friend’s wife’s bra

[Mandalorian]

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[star003]

There is a certain excitement in doing what is taboo. I can also understand the excitement of knowing that a particular bra/pair of panties has been in direct contact with an attractive woman’s recreational anatomy. From the standpoint of strictly polite society, the OP should have resisted the urge; however I can see how the two factors I listed above may have made resistance futile. For me the line between naughty deviate and really creepy would be how involved the undergarments were in the process. If it was all look and no touch, and all goods produced were neatly deposited in the porcelain bank, that’s a naughty deviate. If the clothing items were used to provide one degree of separation between Mr Happy and Ms Moist, or the OP added a little fabric softener to the items, well that is another story.

well articulated, highly intellectual and thoughtful response…

 

[Jenesis]

You know women are more accepting of men cheating as a society because that is what we expect as woman. I would never expect a man to be faithful because so many of you cheat.

But my SIL did just break up with a guy because she feels he is a douche and one of the reasons - this guy fucked one of his buddy’s GFs. She thought, like I do, that is low.

As strange as it sounds, we feel less about you fucking around on your wife then we do about you screwing over your friend by fucking his girl. If you can do that to a person who is suppose to be your friend, to be so disrespectful to him, then how can you have respect for her.

Men cheat. As women we know this. Personally if I’m in a relationship, I give loyalty and I want the same in return. I don’t think most men are capable of loyalty to a woman, I’m not wading through the waters to both finding out so I don’t date. I get my companionship and freedom and it is just better that way.

Again, this is not about jerking off. At least not for me. It is about the relationships the OP was disrespecting.

 

[rhuarc29]

Men cheat. As women we know this.

Oof....that's a rough outlook of us men.

It was months ago, but we were discussing cheating here with regards to its prevalence amongst the sexes, and a study was posted that showed the youngest adult demographic of men and women cheated at about the same rate. I'm not convinced it's a gender thing, but more so a societal thing, in that in years past it's been more acceptable for a man to cheat. The difference in acceptance has dissipated.

I think temptation exists for both sexes, and that temptation can be physical, emotional or both. The second is the more dangerous. Physical lust almost always fades and you can come to your senses and realize what you're doing is wrong. Emotional bonding though is another story, and ties you to the person. That's the whole point of the emotional bonding mechanism in humans. Affairs of the heart are always more dangerous than affairs of the body.

That said, I don't condone either. Maybe that makes me an anomaly as a man, but I find the OP's lack of respect for his wife even more disturbing than his lack of respect for his friend and his friend's wife. I understand forbidden fruit being exciting, and being aroused at the thought, but then to actually whack off in his friend's ensuite bathroom to his friend's wife's undergarments....fucked up.

 

[Jenesis]

Oof....that's a rough outlook of us men.

It was months ago, but we were discussing cheating here with regards to its prevalence amongst the sexes, and a study was posted that showed the youngest adult demographic of men and women cheated at about the same rate. I'm not convinced it's a gender thing, but more so a societal thing, in that in years past it's been more acceptable for a man to cheat. The difference in acceptance has dissipated.

I think temptation exists for both sexes, and that temptation can be physical, emotional or both. The second is the more dangerous. Physical lust almost always fades and you can come to your senses and realize what you're doing is wrong. Emotional bonding though is another story, and ties you to the person. That's the whole point of the emotional bonding mechanism in humans. Affairs of the heart are always more dangerous than affairs of the body.

That said, I don't condone either. Maybe that makes me an anomaly as a man, but I find the OP's lack of respect for his wife even more disturbing than his lack of respect for his friend and his friend's wife. I understand forbidden fruit being exciting, and being aroused at the thought, but then to actually whack off in his friend's ensuite bathroom to his friend's wife's undergarments....fucked up.

I’m not worried about women cheating so I wouldn’t care about their stats. That would be for you guys. Not me.

I think society, and myself included are just more forgiving of men cheating. Especially more so then women.

but this just shows you something - I didn’t even know, nor care if the OP was married. It was more about what he did to his “friend”, in his friends house, with his friends wife’s stuff. If you can do that to a friend, I don’t want you as an Enemy.

Then comes the outrage for the friends wive, her bra, her house. And then the OPs wife. in my order of thought for the people involved.

 

[black booty lover]

You know women are more accepting of men cheating as a society because that is what we expect as woman. I would never expect a man to be faithful because so many of you cheat.

But my SIL did just break up with a guy because she feels he is a douche and one of the reasons - this guy fucked one of his buddy’s GFs. She thought, like I do, that is low.

As strange as it sounds, we feel less about you fucking around on your wife then we do about you screwing over your friend by fucking his girl. If you can do that to a person who is suppose to be your friend, to be so disrespectful to him, then how can you have respect for her.

Men cheat. As women we know this. Personally if I’m in a relationship, I give loyalty and I want the same in return. I don’t think most men are capable of loyalty to a woman, I’m not wading through the waters to both finding out so I don’t date. I get my companionship and freedom and it is just better that way.

Again, this is not about jerking off. At least not for me. It is about the relationships the OP was disrespecting.

