He was a tremendous player with a tremendous career.Brad Park.......
For some reason he never resonated with me accordingly.
I think maybe it was his poor showing in the 1972 Canada|/Soviet series that left a bad taste.
He was a tremendous player with a tremendous career.Brad Park.......
I appreciate you not getting hysterical about it, I'd also appreciate if you could make your own constructive arguments instead of citing other sources. Gum Worsley would never have become "Gump Worsley" unless he had gone to the Habs. He was an amazing goalie even with a garbage Rangers team but got his dues playing with a great team, you get my point?I'm not going to get all hysterical about it. Here is one list that has Savard ahead of Salming. Another list has Savard and Salming in a virtual tie.
The Best Defensemen in NHL History (ranker.com)
The Hockey News - Wikipedia
I love it.And by the way, this is a thread to honour Salming, why are you so compelled to prove your detractors right about you for hijacking every thread?
And Dan Marino was more talented than 90% of the quarterbacks who won a Superbowl.Just doing a bit of comparing Salming to some other NHL defensemen of his era.
As good as they are, Salming, Savard and Park never won the Norris.
I'd put Denis Potvin up there as well. He wasn't as flashy as the others, but he was a rock. Tough, strong, punishing and extremely consistent. He could also handle the puck. His career overlapped Orr and Robinson and he won more than his share of Norris awards.Trophies are hollow, Randy Carlyle won the Norris, not a chance in hell freezing over is he better than Borje the Giant. Only Orr, Robinson and Lidstrom are in Borje's class.
He was runner-up 6 times (to Orr or Potvin).Brad Park.......
Fran Tarkenton......BTW: Dan Marino is the best QB to never win the SB and better than some/many/most QB's who did win the SB.
Just doing a bit of comparing Salming to some other NHL defensemen of his era.
With all due respect to Salming, Serge Savard was the best defenseman to never win the Norris.
I see what you mean.Park and Savard each won one Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy.
NHL Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy Winners
Darn, forgot about him. I know that Peyton Manning and John Elway were also in the running for best QB never to win a SB until they did.Fran Tarkenton......
No? What about these posts and Joliet's Wikipedia page? They are clearly hijacking the thread. They have nothing to do with Salming or his contemporaries. Of course using your Bizarro logic, talking about any defenceman in the history of hockey would be on topic because Salming was a defenceman. And of course you chose a Montreal player, your standard operating procedure. Talking about Salming's contemporaries, like Savard, is more subtle but hijacking non the less.Comparing Salming to his contemporaries is not hijacking this thread.
I grimaced again when I saw that video. How could the Habs have allowed an 83 year old out on the ice with skates. He fell twice. Lucky he didn't break a hip. At his age a broken hip is a death sentence.
And asking about Leaf Norris winners is blatantly taking a shot at the Leafs and their fans.I'm always a bit worry when the teams bring out the old timers. He was in his 70's. I thought he risked breaking a hip when he fell (twice).
"In a 1985 Montreal Canadiens Old-Timers game, Joliat skated around the Montreal Forum to a huge ovation as a "special treat" for the fans. Despite falling twice over TV cables on the ice, he quickly stood up and finished his skate, the trademark black cap he wore back in his playing days held in his hand.[citation needed]"
Aurèle Joliat - Wikipedia
It appears no player won the Norris as a Maple Leaf.
Probably true. Best in Leaf history, although Tim Horton is also on Legends Row.Borje was the best Leaf defenceman in Leaf history.
The best defenseman the Leafs ever had never played defense for them........Red Kelly.Probably true. Best in Leaf history, although Tim Horton is also on Legends Row.
Some old timers might argue Red Horner, King Clancy and Hap Day.
Red Horner - Wikipedia
Kelly is also a Norris winner --- as a Red Wing.The best defenseman the Leafs ever had never played defense for them........Red Kelly.






