Why men eschew marriage in 2022

[dirtyharry555]

so do you reckon it's best to go overseas and bring a woman over or wait until somebody brings her over and she divorces him and then meet her when she has his money and knows how to drive and speaks English?

It's best to have a place overseas where she's from. Buying a place there is cheap, relatively speaking.

Once a woman lands in Canada she becomes infected with the disease of radical feminism. Femininity, kindness, and nurturing is replaced with masculinity, paranoia, depression, hatefulness, and promiscuity.

I'm all for empowerment of people however 9 times out of 10 when you're dealing with a "strong independent woman" you're dealing with someone that has the mentality of a man even though they were born with a vagina. A huge turn-off. Only one man is ideal in a union.

 

[Leimonis]

It's best to have a place overseas where she's from. Buying a place there is cheap, relatively speaking.

Once a woman lands in Canada she becomes infected with the disease of radical feminism. Femininity, kindness, and nurturing is replaced with masculinity, paranoia, depression, hatefulness, and promiscuity.

so your plan is to have your kids raised in a third world country to make sure that their mother is obedient feminine?

 

[Soccersweeper]

As stated before, men and women are different. For example, men who are able to sleep around are seen by men and women as more desirable, while women who sleep around are seen by men and women as less desirable.

Why?

1. Because a woman's value is wrapped up in her physical beauty and giving herself away to many men means that she doesn't value herself and/or lacks foresight.

2. It takes tremendous skill for a man to sleep around whereas a woman just has to open her legs and hundreds of dicks will come running to fill her up.

3. When women have sex, they're emotionally invested in doing so whereas men can have lots of sex with lots of women without any emotional connection. In other words, a man cheating with a woman is rarely the same as a woman cheating with men.

“'A key that opens many locks is a good key, a lock that opens for any key is a bad lock."




It's not attention that he seeks. It's sexual release. And yes men and women have starkly different needs with respect to that. The oldest profession exists for that reason.



You're comparing men and women as though they're the same when in fact they're like apples and oranges.

What do women want from men? Strength, protection, status, finances, intellect.

What do men want from women? Femininity, kindness, loyalty, support, non-promiscuity, and submissiveness.

When modern women sell themselves to men in conversation they hype up their educational credentials and job. Yet most men couldn't care less about any of that. A woman can be broke, a high-school dropout, and jobless, yet a man can love her and settle down with her if she possesses the traits mentioned above. This would be undesirable and unacceptable the other way around for most women. What men look for in women is different from what women look for in men.

Slow clap. Cheers.

 

[dirtyharry555]

so your plan is to have your kids raised in a third world country to make sure that their mother is obedient feminine?

Yes. That way my kids will grow up with a fine education, in a complimentary cooperative happy household, and won't suffer from the mental (and physical) illness pandemics of my home country. In other words, they'll be the well adjusted kids that used to be the norm here.

 

[angrymime666]

You missed the point. It is not the only meme that can be made about marriage. We could have one about drunk dads beating their wives and how they have to use places like shelters to get away.

Every story is one sided when presented this way.

I thought the point was what happens to a guy when he gets divorced. if there is another point please enlighten me.

yes this is one side of the story, but its a story that many men who go through divorce live. there are many stories as I stated in my first reply, but this story rings true for a majority of men.

my point is and was that there are many sides to the marriage coin and why people divorce. most men go through the twitter story as indicated in the stats. the other stories represent a much much smaller percentage. the other stories happen just not at the rate as the twitter story.

for the most part, men just want to have a family and take care of them. I think there has been a negative stigma put on men that we overwhelmingly cheat, beat and etc. those things do happen ;but I would say its relatively low, but that stigma doesnt not represent men overall very well. its toxic.

 

[xix]

so do you reckon it's best to go overseas and bring a woman over or wait until somebody brings her over and she divorces him and then meet her when she has his money and knows how to drive and speaks English?

I know someone like that, but this is a special circumstance. I will not go into details but the woman had an advantage after the death of the 1st husband. If it had been like the rest of the population... I am sure she would have been married by now or trying to get a better job than the minimum wage she has now. She like to spend big to look big or status quote/symbol.

