Trans teen Brian wins a Miss America title

[dirtyharry555]

But why does she have to define male and female when you were discussing the definition of man and woman?

As for your definition of "Man" and "Woman"

She doesn't have to. Sex and gender align for all but a minority. The distinction is irrelevant for our purposes.

The subject is a biological male, identifies as female, and is in competition with biological females. However you spin it, it's dumb.

this seems to imply that for Man and Woman, you only require 2/3 of the standard medical definition of male and female - which is why I'm pushing on you to clarify a bit. (because even that 2/3 is a bit vague depending on what you mean by "balls" here).

Oh, I'm sorry you don't know what I meant by "balls" in the definition so here you go: "an individual of the sex that is typically capable of producing small, usually motile gametes (such as sperm or spermatozoa) which fertilize the eggs of a female".

Give it a rest my dude.

 

[JuanGoodman]

 

[Valcazar]

She doesn't have to. Sex and gender align for all but a minority. The distinction is irrelevant for our purposes.

How much of a minority makes the distinction relevant?
What's your threshold for "there is no point in taking this minority into account"?

The subject is a biological male, identifies as female, and is in competition with biological females. However you spin it, it's dumb.

Why?
Is this a contest restricted to biological females?
If it isn't, why does this matter?
Maybe it is a contest restricted specifically to people who identify as female.

Oh, I'm sorry you don't know what I meant by "balls" in the definition so here you go: "an individual of the sex that is typically capable of producing small, usually motile gametes (such as sperm or spermatozoa) which fertilize the eggs of a female".

That's not a definition of "balls", though.

And if you wanted "balls" to be a stand in for "gamete type" (which sort of seems to be what you're implying here), why did you pair "balls" with "tits"?
Tits aren't gametes or the source of production of gametes.

Give it a rest my dude.

I thought you were interested in the biological definition of male and female in humans.
If you're not, you should just say so.

 

[dirtyharry555]

Don't overthink so much. It forces you to go off on a tangent and you lose the plot that way. That's how we got here in the first place.

 

[Valcazar]

OK.

So we won't overthink it and go with Vera's definition of "man" and "woman", which is simpler.

 

[dirtyharry555]

OK.

So we won't overthink it and go with Vera's definition of "man" and "woman", which is simpler.

I don't recall her defining either. If it means everything, it means nothing.

 

[onomatopoeia]

I can envision a day when young men competing in pageants intended for young women might become a prerequisite for pledges who want to join exclusive University fraternities, since the current members are no longer allowed to haze them with physically abusive entrance requirements.

 

[JuanGoodman]

 

[I'm still beautiful]

Shapiro for the W!!

 

[Mod99]

Folks - be civil, don't troll, or you may find you can't post for awhile.

 

[dirtyharry555]

We live in third wave feminism.

Sane women have left feminism for a while now.

Saw quite a bit of this here in terms of attitude. The combative, demeaning, aggressive, toxic, abusive, masculine style of unnamed poster(s) is extremely unattractive. It demonstrates weakness and unprofessionalism which are not winning strategies. Hope life works out for them.

 

[shack]

Than you are part of the problem cause trans aren’t women they are men dressed up as a women

So? Did being a trans give her an advantage?

 

[shack]

I took a big risk when I posted this thread.
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The definition of a profile in courage. We all owe you a debt of gratitude for patting yourself on the back for reminding us. LOL

 

[Darts]

In a Miss America contest a trans probably didn't have an advantage unless the judges are hardcore liberals.

This is unlike physical sports where a trans who was born male competes against natural born females.

 

[shack]

You have not answered my question. You have failed to define males and females.

That's a question that should be answered by a geneticist.

 

[Brill]

Saw quite a bit of this here in terms of attitude. The combative, demeaning, aggressive, toxic, abusive, masculine style of unnamed poster(s) is extremely unattractive. It demonstrates weakness and unprofessionalism which are not winning strategies. Hope life works out for them.

Women are allowed to be aggressive and combative when giving an opinion or defending one, it doesn’t make them less of a woman or unprofessional.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

The transwoman was named "Miss Greater Derry teen", which is a preliminary round to being chosen as Ms New Hampshire. It's a low level competition, albeit sponsored by the Miss America organization. I am guessing a nod to political correctness and inclusion and the winner will be eliminated in the next round having earned the parent organization a few brownie points for being pro social. Why anyone on TERB researches this shit so minutely and gets so offended by it, IDK.

In case you hadn't read the memo, being on Terb is called "wasting time". Harmless pursuit.

 

[dirtyharry555]

Women are allowed to be aggressive and combative when giving an opinion or defending one, it doesn’t make them less of a woman or unprofessional.

The posts in question were all deleted by the mods and for good reason.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

The transwoman was named "Miss Greater Derry teen", which is a preliminary round to being chosen as Ms New Hampshire. It's a low level competition, albeit sponsored by the Miss America organization. I am guessing a nod to political correctness and inclusion and the winner will be eliminated in the next round having earned the parent organization a few brownie points for being pro social. Why anyone on TERB researches this shit so minutely and gets so offended by it, IDK.

Look who's doing research now.

 

[bazokajoe]

Women are allowed to be aggressive and combative when giving an opinion or defending one, it doesn’t make them less of a woman or unprofessional.

Likewise for men.