Your over thinking this IMO. This was one degree away from having a fantasy and jerking off to her at home. People have fantasies all the time that are immoral. Whether they act on them or to what degree is a different ball of wax. He rubbed one out to a piece of clothing in a room that's private, and used for all other bodily fluids to get deposited. Not like he hid a camera in the bedroom or something and planned this all out. He had an impulsive urge that wasn't going to harm anyone and was done in privacy.(be it someone else house, but non the less private) I understand it's a fine line, but in this case the line wasn't crossed. Had he stole the clothing, or went on a hunt in the bedroom for them, that would have been pretty creepy, but that's not what happened. He was innocently using the washroom, saw a piece of clothing that sparked an urge, figured he could take of the urge without being offensive or harming anyone.

 

[Jenesis]

Your over thinking this IMO. This was one degree away from having a fantasy and jerking off to her at home. People have fantasies all the time that are immoral. Whether they act on them or to what degree is a different ball of wax. He rubbed one out to a piece of clothing in a room that's private, and used for all other bodily fluids to get deposited. Not like he hid a camera in the bedroom or something and planned this all out. He had an impulsive urge that wasn't going to harm anyone and was done in privacy.(be it someone else house, but non the less private) I understand it's a fine line, but in this case the line wasn't crossed. Had he stole the clothing, or went on a hunt in the bedroom for them, that would have been pretty creepy, but that's not what happened. He was innocently using the washroom, saw a piece of clothing that sparked an urge, figured he could take of the urge without being offensive or harming anyone.

I disagree. I think you are under thinking, thinking only with your penis and not seeing the big picture. It is harmful. Not physically, but it is an invasion of privacy.

But we just have a different opinion is all. I am sure you would have no problem with your wife bringing over a gay couple, and one of those guys, going up to your private master bathroom, seeing your boxers, and jerking off to them and if that is true, you are a better man then most because if most men found that out, they would want to beat the ever living shit out of that guy.

 

[Brill]

You couldn’t look her in the eye when you returned to the game which indicates shame and some regret.
You could buy her a replacement bra, maybe some nice matching panties and apologize for your momentary lapse of judgment.
Her reaction will indicate if she was turned on, repulsed by the event or completely unaware.

Let us know what happens.

 

[black booty lover]

I disagree. I think you are under thinking, thinking only with your penis and not seeing the big picture. It is harmful. Not physically, but it is an invasion of privacy.

But we just have a different opinion is all. I am sure you would have no problem with your wife bringing over a gay couple, and one of those guys, going up to your private master bathroom, seeing your boxers, and jerking off to them and if that is true, you are a better man then most because if most men found that out, they would want to beat the ever living shit out of that guy.

But they didn't find out!!! That's the whole point! lol

He knew they would never know so it wouldn't harm them, which is why he didn't mind doing it. Again, it wasn't planned. He didn't say "okay, we're taking a break from the game, now's my chance to go up the master bedroom in hope's that (insert friend's wife name here) left a bra in there so I can rub one out". He simply went to use the bathroom, saw the bra, got an urge and said "fuck it! the only people that will ever know about this is the people on TERB". There was no invasion of privacy here. Literally would be no different he saw the bra and just peed in the toilet. It would have been the same outcome.

 

[Jenesis]

But they didn't find out!!! That's the whole point! lol

He knew they would never know so it wouldn't harm them, which is why he didn't mind doing it. Again, it wasn't planned. He didn't say "okay, we're taking a break from the game, now's my chance to go up the master bedroom in hope's that (insert friend's wife name here) left a bra in there so I can rub one out". He simply went to use the bathroom, saw the bra, got an urge and said "fuck it! the only people that will ever know about this is the people on TERB". There was no invasion of privacy here. Literally would be no different he saw the bra and just peed in the toilet. It would have been the same outcome.

I’m not an “ignorance is bliss” type person.

Lack of knowledge of the invasion does not negate the act of the invasion.

You murder a homeless person that no one goes looking for doesn’t negate the fact that you are a murderer.

i have more in case the murder is too extreme.

Just because your wife doesn’t know you are cheating, doesn’t negate the fact that you are a cheater

Just because you get away with stealing from the store, doesn’t negate the fact that you are thief.

See the pattern?

 

[black booty lover]

I’m not an “ignorance is bliss” type person.

Lack of knowledge of the invasion does not negate the act of the invasion.

You murder a homeless person that no one goes looking for doesn’t negate the fact that you are a murderer.

Then I don't think you know what "invasion of privacy" means.

For all intensive purposes, all he did was commit a private act, in private.

 

[Jenesis]

Then I don't think you know what "invasion of privacy" means.

It doesn’t mean that you invade someone’s privacy? What does it mean then?

Her underwear are her private items. Their master bathroom is their private personal bathroom, their house is their private home. How is doing things that would go against their wishes with their private things, not an invasion of their privacy? What would you call it?

