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James Bond Books Will Be Edited

DinkleMouse

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They kept banning "offensive" books but still have Harry Potter books in circulation...have they not realize those books are pretty offensive to anybody's intelligence?
Some places have banned them, mostly thanks to Conservatives, despite the recent backlash towards JK Rowling from many in the LGBTQ community.
 

HungSowel

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Most Public libraries don't have copies of controversial books anymore, and many of those books are out of print. Try to find anything written by Henry Miller in a Toronto Public Library. The only place to find them is at second hand book stores, and many of those were put out of business by COVID-19 restrictions.

Other than in specialty stores, it's difficult to find printed periodicals for titles less popular that what's carried in a Shopper's Drug Mart, and they're all really expensive, with the lower print runs these days. I think the price of a National Enquirer by the cash registers at a grocery store was around $7.00.

When literature only exists in a digital form, it's very easy to alter or excise the ones that don't suit the agenda of the copyright holders, and without printed copies of the originals circulating, no one, a few generations from now, will know the difference. I'm not one of the people who sees that as progress.
When literature exists in digital form it exists forever and it is accessible, legally or otherwise, to everyone.
 

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Most Public libraries don't have copies of controversial books anymore, and many of those books are out of print. Try to find anything written by Henry Miller in a Toronto Public Library. The only place to find them is at second hand book stores, and many of those were put out of business by COVID-19 restrictions.

Other than in specialty stores, it's difficult to find printed periodicals for titles less popular that what's carried in a Shopper's Drug Mart, and they're all really expensive, with the lower print runs these days. I think the price of a National Enquirer by the cash registers at a grocery store was around $7.00.

When literature only exists in a digital form, it's very easy to alter or excise the ones that don't suit the agenda of the copyright holders, and without printed copies of the originals circulating, no one, a few generations from now, will know the difference. I'm not one of the people who sees that as progress.
You’d be surprised what you can get on EBay, lots of people selling out of print hard to get books, magazines, dvds etc.
 

NotADcotor

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Roger Moore was my favourite also with Connery close behind. But then I was a big Saint fan too.
I suspect that one's favorite James Bond tracks with one age. The best one is the one you grew up with. Much like if you were under 7 when the Ewok movie came out you loved them because they remind you of teddy bears and if you were older you thought they were stupid for the same reason. Exceptions, rules, proving.

I always preferred Moore, he was James Bond, but that Craig fellow really fits the bill. I don't mean the movies, they are all pretty much the same to me, but when I imagine James Bond, that is where I go.

Well until they replace him with a black welsh disabled lesbian trade unionist.
 

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Most Public libraries don't have copies of controversial books anymore, and many of those books are out of print. Try to find anything written by Henry Miller in a Toronto Public Library. The only place to find them is at second hand book stores, and many of those were put out of business by COVID-19 restrictions.

Other than in specialty stores, it's difficult to find printed periodicals for titles less popular that what's carried in a Shopper's Drug Mart, and they're all really expensive, with the lower print runs these days. I think the price of a National Enquirer by the cash registers at a grocery store was around $7.00.

When literature only exists in a digital form, it's very easy to alter or excise the ones that don't suit the agenda of the copyright holders, and without printed copies of the originals circulating, no one, a few generations from now, will know the difference. I'm not one of the people who sees that as progress.
I had no idea!

I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised, given that folks don't read any more. That includes me with social media and the Net, I guess. It used to be that anyone with a college education would automatically read the best sellers' list for coffee table conversation. But the best seller's list and coffee table conversation are pretty much dead themselves.

Thanks for telling me.
 

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When literature exists in digital form it exists forever and it is accessible, legally or otherwise, to everyone.
This is naive.

There is a lot of Windows software which only works with Windows XP and earlier Microsoft operating systems. New laptops do not have motherboards that are compatible with WinXP, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to find the older ones; most are in landfills by now.

What prevents computer manufacturers from making new models which won't execute the applications currently used to read digital text? Nothing at all; that sort of 'progress' happens all the time. I don't think people can buy a Windows Office Suite on CD anymore, they only sell digital downloads, with monthly or annual licensing fees. Every time Microsoft releases a new version of their software, that add some new features, and remove some others. Older software and operating systems were designed to obey the user's commands; newer ones tend to do most of the work and offering 'helpful suggestions', and the user is reduced to choosing from the options offered, rather than making their own decisions. This stifles creativity and original thought.

When more advanced text reading apps are created, many currently available titles won't be made available, and many others, like the Roald Dahl and James Bond books, will have been altered. Try comparing the text of The Holy Bible in any online version to a printed copy more than 50 years old - the two will be substantially different.

Every day, we see activists on both the politically Left and Right trying to restrict everyone from having access to intellectual property which conflicts with their view of how things should be. It's not a stretch of the imagination for Governments to prevent citizens from reading or writing anything critical of their policies; that's already the norm in places like China, Russia and North Korea.
 

onomatopoeia

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I had no idea!

