liberal policy objective and and Adman Hussein executed the plan to implement that policy objective, via watered down criteria

the results are clear to see
cause and effect

your issue is you refuse to look at the facts objectively & you have been obnoxious despite being proven wrong
you had no clue the job offer value was reduced from 600 to 50 , reduced by 92%
So now you are trying to defend your indefensible position with ridiculous assertion's

It is not watered down criteria. The criteria that you in your very own posts deemed the most important are human capital factors. You are mislabeling human capital factors as economic factors. These are all economic immigrants, so that doesn't even make sense. Immigration is focusing on human capital factors. So you should ideally not have an issue because immigration is actually doing what you want.

 

[krealtarron]

and the factors you listed are all requirement to secure a job offer

you fail to drill down deeper and connect the dots

An immigrants work experience has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that experience to secure a job offer
An immigrants skill set has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that experience to secure a job offer

that human capital factor has zero value to Canada unless he is able to use that human capital factor to secure a job offer

The factors required to secure a job offer are human capital factors. Every company out there focuses on acquiring human capital. And that is exactly what immigrants do. They apply for a PR with a NOC code in line with their jobs and then come here, use their prior work and educational experience, and secure a job. What else do you think they do?

We in Canada however, put barriers in front of them int he form of asking for "Canadian experience" which is just another way to say "You aren't white enough". We need to institute laws so the best and the brightest get jobs regardless of whether they are immigrants or not.

the life they want is possible only with employment, which requires a job offer
unless they are independently wealthy to begin with
we did not import 492 k independently wealthy immigrants , i guarantee you that

if they are bilingual, there are lots of opportunities ... if the second language is in demand

Yes and they will get a job after they come here. And they will eventually become wealthy. Most immigrants today come from India. Every Indian immigrant who came via this program that I know personally (and I know a lot of them) currently earns in 6 figures. How many Canadians do that?

no !!!!!!!!

watering down economic criteria is bad economic policy

There is nothing called economic criteria. There is human capital criteria. The only economic criteria if you want to split hairs, is the proof of funds they are required to show. A single person needs to show $13,310 minimum. But they usually come with atleast twice or 3 times that.

Nothing has been watered down and we have a great immigration system currently. We need to however do 2 things:

1. Remove Canadian experience requirement from jobs and pass a directive or a law that makes it illegal for firms to do that.
2. Reunite families faster - people are not effective if their families are suffering abroad. Reunite spouses, children, parents, grandparents faster.

So in sum, you are saying the exact thing I am saying but you are mislabeling human capital factors as economic factors.

a) Human capital factors such as age, educational qualifications, work experience, skill sets to do a job (for example ability to write code or knowing how to weld) are THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS in immigration. Job offers are a great plus, but it should be no problem if they dont have one. If they have potential, then they are a great immigrant and our current system ensures that.
b) Nothing has watered down and infact what you want is what is happening. More people are coming in, but there are more applicants, and therefore less % of people are being admitted. The ones that are being admitted are also the best and the brightest.
c) The majority that come here either have a job offer (which is currently the case), or come here and get a job which pays much more than the average Canadian earns. (6 figures or high 5 figures usually).

So your fear that we have a watered down immigration policy, where unproductive people come here and are not able to get jobs because there are a lot more immigrants does not hold water.

The only mistake is ours in making it difficult for immigrants to get a job because of racist and discriminatory hiring practices which need to stop.

 

[JohnLarue]

It is not watered down criteria. The criteria that you in your very own posts deemed the most important are human capital factors. You are mislabeling human capital factors as economic factors. These are all economic immigrants, so that doesn't even make sense. Immigration is focusing on human capital factors. So you should ideally not have an issue because immigration is actually doing what you want.

are you so stunned that you do not understand human capital is of zero value to Canada with out a job offer ?

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

this is plain as day logic

your issue is you refuse to look at the facts objectively & you have been obnoxious despite being proven wrong
you had no clue the job offer value was reduced from 600 to 50 , reduced by 92%
So now you are trying to defend your indefensible position with ridiculous assertion's

you lack the integrity to admit when you are wrong

 

[krealtarron]

are you so stunned that you do not understand human capital is of zero value to Canada with out a job offer ?

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

this is plain as day logic

your issue is you refuse to look at the facts objectively & you have been obnoxious despite being proven wrong
you had no clue the job offer value was reduced from 600 to 50 , reduced by 92%
So now you are trying to defend your indefensible position with ridiculous assertion's

you lack the integrity to admit when you are wrong

Wrong.

I think you are a bit dull.