 

[RZG]

In `22 marriage is a very risky game for a man, financial disaster is a real possibility. Our family law system does not favor men, prenup often means little. Google Michael Latner to see how things can go...he wasn`t even married. Women begin a relationship with the end in mind, there is always a plan. Many men now are unwilling to be complicit in that plan, not to be a participant or functionary in their own suffering. Regarding MGTOW, look at it in the context as a warning to men, a cautionary tale, you can love women or understand them, but not both. Kinda` like the cheaters and the hammer or the money scene in Casino. Pay attention or fuck around and find out type of message. I was married and divorced long ago, gotta` love a marriage discussion on a forum dedicated to renting a woman for sex.

 

[jeff2]

In `22 marriage is a very risky game for a man, financial disaster is a real possibility. Our family law system does not favor men, prenup often means little. Google Michael Latner to see how things can go...he wasn`t even married. Women begin a relationship with the end in mind, there is always a plan. Many men now are unwilling to be complicit in that plan, not to be a participant or functionary in their own suffering. Regarding MGTOW, look at it in the context as a warning to men, a cautionary tale, you can love women or understand them, but not both. Kinda` like the cheaters and the hammer or the money scene in Casino. Pay attention or fuck around and find out type of message. I was married and divorced long ago, gotta` love a marriage discussion on a forum dedicated to renting a woman for sex.

Women consider the majority of men to be undateable. Some alpha males can take a chance and hope they do not get taken to the cleaners.

 

[dirtyharry555]

I feel for women in the West, too. They're in the workforce working side-by-side with men in a competitive environment. They've had to take on masculine traits to find success in the modern world.

But masculine traits are not something men cherish in women when it comes to intimate relationships.

 

[ziprogers]

(hold my beer)

If anything, this thread is damn entertaining. So here's my trolling comment. If I'm lucky, we get some fireworks. Worst case scenario, I get banned.

Something we all fail to ignore is that despite all the socially acceptable norms, the questionable statistics, and emotional pros and cons, men need women and women need men. If for nothing, it's for our primary purpose of ensuring the survival of our species.

Everything else revolves around hubris, power over another, and that natural want of belonging. Incels/MGTOW and modern feminism are nothing new in this world; just another label of ideological beliefs that will be sold as a whole new paradigm after we're all long dead and gone. Both groups don't actually care so much about their beliefs as much as they want to feel that they are right, but instead of having a conversation to come to an a mutually beneficial agreement, they scream that life is a zero-sum game or appeal to the lonely and broken by offering a tribal echo chamber to join in on. So despite their genders, neither are really at opposing sides to each other.

You know who is on the other side - those of us who produce. Who create a net gain for Team Humans. Who make others feel better about themselves. Who leaves things better that they found 'em. Who fuck for fun and have children.

Gasp! You can do both??

Abso-fucking-lutely! Gimme my beer back and watch me.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

International flights are cheap these days, millions of young beautiful thin women out there who would be very happy with living a north american middle class lifestyle.

What exactly is a "North American lifestyle"? Lifestyles in Canada, the USA, Mexico, Cuba, Barbados, Greenland and the Dominican Republic are all extremely different.

 

[rhuarc29]

But masculine traits are not something men cherish in women when it comes to intimate relationships.

I don't think women are having a hard time attracting men. It's the other way around.
Men are feeling lonely, women are feeling empowered.

The issue doesn't lie in women being empowered, like you seem to be suggesting. I think the issue lies in how men and women have been taught to interact with the opposite sex. Women are taught not to settle, that they are worth so much. Men are taught to treat women like princesses, because men are worthless. It's never right to put someone on a pedestal above you, nor put yourself on a pedestal above them, for the sheer sake of their sex. If you want to see men falling into this trap, just go to a camsite, or even Twitter. Endless gushing, and money throwing, and it gets them nowhere, because obsessive, one-sided fawning isn't an attractive trait. It's just what they've been taught to do.

A healthy relationship has to be on even ground, and it just feels like there's a disconnect between the sexes in Western society these days.

 

[bazokajoe]

I look at marriage this way. Will marriage improve the quality of my life? Highly unlikely.
So marriage is a definite no go for me.