I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised, given that folks don't read any more. That includes me with social media and the Net, I guess. It used to be that anyone with a college education would automatically read the best sellers' list for coffee table conversation. But the best seller's list and coffee table conversation are pretty much dead themselves.

Thanks for telling me.
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?
 

DinkleMouse

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I suspect that one's favorite James Bond tracks with one age. The best one is the one you grew up with. Much like if you were under 7 when the Ewok movie came out you loved them because they remind you of teddy bears and if you were older you thought they were stupid for the same reason. Exceptions, rules, proving.

I always preferred Moore, he was James Bond, but that Craig fellow really fits the bill. I don't mean the movies, they are all pretty much the same to me, but when I imagine James Bond, that is where I go.
Not sure I agree. I'm not so old that Moore was still in the role when I was of age to see them.

Well until they replace him with a black welsh disabled lesbian trade unionist.
Seems weird to be decrying a thing that the studio has made no mention of doing. Seems like you're just trying to create a controversy where none exists.
 

DinkleMouse

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This is naive.

There is a lot of Windows software which only works with Windows XP and earlier Microsoft operating systems. New laptops do not have motherboards that are compatible with WinXP, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to find the older ones; most are in landfills by now.
But in the digital age, that doesn't matter. It's relatively trivial for anyone with a modicum of tech literacy to download a Windows XP image and run it in a virtual machine, and you can find the media online for everything back to MS-DOS.
 

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This is naive.

There is a lot of Windows software which only works with Windows XP and earlier Microsoft operating systems. New laptops do not have motherboards that are compatible with WinXP, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to find the older ones; most are in landfills by now.

What prevents computer manufacturers from making new models which won't execute the applications currently used to read digital text? Nothing at all; that sort of 'progress' happens all the time. I don't think people can buy a Windows Office Suite on CD anymore, they only sell digital downloads, with monthly or annual licensing fees. Every time Microsoft releases a new version of their software, that add some new features, and remove some others. Older software and operating systems were designed to obey the user's commands; newer ones tend to do most of the work and offering 'helpful suggestions', and the user is reduced to choosing from the options offered, rather than making their own decisions. This stifles creativity and original thought.

When more advanced text reading apps are created, many currently available titles won't be made available, and many others, like the Roald Dahl and James Bond books, will have been altered. Try comparing the text of The Holy Bible in any online version to a printed copy more than 50 years old - the two will be substantially different.

Every day, we see activists on both the politically Left and Right trying to restrict everyone from having access to intellectual property which conflicts with their view of how things should be. It's not a stretch of the imagination for Governments to prevent citizens from reading or writing anything critical of their policies; that's already the norm in places like China, Russia and North Korea.
A book is essentiall text, just like what I am typing here, and all computers can open .txt text files.

Now reading a giant text file is not a great experience so maybe you want a more convient format like epub or PDF which require software but digital formats are well known and there are many software old and new that can read them.

Someone above me mentioned virtual machines, that is what I use to run old Windows XP and 7 software on my modern windows 10 computer. Current computer hardware is so powerful that you can partition off a small amounts of the hardware to run multiple instances of almost any operating system. I am writing this post inside a windows 10 virtual machine. If I need to run my older version of photoshop that does not require month subscription then I spin up my old windows 7 virtual machine. I have some super old software for technical work that only runs on XP, so if I need to run that software than I spin up my old windows xp virtual machine.
 

onomatopoeia

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A book is essentiall text, just like what I am typing here, and all computers can open .txt text files.

Now reading a giant text file is not a great experience so maybe you want a more convient format like epub or PDF which require software but digital formats are well known and there are many software old and new that can read them.

Someone above me mentioned virtual machines, that is what I use to run old Windows XP and 7 software on my modern windows 10 computer. Current computer hardware is so powerful that you can partition off a small amounts of the hardware to run multiple instances of almost any operating system. I am writing this post inside a windows 10 virtual machine. If I need to run my older version of photoshop that does not require month subscription then I spin up my old windows 7 virtual machine. I have some super old software for technical work that only runs on XP, so if I need to run that software than I spin up my old windows xp virtual machine.
Technically savvy people can do those sorts of things. A majority of the population think their cellphone is a computer.

I also use a lot of older apps, many of them with serial cracks. Windows updates search for some of them, and disables them. I know this because with Windows XP, the update .log file can be opened with notepad, and most of the text is in plain English. It appeared to me that certain companies pay a fee to Microsoft to search for an disable unregistered software during the update process.

I have a stockpile of computers with XP operating system, (five laptops and two towers), and only one of the tower models has ever been connected to the Internet after the XP operating system was installed. As far as I can tell, the disabling of unregistered software began around February, 2014. The XP computers than my geek sets up have Service packs 1, 2 and 3, but no updates after that.

Now reading a giant text file is not a great experience so maybe you want a more convient format like epub or PDF which require software but digital formats are well known and there are many software old and new that can read them.

