USSC strikes down Roe v Wade
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Do you know why Cruz and his cohorts lie? Because it works.
"Democrats we call your bluff! Voting Blue is not enough!"
Chanted at Beto O'Rourke in Texas.
Nancy reads a poem, Kamala tweets from a private plane, and Joe sends out a fundraiser email asking 15 bucks because they need a majority. When they had one and failed.
That's their strategy on this. That's all they have. Despite knowing about the coordination on the right to get to this. A complete failure.
Chanted at Beto O'Rourke in Texas.
Nancy reads a poem, Kamala tweets from a private plane, and Joe sends out a fundraiser email asking 15 bucks because they need a majority. When they had one and failed.
That's their strategy on this. That's all they have. Despite knowing about the coordination on the right to get to this. A complete failure.
Yep especially AFTER Trump told them this was his goal. As always, they had million excuses why he couldn't do it, but Trump, in his usual fashion, just went ahead and did it.
The point of Miami Elektra's post was that Trump was once pro-choice. My point is that is not unusual to see a politician change his position. The youtube clip has the Biden position flip in the heading. That's all.
It was 50 years in the making. The Federalist Society, Catholic lobbyists, evangelical groups. All working together to sway candidates, vett them in primaries, keep the pressure on. And fundraise. Then get judges vetted and appointed. Trump getting three as a malable dupe was the icing on the cake along with the 3 appointments.
And the so called savior Mike Pence has called for a national ban. This is the guy theyvwanted to put in. They anti abortion activists aren't stopping.
Meanwhile the Dems pandered to woke politics, didn't even try to codify it with a super majority, but instead used it as a fundraiser and fear mongering tool instead of solving it. Abd it has now blown up in their faces. They are completely disorganized, have zero plan, and zero options.
And now they expect people to believe they can fix it?
All I mean is that Trump's a doer. Presidents made moving the embassy to Jerusalem part of their platforms for decades only to back down under pressure. Not Trump, he just went ahead and did it. And it's true that there has been a lot of TALK about reversing Roe, and especially the Republican establishment loves to talk....until they get elected. Then, all of a sudden they become pragmatic and more "electable " and accomplish very little in the end.
Play that argument out to its conclusion. What if doctors say - "I'll perform this life saving abortion, but I'll only do it for a hundred billion dollars!" Are governments compelled to commit that amount of resources to one particular healthcare issue? Can doctors be forced to perform the life saving operation, at any price, if they haven't agreed to do so? How do you avoid making doctors into slaves?
I take it that "fairly good" means "less than good".
I don't believe that the constitutional right to life, liberty and security of the person entitles citizens to whatever heathcare they might want (or need) regardless of the cost, for the reason so clearly illustrated above.
But your example isn't realistic. Doctors do not charge a million $$$ to perform abortions and there's no reason to expect that they will, nor that their ethical / professional regime would ever conceivably allow them to extort money for one specific procedure.
Come up with something a little less silly.
The exaggeration was to make the point, a point that I don't think was lost on you, which is why you didn't even try to respond to it.
The point is - medical procedures can't be rights, unless you can force doctors to perform them at a price you/your government can afford. Since slavery is illegal, it can't be done. Simple as that.
Trump got nothing done. One bill to lower taxes for billionaires. A few executive orders that put cronies in place. Mitch got the judges in, not rump.
Jerusalem? All that did was make the 4 major reports on Israeli apartheid all that much more necessary to become public, once you get the US entrenching the colonization.
I do think you are wrong. To become a doctor you have to adhere to a code of ethics medical. So they won't work if they do not provide the care. And hospitals have a legal duty to provide care.
A medical procedure can be a right.
It's a patient that has the right to refuse care.
ROTFLMFAO! He kept inflation under 2%, gas around $2 and crazies around the world in their holes. Oh, and he delivered for his voters on most promises. Joe? Fail on all counts.
Only by overseeing the biggest job losses and economic decline in the US since the depression.
Are you really bragging about his economy through covid?
wow.
Are you enjoying Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony today?
Trump and Meadows should start packing for a long stay at court and then prison.
I feel the same way about gun rights, gun rights can not be a right unless the government can force gun makers to sell guns at a price you/your government can afford.
We do that already. Every proceedure has a price on it determined by the govt. On fact a war between doctors and the Ontario govt over extra billing occured and was lost.
No we don't expect every doctor to do them. There is no need. We have doctors volunteering to.
