Newspapers drop Dilbert after racist tirade

[silentkisser]

How about "cracker"? Also innocuous?

This is about power. I'm white, and I can honestly say I cannot think of an offensive term someone could say to me that would upset me like if I were a POC being called ni**er or ch*nk or some other racial epithet. While "Cracker" apparently derives from a slave owner whipping people, I wouldn't get angry about being called one.

But, the difference here is, as a white man, I am in the majority. I have perceived power and the backing of the government in ways that most POC do not feel. I get the benefit of the doubt when I walk into a store, where the clerks likely won't follow me in the aisles to make sure I don't shoplift. I have cops ignore me if I speed a little or other small traffic infractions that would probably result in a POC being pulled over.

Now, onto the topic at hand and Scott Adams....The question we should be asking is how Rasmussen conducted this poll. They are a notorious conservative polling firm who ask rigged and biased questions like "Should the government set limits on how much salt Americans can eat?" when they are talking about limiting the salt in pre-processed food. Apparently in this poll they also asked if Black people can be racist.

Now, as others have also pointed out, the whole thing about "being OK to be white" spurned from the backlash against BLM, where white supremacists tried to make it mean that black lives mattered more than any other race....which anyone who wasn't illiterate or could think critically would know was not true. Now, keep in mind that Adams has been dipping his toes in extremist right-wing rhetoric for a decade or so, it isn't shocking to see him embrace this type of bullshit.

Finally, while the right wants to whine about cancel culture and how this hurts free speech....fuck that bullshit. This is called consequences. A publisher like USA Today has the right NOT to publish work from anybody. They can choose to run what they want, when they want. That is freedom of the press. If the right-wing nut jobs want to force a publisher to print or air what they want, they are going against the First Amendment....especially if they attempt to do it via legislation.

 

[silentkisser]

Wait. What if it had something to do with attitudes and philosophy one adopts especially with the societal challenges that Black people and other visible minorities face?

Study: Black Immigrants Earn More than U.S.-Born Blacks

Nielsen research finds that black immigrants earn more than U.S-born blacks. The median household income for foreign black immigrants is 30% higher than black Americans.

www.blackenterprise.com

History clearly has an effect on the present. For all of us. But man, your own personal choices and behaviors and general outlook on life are FAR more relevant in determining your outcomes than what happened to your grandma, I promise you.

There are many things to consider when you look at this than just a comparison between what you are inferring to as "lazy, underachieving" black people compared to the hard working immigrants...

First, depending on how these black immigrants came to the US, many of them are probably well educated and could have independent wealth already. This likely allows them to get better jobs or professions. Now, compare that to someone living in a poor black community. They probably grew up in a household where the parents (maybe a single mom) worked a job that barely covered expenses. They were likely sent to a third-rate school that had little to no funding....so outdated books and equipment, and burned out teachers. What are the odds they do well on their SATs or are able to graduate? They might not even get a GED, so getting a better job has instant barriers. There are so many reasons why this is not an apples to apples comparison, it isn't even close to being fair.

Now, I'm not saying that personal choice and behaviour doesn't matter. It does. But growing up poor and black in America and the deck is really stacked against you. They don't get the same choices as an immigrant, who can choose where they live much more easier, which can also open up many more opportunities and choices.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

How about "cracker"? Also innocuous?

This is about power. I'm white, and I can honestly say I cannot think of an offensive term someone could say to me that would upset me like if I were a POC being called ni**er or ch*nk or some other racial epithet. While "Cracker" apparently derives from a slave owner whipping people, I wouldn't get angry about being called one.

Cracker originally was a term used by rich white people toward poorer whites.

 

[Frankfooter]

While what you say is completely true, this line of thinking ignores the obvious political aspect.

For example, US Data, depending on your political point of view, you really, really over- or under-estimate the number of unarmed black men killed by police.

1097 people were shot by cops in the US in 2022.

1/3 of those numbers race wasn't identified and they still had 225 Black Americans killed by cops.
What do you think is a good number?