That's true today, but 20, 50, 100 years from now, who knows? At some point, the average Joe might have to pay a fee to read anything, or may have to make an application to request to read something in particular that would not interest the majority. I don't see life in the future getting better, and I expect that it will be a lot worse.
 

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I suspect that one's favorite James Bond tracks with one age. The best one is the one you grew up with. Much like if you were under 7 when the Ewok movie came out you loved them because they remind you of teddy bears and if you were older you thought they were stupid for the same reason. Exceptions, rules, proving.

I always preferred Moore, he was James Bond, but that Craig fellow really fits the bill. I don't mean the movies, they are all pretty much the same to me, but when I imagine James Bond, that is where I go.

Well until they replace him with a black welsh disabled lesbian trade unionist.
My #1 is tied with Connery and Craig. Both captured the harnessed violence and occasional cruelty of the character.

Moore was a cartoon. Lazenby mediocre, and Brosnan another cartoon. Dalton was imo a victim of poor scripts and lack of budget. He also could have captured the essence of the character given the chance
 

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IMHO, "they", are the woke left. The same censors who forced the Cleveland Indians MLB team to become the Cleveland Guardians. Also, who forced the Washington Redskins NFL team, to become the Washington Commanders.
‘They’, ‘the woke’. Likely decedents of supporters of the Prohibition and look how that timed out. 😂
 

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Just another case where the right freaks out because a company wants to make more money by broadening their customers base.
 

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Technically savvy people can do those sorts of things. A majority of the population think their cellphone is a computer.

I also use a lot of older apps, many of them with serial cracks. Windows updates search for some of them, and disables them. I know this because with Windows XP, the update .log file can be opened with notepad, and most of the text is in plain English. It appeared to me that certain companies pay a fee to Microsoft to search for an disable unregistered software during the update process.

I have a stockpile of computers with XP operating system, (five laptops and two towers), and only one of the tower models has ever been connected to the Internet after the XP operating system was installed. As far as I can tell, the disabling of unregistered software began around February, 2014. The XP computers than my geek sets up have Service packs 1, 2 and 3, but no updates after that.

Now reading a giant text file is not a great experience so maybe you want a more convient format like epub or PDF which require software but digital formats are well known and there are many software old and new that can read them.

That's true today, but 20, 50, 100 years from now, who knows? At some point, the average Joe might have to pay a fee to read anything, or may have to make an application to request to read something in particular that would not interest the majority. I don't see life in the future getting better, and I expect that it will be a lot worse.
The issue of books aside, you should check out youtube tutorials regarding virtual machines. I recommend the software VMware workstation free edition for virtualization.

In your case, virtual machines would solve problems that you did not know you even had and it offers security, performance, and ease of disaster recovery that can not be matched with an old physical computer.
 
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My #1 is tied with Connery and Craig.
For me, it always has been and always will be Connery. But Craig is the only other one that I consider is a good Bond. Roger Moore was too froofie to be Bond. Bond was rugged and had an edge to him.
 

NotADcotor

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Not sure I agree. I'm not so old that Moore was still in the role when I was of age to see them.



Seems weird to be decrying a thing that the studio has made no mention of doing. Seems like you're just trying to create a controversy where none exists.
I am that old

As for your second point... so I guess Hamilton didn't use black actors to play Aaron Burr, the Marquis de Lafayette and Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington.
Anne Boleyn a queen of England wasn't played by a black actress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn_(TV_series)
Of course they would never make Joan of Arc non binary. Nope that would never ever happen.
Also it would be inconceivable that they would ever remake the Equalizer with a black dude and then do a TV series with some obese black chick. [To be fair Denzel Washington really rocked in that role, and it helps that the previous tv series it was based on wasn't exactly huge, hell I never heard of it till the Denzel Washington movie, but Queen fucking Latifah... Might as well made her a disabled trade unionist while they are at it.

And of course Idris Elba was never ever under consideration for the role of James Bond at least not until he said he wouldn't do it. Well according to the patriarchal white supremacists at the NPR
And of course we have never seen such things in comic books where lazy writers just take a dude and make him a chick instead of writing a new character. No that would never ever in a million years happen.

Also it's a reference to Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister.


But good to see that the woke are as equally inclined as Trumptards to deny reality.
 

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Censorship, what a load of horse shit. Leave the books, all books as originally written by the author. If the language, content etc. bothers you, do not read the book. Its is as simple as that.
Things are never "as simple as that" when we're dealing with intellectual property like books, movies, shows, songs, etc. Remember when Marvel sued the families of Stan Lee and others for control of the copyright for several characters? I think Marvel won that case because Stan Lee, etc. were contracted to create those characters. So they were employees and do not own the characters.

Things get muddy once we expand things and talk about corporate personhood, which is relevant here. If corporations are people, then they share the same rights like freedom of expression, assoocation, etc. Therefore they have the right to express their ideas and that would include changing or destroying their property. We could certanly make a case to reveoke those rights, but that's been debated for decades and I don't see that changing any time soon.
 
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