Greta Thunberg exposed as low hanging fruit picker.

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If Greta took a flight every week it would not make a huge amount of difference since the flight is scheduled and will take place anyways. With or without her. If her trek across the Atlantic in a 48-foot catamaran had run into trouble, huge rescue planes would have to be dispatched and huge ships would have to be sent. Ships are huge polluters but when it is a military ship it is even less efficient as it burns huge amounts of fuel without carrying cargo.
Not true. With each additional passenger, the aircraft's mass will increase and therefore that much extra force (i.e. work) is required to get it off of the ground. This is best demonstrated with trying to accelerate a car with two people in it vs one (or none, in the case of a Tesla....HAHAHAHAHA).....
 

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Why do the right wingers keep on slamming someone like Greta Thunberg who has no intention to even hurt a fly and is genuinely concerned about her future and that of the planet? Yet the darling of the alt right called Kyle Rittenhouse who has killed two protesters and injured another in a shooting while being a minor is praised and treated like a hero!!

Bonneville County GOP to host Kyle Rittenhouse, James Lindsay at 2023 Lincoln Day Gala

 
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Although this is extremely sad, this is extremely true.

This is not good for anyone because people, on average, are selfish assholes.....

Let's not be proud of this fact, alright?
There is an entire generation that sees the oil&gas industry as pretty evil now.
And they are quite right
Really, its just down to the most extreme of the right wingers who are science deniers, the wackos like johnlarue.


The rest of us are just watching the changes.
IEA: Renewables plus Nuclear are able to meet 90% of Globe’s New Electricity demand Through 2025

 
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Why do the right wingers keep on slamming someone like Greta Thunberg who has no intention to even hurt a fly and is genuinely concerned about her future and that of the planet?
I wonder if her intensions are entirely unselfish. I have no proof and am not saying that she is doing this purely for personal gain but there have been many examples of people that are the heads of organizations that profit greatly.

There was a case in Montreal back 12-15 years ago where the top guy at the SPCA was paying himself $150,000 a year and had all sorts of perks from the organization. When this was found out he resigned and registered SPCA.CA and collected money from across Canada. It was not clear that this organization even had a compound for animals.

There was a dirtbag biker type that collected donations for a Toys for Tots, after he paid himself and family members there was less than 10% left for toys. Most of the toys were donated so he only had to deliver the toys. He also bought a customized van and a crew cab pick-up truck for organizational use.
 

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Not true. With each additional passenger, the aircraft's mass will increase and therefore that much extra force (i.e. work) is required to get it off of the ground. This is best demonstrated with trying to accelerate a car with two people in it vs one (or none, in the case of a Tesla....HAHAHAHAHA).....
If you compare the fuel used when a car has one passenger vs. two passengers, the fuel consumption increase is minimal and does not double. The greatest mass in a plane or car is the vehicle itself and not the passengers.
 

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I wonder if her intensions are entirely unselfish. I have no proof and am not saying that she is doing this purely for personal gain but there have been many examples of people that are the heads of organizations that profit greatly.

There was a case in Montreal back 12-15 years ago where the top guy at the SPCA was paying himself $150,000 a year and had all sorts of perks from the organization. When this was found out he resigned and registered SPCA.CA and collected money from across Canada. It was not clear that this organization even had a compound for animals.

There was a dirtbag biker type that collected donations for a Toys for Tots, after he paid himself and family members there was less than 10% left for toys. Most of the toys were donated so he only had to deliver the toys. He also bought a customized van and a crew cab pick-up truck for organizational use.
She was just a kid when she started doing this. A kid with aspergers who was very focused.
Its just greenwashing to try to claim it was about money at this point.
 

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If you compare the fuel used when a car has one passenger vs. two passengers, the fuel consumption increase is minimal and does not double. The greatest mass in a plane or car is the vehicle itself and not the passengers.
I am not arguing which has the greatest mass. You claimed that there is no difference in fuel consumption when another person boards a plane. Sorry, but that is just not true. If what you said was true, then perpetual motion machines would exist. They don't and never will.....
 