 

[Frankfooter]

There are many things to consider when you look at this than just a comparison between what you are inferring to as "lazy, underachieving" black people compared to the hard working immigrants...

First, depending on how these black immigrants came to the US, many of them are probably well educated and could have independent wealth already. This likely allows them to get better jobs or professions. Now, compare that to someone living in a poor black community. They probably grew up in a household where the parents (maybe a single mom) worked a job that barely covered expenses. They were likely sent to a third-rate school that had little to no funding....so outdated books and equipment, and burned out teachers. What are the odds they do well on their SATs or are able to graduate? They might not even get a GED, so getting a better job has instant barriers. There are so many reasons why this is not an apples to apples comparison, it isn't even close to being fair.

Now, I'm not saying that personal choice and behaviour doesn't matter. It does. But growing up poor and black in America and the deck is really stacked against you. They don't get the same choices as an immigrant, who can choose where they live much more easier, which can also open up many more opportunities and choices.

What that study says is that its harder to overcome systematic racism in the US than in other countries, where black immigrants can come to the US and do better based on education and social support.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

There are many things to consider when you look at this than just a comparison between what you are inferring to as "lazy, underachieving" black people compared to the hard working immigrants...

First, depending on how these black immigrants came to the US, many of them are probably well educated and could have independent wealth already. This likely allows them to get better jobs or professions. Now, compare that to someone living in a poor black community. They probably grew up in a household where the parents (maybe a single mom) worked a job that barely covered expenses. They were likely sent to a third-rate school that had little to no funding....so outdated books and equipment, and burned out teachers. What are the odds they do well on their SATs or are able to graduate? They might not even get a GED, so getting a better job has instant barriers. There are so many reasons why this is not an apples to apples comparison, it isn't even close to being fair.

Now, I'm not saying that personal choice and behaviour doesn't matter. It does. But growing up poor and black in America and the deck is really stacked against you. They don't get the same choices as an immigrant, who can choose where they live much more easier, which can also open up many more opportunities and choices.

There's an addition to this that needs to be added.

Black people in America was sabotaged by White people and that includes the American government.

When black people were moving up socially and economically in the 40's, 50's and 60's, There was a joint collection of white people from all levels that conspired to stop this.

This is why you have a lot of people who speak on the outcome but don't know the history.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Conspiracy.
Post your source on "joint collection of white people from all levels that conspired to stop this."

I know what you're referring to but I'm curious if you really understand the economic context.

What do you think I'm referring to?

Trust me you have no clue.

You're one of those people that only speak about the outcome, not the history.

 

[shack]

Referring to ''Asians as orientals is racist!

There is nothing racist about using Oriental. It describes a recognized area of the world, the Orient. It does not refer to someone based on the characteristics of their race. It is based on geography and nothing else.

 

[shack]

The noun Oriental has a long history of association with colonialism

Colonialism is different than racism.

 

[Frankfooter]

It's not financial straits alone that determines achievement.

True, systematic racism is also a big factor.

 

[Frankfooter]

You tell me. Are these armed? Unarmed? In the middle of committing a crime? Context matters. BLM is about "unarmed" black men getting shot. Not "225 Black Americans. "

You have yet to post any evidence or data to support your positions. Please fee free to start anytime.

I posted a link to the stats I used.
You were wrong and should apologize for not taking the care to check.

 

[shack]

The most discriminated against demographic in much of the western world are white heterosexual conservative men-bonus discrimination if they're a practicing Christian.

Snowflake rightie. You're a victim. LOL

 

[Frankfooter]

You tell me. Are these armed? Unarmed? In the middle of committing a crime? Context matters. BLM is about "unarmed" black men getting shot. Not "225 Black Americans. "

You have yet to post any evidence or data to support your positions. Please fee free to start anytime.

You ask for evidence?
Where is the evidence that BLM are about 'unarmed' black men getting shot?

BLM is about the systematic racism that means black families still have to give the 'talk' and killings like this still happen regularly.

