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THAT'S your comment?!Yep. Hilarious that anyone would use "media fact checkers " in 2023 as any sort of argument. It's so cute....so 2015.
This is why I don't take you seriously, JC. I wait and wait for the devastating riposte that you should be delivering and I get..... the sad post you made that I quoted.
It's like a lady heading to the bedroom with a 6'4", ripped muscle dude only to find he's got a 2" dick-let!
It actually proves it. Chansley's videotaped clearly trespassing.
Chansley attempts unsuccessfully (and briefly) to disperse a large, angry crowd outside the Capitol that doesn't disperse. Even the cherrypicked, brief, edited clips that Tucker plays are guilty as fuck. And that leaves aside all the REALLY bad stuff that we've been watching for years.
There's only so much lying little Tucky-balls can do. The event was a riot where numerous cops were assaulted and the Capitol was breached. Pretty indisuptable. Playing a few seconds of video that Tucker can then try and frame as "innocent" isn't going to work.
That's why the other Fox commentators are staying clear and not supporting Tucky and why the GOP senators have twisted his balls for being such an asshole. The whole scenario is a debacle for Tucker and Fox.
Which was the most damaging wipeout?
McCarthy and the videos or Mitch and the floor?
How was this censored, since his lawyer used the "he read out the Trump tweet and tried to get people to go home" argument as a reason he should get bail?
He didn't.
But "Hey, the capo has told us we can lay off now, so lay off" isn't actually a defense to the shit you did before that.
Exactly. He committed the crime already. The most later backing off would achieve is get him a break on sentence after he was convicted - which he got from the judge anyway. The judge felt sorry because Chansley was such a fucked-up freak and let him off easy.
It obviously wasn't. You think maybe Tucker Carlson and Watkins are - just maybe-maybe-maybe - lying about this crap?!
Tucker Carlson is a downright liar, that works for Fox Lies network, also known as fLIES network!!
How Police Handled the ‘QAnon Shaman’
Claim: “The tapes show the Capitol Police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.”
Facts: This is false. Chansley, also known as the “QAnon Shaman,” who was sentenced to 41 months in prison for obstructing an official proceeding on Jan. 6, 2021, signed a plea agreement acknowledging that he entered the Capitol through a door broken by other rioters and that he ignored Capitol Police officers who asked him to exit the building multiple times.
On his show, Carlson played video of a shirtless Chansley — in face paint and wearing a horned headdress — walking through the halls of the Capitol, mostly being trailed by one or more Capitol Police officers.
“Capitol Police officers take him to multiple entrances and even try to open locked doors for him,” Carlson claimed in the segment. “We counted at least nine officers who were within touching distance of unarmed Jacob Chansely. Not one of them even tried to slow him down. Chansley understood that Capitol Police were his allies. Video shows him giving thanks for them in a prayer on the floor of the Senate.”
But Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger disputed Carlson’s description of the events in a staff memo issued the day after Carlson’s show aired. Manger said officers tried to resolve the situation without violence.
“One false allegation is that our officers helped the rioters and acted as ‘tour guides.’ This is outrageous and false,” Manger wrote. “This Department stands by the officers in the video that was shown last night. I don’t have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6. Those officers did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into getting each other to leave the building.”
One of the officers seen walking with Chansley, Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw, who has red hair and was wearing glasses and a light blue face mask, explained his thinking in the 2021 HBO documentary “Four Hours at the Capitol.”
In one of his first encounters with a group of rowdy protesters, including Chansley, who was armed with a spear affixed with an American flag, Robishaw said he knew he and his fellow officers had to try to get them to leave peacefully.
“We were standing on that line, and there was the six of us. Meeting violence with violence at this time would not be safe for me and my fellow officers,” Robishaw said about 36 minutes into the film. “The sheer number of them compared to us, I knew in my head there was no way that we could all get physical with them, so I took it upon myself to try and talk to them.”
“No attacking, no assault, remain calm,” Robishaw told the men.
Later, when Chansley had made his way to the Senate floor, Robishaw saw him and followed him inside, by himself, and tried to get Chansley and others already in the chamber to leave.
“I walk in behind him, and that’s when I realized I was alone now. I was by myself,” Robishaw told the documentarians. “I was like, ‘I can’t do anything.’ You know? I can only do is, you know, shout orders, and if they listen, great, if they don’t, I can’t force them. I’m all by myself.”
In video filmed by a New Yorker reporter, Robishaw is shown saying to the men: “Any chance I could get you guys to leave the Senate wing?” At one point, a protester says, “You should be stopping us.” Robishaw responds that he is outnumbered.
According to court documents, Chansley and others did not exit the chamber until additional law enforcement officers arrived to back up Robishaw.
www.factcheck.org
How Police Handled the ‘QAnon Shaman’
Claim: “The tapes show the Capitol Police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.”