Also remember, I don’t care about the act - it is the disrespect. What he did, in my mind, was disrespectful. If you are good with guys, straight, bi or gay - jerking off in your master bathroom, while your downstairs, with your underwear- that’s you. BYW - you never did answer, are you ok with a gay guy jerking off to your boxers in your master bathroom? I mean it is just a private act after all, right? I would really like an answer to that

 

[black booty lover]

It doesn’t mean that you invade someone’s privacy? What does it mean then?

Her underwear are her private items. Their master bathroom is their private personal bathroom, their house is their private home. How is doing things that would go against their wishes with their private things, not an invasion of their privacy? What would you call it?

Also remember, I don’t care about the act - it is the disrespect. What he did, in my mind, was disrespectful. If you are good with guys, straight, bi or gay - jerking off in your master bathroom, while your downstairs, with your underwear- that’s you. BYW - you never did answer, are you ok with a gay guy jerking off to your boxers in your master bathroom?

Your blurring the lines between invasion of privacy and committing a immoral act. If you don't like him because what you think he did was immoral, that's a different conversation.

He was an invited guest, used the bathroom, and committed a private act in private. That's what bathrooms are. They private places for us to do our private things. This bathroom happened to be located in another house, but it's still a place we do our private acts, pee, poo and some other bodily fluids. That was no intent, and nor did he do anything with her private stuff that would have consequences.

Not sure what else to tell you.

 

[Jenesis]

Your blurring the lines between invasion of privacy and committing a immoral act. If you don't like him because what you think he did was immoral, that's a different conversation.

He was an invited guest, used the bathroom, and committed a private act in private. That's what bathrooms are. They private places for us to do our private things. This bathroom happened to be located in another house, but it's still a place we do our private acts, pee, poo and some other bodily fluids. That was no intent, and nor did he do anything with her private stuff that would have consequences.

Not sure what else to tell you.

So you would have no problem with a gay man doing the same in your bathroom to your boxers in your house while you are downstairs hosting a party? You’re cool with that? Whether you know after the fact or not?

I highly doubt it as you have avoided the question twice now.

You also didn’t define what is an Invasion of privacy when it has involved other peoples private property. A private act in a private bathroom is not all that happened here, other peoples personal belongings were involved, making it an invasion.

But answer the gay question - honestly if you can

 

[black booty lover]

So you would have no problem with a gay man doing the same in your bathroom to your boxers in your house while you are downstairs hosting a party? You’re cool with that? Whether you know after the fact or not?

I highly doubt it as you have avoided the question twice now.

You also didn’t define what is an Invasion of privacy when it has involved other peoples private property. A private act in a private bathroom is not all that happened here, other peoples personal belongings were involved, making it an invasion.

But answer the gay question - honestly if you can

The reason I don't answer the question is it's irrelevant. Your bringing up this hypothetical scenario asking if "I knew this happened". We could play that game all day long. The "if someone knew" game , but to satisfy you, here's my answer:

I have no idea if a gay man has ever jerked of to me in a bathroom because he saw my boxers, a pic of me.. or anything else that would give him the urge. I sure as hell would be flattered if I found out a female did it. If this has ever happened, they have never told me, and they must have done in private knowing I'll never find out because they committed the act in private with confidence I wouldn't find out. If my boxer's were stolen or they had semen all over them, yes I would want to beat the shit out of the guy.

I already explained the definition of invasion of privacy to you. There has to be intent to invade the privacy (which there wasn't) or recklessness (which there also wasn't seeing as it was done in a private bathroom that nobody would ever find out other then him posting on anonymous escort review board).

 

[S416905]

I’ve sniffed my wife’s sisters panties when she left her overnight bag at our house. Am I a creep?

 

[black booty lover]

I’ve sniffed my wife’s sisters panties when she left her overnight bag at our house. Am I a creep?

In a word, yes and that's definitely an invasion of privacy.

 

[Jenesis]

The reason I don't answer the question is it's irrelevant. Your bringing up this hypothetical scenario asking if "I knew this happened". We could play that game all day long. The "if someone knew" game , but to satisfy you, here's my answer:

I have no idea if a gay man has ever jerked of to me in a bathroom because he saw my boxers, a pic of me.. or anything else that would give him the urge. I sure as hell would be flattered if I found out a female did it. If this has ever happened, they have never told me, and they must have done in private knowing I'll never find out because they committed the act in private with confidence I wouldn't find out. If my boxer's were stolen or they had semen all over them, yes I would want to beat the shit out of the guy.

I already explained the definition of invasion of privacy to you. There has to be intent to invade the privacy (which there wasn't) or recklessness (which there also wasn't seeing as it was done in a private bathroom that nobody would ever find out other then him posting on anonymous escort review board).

Yeah we are going to have to agree to disagree. You won’t answer because in my opinion, you don’t want to admit you would have issue with it.

I’m moving on now.

 

[dirtyharry555]

You are a sexual deviant!

It's what happens when you grow up in the modern world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585242241446338560

 

[John Wick]

It's what happens when you grow up in the modern world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585242241446338560

The look on the kid's face is all anyone needs to know about appropriateness of adult behaviour in the presence of children. Some adults will just never fucking get it.