Human capital IS THE ONLY THING OF VALUE TO CANADA. Job offers dont matter. Job offers are a great plus, so the person can get started, but their POTENTIAL IS WHAT MATTERS.

This is what Canada is rightfully focusing on. They were right to reduce the points for jobs from 600 to 50. They were previously focusing on what they should not have been.

Now we have a lot of young, educated, experienced people coming in and that is EXACTLY what we want. They come here and get a job in a few months to a year. All good nothing to worry about.

Immigration should further be increased in the years to come.

 

[JohnLarue]

The factors required to secure a job offer are human capital factors. Every company out there focuses on acquiring human capital. And that is exactly what immigrants do. They apply for a PR with a NOC code in line with their jobs and then come here, use their prior work and educational experience, and secure a job. What else do you think they do?

We in Canada however, put barriers in front of them int he form of asking for "Canadian experience" which is just another way to say "You aren't white enough". We need to institute laws so the best and the brightest get jobs regardless of whether they are immigrants or not.



Yes and they will get a job after they come here. And they will eventually become wealthy. Most immigrants today come from India. Every Indian immigrant who came via this program that I know personally (and I know a lot of them) currently earns in 6 figures. How many Canadians do that?



There is nothing called economic criteria. There is human capital criteria. The only economic criteria if you want to split hairs, is the proof of funds they are required to show. A single person needs to show $13,310 minimum. But they usually come with atleast twice or 3 times that.

Nothing has been watered down and we have a great immigration system currently. We need to however do 2 things:

1. Remove Canadian experience requirement from jobs and pass a directive or a law that makes it illegal for firms to do that.
2. Reunite families faster - people are not effective if their families are suffering abroad. Reunite spouses, children, parents, grandparents faster.

So in sum, you are saying the exact thing I am saying but you are mislabeling human capital factors as economic factors.

a) Human capital factors such as age, educational qualifications, work experience, skill sets to do a job (for example ability to write code or knowing how to weld) are THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS in immigration. Job offers are a great plus, but it should be no problem if they dont have one. If they have potential, then they are a great immigrant and our current system ensures that.
b) Nothing has watered down and infact what you want is what is happening. More people are coming in, but there are more applicants, and therefore less % of people are being admitted. The ones that are being admitted are also the best and the brightest.
c) The majority that come here either have a job offer (which is currently the case), or come here and get a job which pays much more than the average Canadian earns. (6 figures or high 5 figures usually).

So your fear that we have a watered down immigration policy, where unproductive people come here and are not able to get jobs because there are a lot more immigrants does not hold water.

The only mistake is ours in making it difficult for immigrants to get a job because of racist and discriminatory hiring practices which need to stop.

you do not have a clue

age, educational qualifications, work experience, skill sets to do a job

all requirements to obtaining the job offer and are of zero value to Canada until a job offer is acquired


reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

The ones that are being admitted are also the best and the brightest.

not without a job offer they are not

So your fear that we have a watered down immigration policy, where unproductive people come here and are not able to get jobs because there are a lot more immigrants does not hold water.

it most certainly holds water as they are not fulfilling the objective of the immigration system which is to fulfil the labor shortage in key skilled labor/ professional sectors


reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

 

[jeff2]

Here is Royal Lepage in 2020. The poor souls.

"As Ottawa prepares to announce its new immigration targets in the coming days, real estate company Royal LePage released a statement on Thursday urging the government to continue pro-immigration policies"

Immigration shortfalls from COVID-19 may spell short-term gain, but long-term pain for housing market

Canada’s failure to meet immigrations targets this year may have eased Toronto condo rents, but it could hurt real estate if the drop is sustained.

www.thestar.com

 

[krealtarron]

you do not have a clue
all requirements to obtaining the job offer and are of zero value to Canada until a job offer is acquired


reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not


not without a job offer they are not



it most certainly holds water as they are not fulfilling the objective of the immigration system which is to fulfil the labor shortage in key skilled labor/ professional sectors


reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

Wrong. You are clueless about your own arguments or about immigrants.

THE ONLY THING OF VALUE TO CANADA IS THE POTENTIAL TO SECURE A JOB OFFER AMONG OTHER THINGS. THE POTENTIAL TO SECURE A JOB IS DEFINED BY HUMAN CAPITAL FACTORS.

And immigrants will secure a job after AFTER they come here. Before that they will take up some part time job to sustain themselves. My friend form India did that. He came here with no jobs, took up a job with CIBC as a contact center specialist for 45,000 CAD per year after about 3 months of looking for a job. For the first 3 months, he survived on his own savings. And then a year later got into Deloitte as a Senior Manager for a high 6 figure salary.