Facts: This is false. Chansley, also known as the “QAnon Shaman,” who was sentenced to 41 months in prison for obstructing an official proceeding on Jan. 6, 2021, signed a plea agreement acknowledging that he entered the Capitol through a door broken by other rioters and that he ignored Capitol Police officers who asked him to exit the building multiple times.
On his show, Carlson played video of a shirtless Chansley — in face paint and wearing a horned headdress — walking through the halls of the Capitol, mostly being trailed by one or more Capitol Police officers.
“Capitol Police officers take him to multiple entrances and even try to open locked doors for him,” Carlson claimed in the segment. “We counted at least nine officers who were within touching distance of unarmed Jacob Chansely. Not one of them even tried to slow him down. Chansley understood that Capitol Police were his allies. Video shows him giving thanks for them in a prayer on the floor of the Senate.”
But Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger disputed Carlson’s description of the events in a staff memo issued the day after Carlson’s show aired. Manger said officers tried to resolve the situation without violence.
“One false allegation is that our officers helped the rioters and acted as ‘tour guides.’ This is outrageous and false,” Manger wrote. “This Department stands by the officers in the video that was shown last night. I don’t have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6. Those officers did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into getting each other to leave the building.”
One of the officers seen walking with Chansley, Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw, who has red hair and was wearing glasses and a light blue face mask, explained his thinking in the 2021 HBO documentary “Four Hours at the Capitol.”
In one of his first encounters with a group of rowdy protesters, including Chansley, who was armed with a spear affixed with an American flag, Robishaw said he knew he and his fellow officers had to try to get them to leave peacefully.
“We were standing on that line, and there was the six of us. Meeting violence with violence at this time would not be safe for me and my fellow officers,” Robishaw said about 36 minutes into the film. “The sheer number of them compared to us, I knew in my head there was no way that we could all get physical with them, so I took it upon myself to try and talk to them.”
“No attacking, no assault, remain calm,” Robishaw told the men.
Later, when Chansley had made his way to the Senate floor, Robishaw saw him and followed him inside, by himself, and tried to get Chansley and others already in the chamber to leave.
“I walk in behind him, and that’s when I realized I was alone now. I was by myself,” Robishaw told the documentarians. “I was like, ‘I can’t do anything.’ You know? I can only do is, you know, shout orders, and if they listen, great, if they don’t, I can’t force them. I’m all by myself.”
In video filmed by a New Yorker reporter, Robishaw is shown saying to the men: “Any chance I could get you guys to leave the Senate wing?” At one point, a protester says, “You should be stopping us.” Robishaw responds that he is outnumbered.
According to court documents, Chansley and others did not exit the chamber until additional law enforcement officers arrived to back up Robishaw.
Explaining the Missing Context of Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 Presentation - FactCheck.org
On Jan. 6, 2021, about 140 police officers were assaulted during the Capitol riot, and 326 participants -- more than 100 armed with weapons -- have been charged. But Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson has used recently released video from that day to misleadingly minimize the violence at the...
www.factcheck.org
ROTFLMFAO!!! The Shaman is doing 41 months for the police escorted tour of the Capitol. That's the facts all saw.Tucker Carlson is a downright liar, that works for Fox Lies network, also known as fLIES network!!
How Police Handled the ‘QAnon Shaman’
Claim: “The tapes show the Capitol Police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.”
Facts: This is false. Chansley, also known as the “QAnon Shaman,” who was sentenced to 41 months in prison for obstructing an official proceeding on Jan. 6, 2021, signed a plea agreement acknowledging that he entered the Capitol through a door broken by other rioters and that he ignored Capitol Police officers who asked him to exit the building multiple times.
On his show, Carlson played video of a shirtless Chansley — in face paint and wearing a horned headdress — walking through the halls of the Capitol, mostly being trailed by one or more Capitol Police officers.
“Capitol Police officers take him to multiple entrances and even try to open locked doors for him,” Carlson claimed in the segment. “We counted at least nine officers who were within touching distance of unarmed Jacob Chansely. Not one of them even tried to slow him down. Chansley understood that Capitol Police were his allies. Video shows him giving thanks for them in a prayer on the floor of the Senate.”
But Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger disputed Carlson’s description of the events in a staff memo issued the day after Carlson’s show aired. Manger said officers tried to resolve the situation without violence.
“One false allegation is that our officers helped the rioters and acted as ‘tour guides.’ This is outrageous and false,” Manger wrote. “This Department stands by the officers in the video that was shown last night. I don’t have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6. Those officers did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into getting each other to leave the building.”
One of the officers seen walking with Chansley, Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw, who has red hair and was wearing glasses and a light blue face mask, explained his thinking in the 2021 HBO documentary “Four Hours at the Capitol.”
In one of his first encounters with a group of rowdy protesters, including Chansley, who was armed with a spear affixed with an American flag, Robishaw said he knew he and his fellow officers had to try to get them to leave peacefully.
“We were standing on that line, and there was the six of us. Meeting violence with violence at this time would not be safe for me and my fellow officers,” Robishaw said about 36 minutes into the film. “The sheer number of them compared to us, I knew in my head there was no way that we could all get physical with them, so I took it upon myself to try and talk to them.”