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I wonder if her intensions are entirely unselfish. I have no proof and am not saying that she is doing this purely for personal gain but there have been many examples of people that are the heads of organizations that profit greatly.

There was a case in Montreal back 12-15 years ago where the top guy at the SPCA was paying himself $150,000 a year and had all sorts of perks from the organization. When this was found out he resigned and registered SPCA.CA and collected money from across Canada. It was not clear that this organization even had a compound for animals.

There was a dirtbag biker type that collected donations for a Toys for Tots, after he paid himself and family members there was less than 10% left for toys. Most of the toys were donated so he only had to deliver the toys. He also bought a customized van and a crew cab pick-up truck for organizational use.
You mention greed and profiting from their exploits. When she started doing it, she was a minor who probably knew nothing about the financial implications in anyway.
However, look at the Kyle Rittenhouse who killed two protesters, and severely injured another. He is being invited by the right wing organizations and NRA etc for funding events.
There it is all about raising money for Rittenhouse's own means. He knows that there are going to be quite a few lawsuits to contend with!!
 

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You mention greed and profiting from their exploits. When she started doing it, she was a minor who probably knew nothing about the financial implications in anyway.

Greta may or may not have known of the financial implications when she started out, but her parents probably did. She may be pocketing $100K, $150K a year as CEO of her ORG. A mighty tidy sum for her retirement. Her dad may be profiting as well. She may also be benefiting from perks paid for by the org. Her parent's probably knew that she would not have a normal like since she has been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism before her crusades.

Greta Thunberg uses the tools that politicians use. To speak out against climate change is to preach to the converted or to be for a matter that has no answer at this time as we do not even know if mankind can even reverse climate change. She spoke out against Andrew Tate, very few would side with Andrew. She just wanted to draw a crowd for her own personal gain. I would not be surprised if she has a team writing her script and she is just a figure head. They are careful not to attract powerful enemies like the Arabs and Russians. Why has she not criticized billionaires like flying in private jets.


I am not arguing which has the greatest mass. You claimed that there is no difference in fuel consumption when another person boards a plane. Sorry, but that is just not true. If what you said was true, then perpetual motion machines would exist. They don't and never will.....
Let me put it this way. If Greta Thunberg were to get on a commercial flight and brought several people with her her group would not even increase the fuel consumption anywhere near 1/10 of 1%. What is your estimate?
 

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Greta may or may not have known of the financial implications when she started out, but her parents probably did. She may be pocketing $100K, $150K a year as CEO of her ORG. A mighty tidy sum for her retirement. Her dad may be profiting as well. She may also be benefiting from perks paid for by the org. Her parent's probably knew that she would not have a normal like since she has been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism before her crusades.

Greta Thunberg uses the tools that politicians use. To speak out against climate change is to preach to the converted or to be for a matter that has no answer at this time as we do not even know if mankind can even reverse climate change. She spoke out against Andrew Tate, very few would side with Andrew. She just wanted to draw a crowd for her own personal gain. I would not be surprised if she has a team writing her script and she is just a figure head. They are careful not to attract powerful enemies like the Arabs and Russians. Why has she not criticized billionaires like flying in private jets.
'May'

You don't known.
Even if she makes money she's still doing good and spreading the message.
 
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'May'

You don't known.
Even if she makes money she's still doing good and spreading the message.
'May' = a possibility that she may or may not be a climate activist for selfish reasons and not because she really cares for the planet.
Her parents may be trying to give her a focus in life for their child that is handicapped with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism.

The other 'May' is that we are not sure if climate change can be reversed or reduced. All efforts may be futile. We do not know if climate change is a natural occurrence of cycles where the current inhabitants of earth become extinct in the future. Then eons will pass before new civilizations developed.
 

