Breaking: Mayor Tory Steps Down.
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It is interesting what BT lets Sid say. Whatever he talks about, it's usually ill-considered, pandering to his perceived audience, and sometimes he even exposes BT to legal liability (not in this particular case). It's shocking to me that the legal department of City lets him talk about ANY controversial topics.
Plus, his rants are not well constructed, or even coherent at times.
In this one, what is Sid trying to say? Is he saying anyone who cheats in their marriage is unfit for public office? That would rule out about 75% of people, if we're being honest! Is he saying that cheating is a "sin", and therefore always wrong? I guess that depends on which religion you subscribe to, or whether you are religious at all. Is he saying that cheating on your spouse is immoral? By whose standards? Does it matter whether the spouse has also cheated, or failed her husband in some other significant way? Does he just feel personally let down, since BT had such a cozy (and soft) relationship with Tory, having him on the show every Monday? It's often hard to discern the point that Sid thinks he is making.
I think most likely Sid is just pandering to a horde of viewers likely to be women who are in no way living up to the promises they made their husbands when they married, who think that if they can create "a rule for thee, but none for me" about living up to spousal obligations they can either intimidate their husbands from straying, or force the legal system to hammer husbands for their infidelity (no, the courts/justice system won't admit they are doing that - but they are).
Given what I think Sid is up to, instead of seeing him as "a stand up guy with a disciplined moral code", I see him as a weakling who panders to his stupid audience.
MInd you, there are lots of good reasons for couples to be faithful. However, I don't think one of them is "just because you should".
I don't like Tory or his politics, but I won't condemn him for cheating without knowing the totality of his relationship with his wife. I guarantee you that thought never even entered Sid's simpleminded head.
p.s. And a sarcastic "kudos!" to the Toronto Star for outing Tory, ensuring that Torontonians, at least in the short run, get an even worse mayor! Well done, Red Star!
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You won't condemn him for using tax payer money to take his side-chick on vacations for 2 years?
He literally had the city pay for his sugar baby.
You are assuming facts that I'm not prepared to assume, and that I actually think are unlikely to be proven.
As much as I consider any Mayor taking international "fact-finding" or "business development" road trips to points yonder to be a big waste of taxpayer money, I'm well aware that every Toronto mayor takes these trips, and if you take the trips, you need to take some staff with you. I know nothing to suggest his side thing wasn't properly part of the delegation he travelled with. I think that following the money on this issue is a red herring.
I don't think whatever happened in the hotel rooms at the end of the day cost taxpayers any extra wasted money (unless Tory's Viagra was covered by the City's health benefit plan!).
Tory invited an ethics review in connection with his disclosure and resignation. Politicians usually don't invite scrutiny unless they're pretty squeeky clean in relation to the money involved. I'll predict he comes through the ethics review without a scratch.
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What the hell are you talking about?
They went on trips together, he fucked her, the city of Toronto paid her salary and all other expenses.
What more do you need to prepare for? What, are you waiting for a sex tape?
If they both were properly on the trip (i.e. Tory went and did what he was supposed to do on the trip, and she was a proper adjunct for those purposes), there's no waste of taxpayer money for fucking purposes. I tend to think the entire trip was a waste of money, as I've said, but not because of the fucking.What the hell are you talking about?
They went on trips together, he fucked her, the city of Toronto paid her salary and all other expenses.
What more do you need to prepare for?
Look, I'm no apologist for Tory. He's been a useless Mayor. However, going after him over money goes nowhere. Better to be honest and just say he was a sanctimonious hypocrite who imposed a lot of hardships on Torontonians during Covid but denied himself almost nothing, so good riddance.
But you're going to hate who you get in the by-election even more!
It's not that he wasted money, it's he had his fuck toy on payroll. The people's payroll.
Then when things got hot, he moved her over to MLSE as an "Associate Director"
According to you, he should probably hold a Career Fair at Cafe Atlantis.
I think there'd need to be a stronger connection than she's simply "on the payroll". If Tory was single, and happened to start dating someone on the City of Toronto payroll, would you be making the same complaint? I don't think so. There's no code of conduct rule that prevents politicians from dating/marrying staffers, as long as it doesn't create a conflict of interest for either. The logic you're advancing doesn't stand up to scrutiny.It's not that he wasted money, it's he had his fuck toy on payroll. The people's payroll.
Then when things got hot, he moved her over to MLSE as an "Associate Director"
According to you, he should probably hold a Career Fair at Cafe Atlantis.
I think you are either implying or assuming that the ONLY or PREDOMINANT reason she was hired is because they were together already or Tory thought he had a shot with her. One, nobody knows that, and no one at City Hall is even suggesting it. The storyline is that working closely together during the pandemic lit the fires of their June-December 15th love (not a reference to the dates of their relationship). Two, if they were seeing one another before she was hired - there goes the "power dynamic" argument that some are touting as the basis for their condemnation.
There are plenty of people on the "people's payroll" that are dating or even married to each other. Do you really care, if they are doing the jobs they are paid for, and there's no conflict of interest? You shouldn't care, because if you do it kind of just makes you look jealous, rather than a guardian of the public purse. Not a good look, especially on Valentine's day!
I'm sure he helped her move on to MLSE with the influence he has over there. Again, people with the right connections get breaks that others don't. Don't hate the player - hate the game!
The city also paid for all of Tory's Viagra. No wonder the city has a huge deficit.What the hell are you talking about?
They went on trips together, he fucked her, the city of Toronto paid her salary and all other expenses.
What more do you need to prepare for? What, are you waiting for a sex tape?
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Stop right there. He's not. You're creating a fake scenario. The man has been married for almost half a century.
Stop trying to talk around the reality of the situation.
I haven't read the 15 pages in this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already. From a friend who works close to the Mayor's office, it was common knowledge that Tory and Barb had been living separate lives for a while. She's been living at their place in Florida and many knew about the affair.
Personally, I don't care if he was banging a 31 year-old. I'm reading how bent out of shape some people are getting over this. I actually find it quite amusing at the outrage.
For those who don't like Tory and think he's messed up the city. Careful what you wish for. The next Mayor could be far worse.
Personally, I don't care if he was banging a 31 year-old. I'm reading how bent out of shape some people are getting over this. I actually find it quite amusing at the outrage.
For those who don't like Tory and think he's messed up the city. Careful what you wish for. The next Mayor could be far worse.