“No attacking, no assault, remain calm,” Robishaw told the men.
Later, when Chansley had made his way to the Senate floor, Robishaw saw him and followed him inside, by himself, and tried to get Chansley and others already in the chamber to leave.
“I walk in behind him, and that’s when I realized I was alone now. I was by myself,” Robishaw told the documentarians. “I was like, ‘I can’t do anything.’ You know? I can only do is, you know, shout orders, and if they listen, great, if they don’t, I can’t force them. I’m all by myself.”
In video filmed by a New Yorker reporter, Robishaw is shown saying to the men: “Any chance I could get you guys to leave the Senate wing?” At one point, a protester says, “You should be stopping us.” Robishaw responds that he is outnumbered.
According to court documents, Chansley and others did not exit the chamber until additional law enforcement officers arrived to back up Robishaw.
Explaining the Missing Context of Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 Presentation - FactCheck.org
On Jan. 6, 2021, about 140 police officers were assaulted during the Capitol riot, and 326 participants -- more than 100 armed with weapons -- have been charged. But Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson has used recently released video from that day to misleadingly minimize the violence at the...
The guy that's complaining about Chinese electoral interference is still getting his news from TikTok?
He should not have been in the Capitol. He entered illegally and was surveilled because the cops didn't have the manpower to arrest and process him. This is so simple a grade school kid could figure it out.
You're too smart to do this. It's an endless troll with you.
Then you didn't watch any of the other footage, did you?
Go find out when the Shaman's appeal hearing is and post it. I am guessing that appeal hearing will never take place because the Shaman's hack attorney will keep stalling it off and "fund raising for his legal representation".
ROTFLMAO, at one time the alt right wingers were designating Shaman as an ANTIFA thug who invaded and caused the violence at Capitol Hill. Now that he is proven to be a QAnon and pro-Trump cult follower, suddenly he is a "tourist" being escorted by the police at Capitol Hill!!
A man who stormed the U.S. Capitol in a horned fur cap is an “Antifa thug.”
But right-wing personalities and Trump's supporters are claiming a different scenario, without any evidence.
They blamed "antifa," which the FBI last year deemed an ideology, rather than a specific organization.
Trump has used antifa as a boogeyman, and he and his supporters also blamed antifa — which stands for anti-fascist — for the widespread Black Lives Matter protests sparked last summer and continued throughout the year.
Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, a Republican and staunch Trump ally, said in a speech in Congress after the storming that "some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters. They were masquerading as Trump supporters and in fact, were members of the violent terrorist group antifa."
He later spread the theory on Twitter, and retweeted a post that called his speech "the speech of the day."
Gaetz was citing an article in the Washington Times, which claimed that a retired military officer said facial-recognition software from a company called XRVision had been used to connect two men who were with the protesters with antifa — the first because he had a "Stalinist" tattoo, and the second because he had been seen at Black Lives Matter protests in the past.
But there are a number of problems with his theory:
- XRVision told BuzzFeed News that the Washington Times story about it is false.
- As Insider's Charles Davis noted, Jake Angeli, the man who was pictured at the Black Lives Matter protest, was there because he was actually protesting those protests, and is not part of Antifa.
- Mashable noted that the tattoo on the other man was actually from a video-game logo, and there is evidence that he connects with extreme right-wing ideas.
- There is also the fact that both Trump and his supporters have been preparing to challenge the election results on January 6 for months, and that plans for the attack were circulating on social media in the days before.
Rep. Mo Brooks, a Republican from Atlanta, said on Fox News on Wednesday night: "There is some indication that fascist antifa elements were involved, that they embedded themselves in the Trump protests."
Rep. Paul Gosar, a Republican in Arizona, also tweeted: "This has all the hallmarks of antifa provocation."
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the Republican Shannon Grove, the minority leader of the California State Senate, tweeted: "Patriots don't act like this! This was Antifa," before deleting her tweet.
Posts alleging antifa involvement in the storming of the Capitol have been shared hundreds of thousands of times on Facebook and Twitter, The New York Times reported.
Fox News opinion personalities and right-wing media also got involved in helping peddle the false claim.
As The Washington Post noted, Fox News host Laura Ingraham also alluded to the idea that protesters had been infiltrated, saying on Wednesday that the rioters "were likely not all Trump supporters."
Republicans and Fox News personalities are fanning the flames of an evidence-free theory that antifa helped storm the Capitol with Trump supporters
Supporters of President Trump stormed the Capitol on Wednesday, but some of his allies are now spreading a baseless theory that blames antifa.
www.businessinsider.com
Once again FOX LIES NETWORK including this blatant liar called Tucker Carlson are proving themselves to be "fLIES News Network", and we have to treat any crap that is spewed from Carlson's nostrils as TOTAL and UTTER GARBAGE. But obviously you are defending these same thugs that are imprisoned!! ROTFLMAO!!