Absolutely acceptable. Nothing wrong with that.

Also remember. We are NOT importing labor. We are importing citizens. Young citizens who will become future citizens of Canada. The nature of Canada as an English speaking, Anglo-Saxon society will change over time. Not int he short term, longer term. So do not assume that we are importing people to work. That is not the case.

 

[JohnLarue]

]Wrong.

I think you are a bit dull.

you do not think

Human capital IS THE ONLY THING OF VALUE TO CANADA. Job offers dont matter. Job offers are a great plus, so the person can get started, but their POTENTIAL IS WHAT MATTERS.

so wrong
anyone with the in demand skill set can secure a job offer particularly if they have such great POTENTIAL as you claim
time to turn potential into reality

This is what Canada is rightfully focusing on. They were right to reduce the points for jobs from 600 to 50. They were previously focusing on what they should not have been.

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

watering down our immgration criteria is bad economic policy

Now we have a lot of young, educated, experienced people coming in and that is EXACTLY what we want.

no it is not
we want young, educated, experienced people to fulfill specific positions where there is a labor shortage
sectors where job offers can be obtained prior to immigrating

They come here and get a job in a few months to a year. All good nothing to worry about.

pouring double doubles at Tim Horton's or driving a uber vehicle is not the desired outcome

Immigration should further be increased in the years to come.

nope, we have a housing shortage & a productivity problem

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

 

[krealtarron]

you do not think



so wrong
anyone with the in demand skill set can secure a job offer particularly if they have such great POTENTIAL as you claim
time to turn potential into reality



reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

watering down our immgration criteria is bad economic policy


no it is not
we want young, educated, experienced people to fulfill specific positions where there is a labor shortage
sectors where job offers can be obtained prior to immigrating


pouring double doubles at Tim Horton's or driving a uber vehicle is not the desired outcome


nope, we have a housing shortage & a productivity problem

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

And that is EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING! People with potential come here and secure a job and are successful. It is EXACTLY what you are wanting. Nothing other than that is happening. Sure they may pour double doubles or drive Uber, so what? We need people to do those too. And eventually they get other jobs. My pet sitter for example, no longer pet sits. She is an Indian girl. When I called her 3 weeks ago, she said she no longer pet sits because she got a job now. So eventually it all works out. Why are YOU in such a hurry for them to have a job? You are just fretting about a non issue here.

And they were RIGHT in reducing the value of having a job offer and instead to prioritize human capital factors that would help them secure those jobs in the first place.

And no, we are NOT allowing immigration because we want to satisfy a labor shortage. If that was the case we would just allow temporary immigrants. We are instead focusing on permanent residencies and citizenships and rightfully so. We are allowing immigration because we have an aging demographic. So we need the labor, but we primarily need CANADIANS who are young.

You have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about. You are agreeing with me and yet disagreeing with me at the same time because of your inability to see you that what you mean by "economic factors" is actually "human capital factors"

 

[JohnLarue]

Also remember. We are NOT importing labor. We are importing citizens. Young citizens who will become future citizens of Canada. The nature of Canada as an English speaking, Anglo-Saxon society will change over time. Not int he short term, longer term. So do not assume that we are importing people to work. That is not the case.

ah i see
you are finally showing your true objectives
Societal change via immigration and you want it accelerated to water down an English speaking, Anglo-Saxon society
that will happen over time , but it is foolish to prioritize your distain for English speaking, Anglo-Saxon society over sound economic policy

Societal change is not the purpose of our immigration system

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not

 

[JohnLarue]

And that is EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING! People with potential come here and secure a job and are successful. It is EXACTLY what you are wanting. Nothing other than that is happening. I mean they may struggle initially because of racism, discrimination or because it is a new culture but eventually they are all successful. A lot of them start their own businesses and employ Canadians which is great!

And they were RIGHT in reducing the value of having a job offer and instead to prioritize human capital factors that would help them secure those jobs in the first place.

And no, we are NOT allowing immigration because we want to satisfy a labor shortage. If that was the case we would just allow temporary immigrants. We are instead focusing on permanent residencies and citizenships and rightfully so. We are allowing immigration because we have an aging demographic. So we need the labor, but we primarily need CANADIANS who are young.

You have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about. You are agreeing with me and yet disagreeing with me at the same time because of your inability to see you that what you mean by "economic factors" is actually "human capital factors"

reducing the value of a job offer from 600 to 50 points is watered down criteria
only a fool or a uncompromising partisan ideologue (a fool by any other name) would argue it is not