Colorado sheriff honors deputy after he killed man who mistakenly got in wrong car

Richard Ward, 32, was shot thrice at close range by Charles McWhorter, who received a purple heart award

www.theguardian.com

 

[shack]

This is true. Most scientists 'can't replicate studies by their peers'

A proper paper of an experiment describes the methodology well enough that it should be repeatable.

The hallmarks of a proper study is that the results are verifiable and repeatable. Most peer reviewed published studies pass these requisites.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be published in the 1st place.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

It's your post and your original statement. The onus is on you.

It's all in front of you face. There is not one instance, it was a complete system.

Yes, yes, and you're no doubt one of those people that look (stuck?) to the past to find reasons why you shouldn't try something different today. Looking to your oppressors for succor is not a good long term strategy.

No, I believe that when people see the truth it awakens them and starts a fire.

Instead of being "stuck", it gives you purpose to move forward.

 

[Frankfooter]

Really? BLM is about "systemic racism"

From wiki.

Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement that seeks to highlight racism, discrimination, and racial inequality experienced by black people. Its primary concerns are incidents of police brutality and racially motivated violence against black people.It started following the killings of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Rekia Boyd, among others

My apologies. I did not realize BLM was about the whole system. I thought they were primarily about police killings of black people (mostly men).

You confuse the crimes that gave the impetus to start this movement with the issues they are concerned about.
That's a basic error.

 

[silentkisser]

@John_Jacob, do you really feel black people born in America could be successful if they only tried harder? Is that what you're basically saying, that there is an even playing field for them, and they can go as far as their talents will take them?

Because, if so, that's a load of shit.

Historically, since reconstruction in the South, the plight of black people has been one of oppression and rules specifically designed to disenfranchise them in one way or the other. They introduced voting regulations that included literacy tests....but would include grandfather clauses that would allow poor illiterate whites to vote. Separate but equal school boards? Sure, sounds great until you realize all the resources go to the white school, while black children are forced to do with lesser equipment. Buying a home to create generational wealth....ever hear of "red lining?" Which was a process where it was impossible for a black family to get a cheap, government backed loan to buy a home, while they were literally giving them away to white families. Then we can look at the environmental racism, which forced blacks to live "on the wrong side of the tracks" metaphorically speaking. Black communities frequently have highways/expressways going through them, or rail traffic. The pollution and environmental hazards are significantly worse for these communities. You talk about marriage rates in the 60s compared to the 90s. There are multiple reasons for the decline, and part of it is the racist war on drugs. They made it so that possession of crack held a significantly higher penalty than powder cocaine. It might shock you to know that blacks used crack more while wealthy white people used cocaine...So, the jails became full of black men for selling drugs, or the suspicion of selling drugs, which broke up families and caused a generational shift that nobody saw coming...and those communities are still feeling it today.

Basically, blacks have had the deck stacked against them since about 1870...And obviously chattel slavery before the Civil War wasn't good for them as well...

 

[curr3n_c1000]

And yet I have yet to see proof of this 'truth' you defend. Huh.

Also, "There is not one instance, it was a complete system" sounds really really conspiracy. "Complete system" makes it conveniently hard to prove doesn't it?" 'It's all around us' sounds very cool & Yoda like.

I don't have to prove nothing to you, because you are nothing but bad intentions.

I made my statement and it's well documents about the struggles of black americans.

It's not a mistake how people like you cut out a lot of history.

 

[krealtarron]

One of the things people dont think about is, why in the first place will a conservative polling company such as the Rasmussen Reports conduct a poll regarding the phrase "It's OK to be white".

If it was such an innocuous term, then what is the point of asking such a question to someone in the first place ? It is infact passive aggressive and stupid.

Therefore, that term must mean something else - and it does, based on how it is used by trolls and racists online. Infact Rasmussen Reports conducting this poll is in and of itself intended to troll and create a stir.

People who are racist pricks like Scott Adams just need a bone to pick on, and this was the perfect one for him to grab on to and vent his right wing outrage.

 

[Leimonis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630181795101540357