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Greta may or may not have known of the financial implications when she started out, but her parents probably did. She may be pocketing $100K, $150K a year as CEO of her ORG. A mighty tidy sum for her retirement. Her dad may be profiting as well. She may also be benefiting from perks paid for by the org. Her parent's probably knew that she would not have a normal like since she has been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism before her crusades.

Greta Thunberg uses the tools that politicians use. To speak out against climate change is to preach to the converted or to be for a matter that has no answer at this time as we do not even know if mankind can even reverse climate change. She spoke out against Andrew Tate, very few would side with Andrew. She just wanted to draw a crowd for her own personal gain. I would not be surprised if she has a team writing her script and she is just a figure head. They are careful not to attract powerful enemies like the Arabs and Russians. Why has she not criticized billionaires like flying in private jets.



Let me put it this way. If Greta Thunberg were to get on a commercial flight and brought several people with her her group would not even increase the fuel consumption anywhere near 1/10 of 1%. What is your estimate?
I don't need to estimate to know that the fuel consumption will be higher. It is called physics. The fact that you don't know is not my problem.....

Stop trying to distract me and make me believe that I am in the wrong. I am not.....
 

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If the success of Greta's campaign hinges on whether her warning
about climate change is spread to and agreed by the people in
power then it can be said that her mission has been more or less
accomplished in the western world. Pretty much all the leaders in
the democratic part of the world after Trump is on the side of Greta.
I believe even if the PC party wins the next election Trudeau's
zero-emission goal will remain in place.

Since Greta began her crusade some of world's wealthiest and
powerful businessman most notably Bill Gates, Larry Fink, Richard
Branson as well as myriads of celebrities from Hollywood movie
stars to Formula One racing champions have openly advocated
Greta's cause. By now I think it is safe to say all multinational
oil giants have officially accepted climate change to be a fact
and pledged zero emission. Our Climate minister ex-climate
lunatic Steven Guilbeault went on the trip to COP27 along with
oil business representatives and apparently had no qualms about
it. I think it is just a matter of time before Big Oil take over the
climate movement given that COP28 is to be hosted in the
United Arab Emirates.

Greta's dissenters are in general people of little influence like me poking
fun on her in the internet. With that in mind arguing about whether
climate change is real has little merit. Messages posted on a board
like TERB would not possibly make any impact on where our
leaders' climate policy is heading. For me the biggest concern is
how likely the climate movement inspired by Greta is
going to save the Earth from climate catastrophe.
 

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'May' = a possibility that she may or may not be a climate activist for selfish reasons and not because she really cares for the planet.
Her parents may be trying to give her a focus in life for their child that is handicapped with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism.

The other 'May' is that we are not sure if climate change can be reversed or reduced. All efforts may be futile. We do not know if climate change is a natural occurrence of cycles where the current inhabitants of earth become extinct in the future. Then eons will pass before new civilizations developed.
Exactly.

You are posting conjecture as if you think its real.
Like me saying 'ceiling cats post in red italics because they are all homicidal maniacs who only ever write anything with the blood of Italians'.
That's total conjecture appearing as if I thought it were true, except for me saying its total conjecture in this sentence.

Just admit that its only your opinion and you have no evidence to back it up.
 

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However, look at the Kyle Rittenhouse who killed two protesters, and severely injured another. He is being invited by the right wing organizations and NRA etc for funding events.
There it is all about raising money for Rittenhouse's own means. He knows that there are going to be quite a few lawsuits to contend with!!
Kyle took out two rioters that were trying to kill him. Nice try though distorting the facts though. That's why he was acquitted by a jury of his peers......
 

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Kyle took out two rioters that were trying to kill him. Nice try though distorting the facts though. That's why he was acquitted by a jury of his peers......
 

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We must watch this kid's every move with caution. Global
carbon emission has continued growing relentlessly with no
end in sight since Greta kick started the climate movement as
a 15 year old. Her influence will continue to be felt in world climate
politics for some more years.
 
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