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A good player, gets in on his 6th try with 76.3% of the vote, he needed 75%...a career .281 hitter with 319 HRs but 8 gold gloves.

I don't think I would have voted him in.
 

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Imagine if the Rock N' Roll hall of fame didn't allow you in on the suspicion of PEDs...there wouldn't be anybody inducted ever.
 

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The Rock N' Roll HOF is a shit show. Is Jethro Tull still not in?

Aqualung has long none of it's bite nor relevancy over the years. A semi- concept album that dealt with homelessness and the need for a God.

 
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Is Scott Rolen more HOF worthy than Keith Hernandez?
In his career, Hernandez was a five-time All-Star, a two-time World Series Champion (1982 and 1986), an 11-time Gold Glove winner, a two-time Silver Slugger winner, the 1979 NL batting champion, and the 1979 co-NL MVP. He also had four more seasons in which he finishes in the top 11 in NL MVP voting.
The Hall of Fame case for Cardinals, Mets legend Keith Hernandez (calltothepen.com)
Jerry And Elaine Date Keith Hernandez | The Boyfriend | Seinfeld - Bing video
 

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Is Scott Rolen more HOF worthy than Keith Hernandez?
In his career, Hernandez was a five-time All-Star, a two-time World Series Champion (1982 and 1986), an 11-time Gold Glove winner, a two-time Silver Slugger winner, the 1979 NL batting champion, and the 1979 co-NL MVP. He also had four more seasons in which he finishes in the top 11 in NL MVP voting.
The Hall of Fame case for Cardinals, Mets legend Keith Hernandez (calltothepen.com)
Jerry And Elaine Date Keith Hernandez | The Boyfriend | Seinfeld - Bing video
Could be argued that Rolen played the harder position.
 

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Ok, but Hernandez was on Seinfeld.

What would playing 1B do to Vladdy's HOF chances?
Well he was not really a top flight 3rd bagger now was he? Thus the move to first. Where he has excelled I might add.

Vladdy's problem will be longevity at that playing weight.
 
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There are lots of players who should be in before Scott Rolen...

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In 2009, the All Star game was played in St Louis. Albert Pujols, Jr, around 5 years old at the time, saw Scott Rolen in the clubhouse before the game, and said "What are YOU doing HERE?".
 

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There are lots of players who should be in before Scott Rolen...

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PED takers can have their own hall of fame.
 

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The Rock N' Roll HOF is a shit show. Is Jethro Tull still not in?

Aqualung has long none of it's bite nor relevancy over the years. A semi- concept album that dealt with homelessness and the need for a God.

Do you mean "Aqualung has LOST none of it's bite nor relevancy over the years"?
 

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The Rock N' Roll HOF is a shit show. Is Jethro Tull still not in?

Aqualung has long none of it's bite nor relevancy over the years. A semi- concept album that dealt with homelessness and the need for a God.

I worked at a day camp the year Aqualung came out.

IMO, the Rock and Roll Hall of fame is more significant than baseball's.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - Wikipedia
 

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IMO, the Rock and Roll Hall of fame is more significant than baseball's.
Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

I disagree shack, how legit can the RNR HOF when they allow Bon Hornswoggle Jovi in but not Jethro Tull? One band re-invented English Folk music, the other is strictly a fake money band, the product of saturation marketing. Why did Bongiovi suck Howard Stern's cock to get him to induct his band, is it because none of his peers would do it. Is Right Said Fred in the HOF, they never stole anyone else's music.

 

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Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

I disagree shack, how legit can the RNR HOF when they allow Bon Hornswoggle Jovi in but not Jethro Tull? One band re-invented English Folk music, the other is strictly a fake money band, the product of saturation marketing. Why did Bongiovi suck Howard Stern's cock to get him to induct his band, is it because none of his peers would do it. Is Right Said Fred in the HOF, they never stole anyone else's music.

I like Jethro Tull more than Bon Jovi, for sure....

Having said that, Bon Jovi has sold more records, has sold more concert tickets, has more fans and is more popular...

What about the Guess Who not being in?
 

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I like Jethro Tull more than Bon Jovi, for sure....

Having said that, Bon Jovi has sold more records, has sold more concert tickets, has more fans and is more popular...

What about the Guess Who not being in?
They were internationally insignificant (aside from American Woman and maybe These Eyes). They were a big deal here because they were a phenomenon being one of the 1st Canadian bands to have an international hit. 2 hits is not enough to get into the HOF.
 

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Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

I disagree shack, how legit can the RNR HOF when they allow Bon Hornswoggle Jovi in but not Jethro Tull? One band re-invented English Folk music, the other is strictly a fake money band, the product of saturation marketing. Why did Bongiovi suck Howard Stern's cock to get him to induct his band, is it because none of his peers would do it. Is Right Said Fred in the HOF, they never stole anyone else's music.

IV, there are these kinds of debates in every HOF about inequities. Why is this guy in the BBHOF but not that guy? Why is this band in but not that band?

In the meantime, music has an impact on more people's lives than baseball. That's why I said that it's HOF is more significant.

When I went, I saw Garth Hudson's (from The Band) organ. What a beast it was.

 
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They were internationally insignificant (aside from American Woman and maybe These Eyes). They were a big deal here because they were a phenomenon being one of the 1st Canadian bands to have an international hit. 2 hits is not enough to get into the HOF.
A lot of RRHOFers didn’t have one hit never mind two…
 
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