USSC strikes down Roe v Wade

[Claudia Love]

here's trump saying he's pro choice ---this guy is a total lying sack of shit

 

[Frankfooter]

See that was funny Frank. Did you check out "How To Be Witty and Clever on Social Media" from the local library?

Repeating something someone posted back at them is kind of silly.

Why would I get my jokes from the library?
How old are you, 85?

 

[jcpro]

In the US it's a bit worst because they only have 2 side. It has become to the point you are either a left libtard or a dump racist republican.

Not much in between.

In canada we do not have such extreme polarization.

Wait until the end of the year. If PP wins the CPC leadership race you will see shit in Canada you've never seen before. It's gonna be the TDS Canadian style.

 

[Czar]

Nolte: 11 Ways Democrats Helped Overturn Roe v. Wade

Let’s count the ways, shall we…

1. Harry Reid

How do we even begin to thank the late Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) for ending the filibuster?

Harry ended the filibuster in 2013 so Barry Obama could fill the courts with fascist radicals. This act ensured then-President Trump could get his trifecta of perfect Supreme Court justices over the finish line. If Reid had not killed the filibuster, at least two of those three (Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett) would have been non-starters, and Roe v. Wade would still be the law of the land.
Thank you, Harry!

How ironic for the left. They are so all consuming power hungry that as soon as they get the opportunity, the do their best to get rid of the filibuster, which was designed to keep power hungry groups on the left and right from being able to steamroller over the rest of the population with only a bit of a majority.

They got rid of the filibuster in some circumstances under Harry Reid resulting in the republicans being the ones who benefitted the most. Yet they still didn't learn their lesson and were pushing for the last couple of years to get rid of the filibuster in congress in order to steamroll over all Americans with a 50/50 senate.

So it turns out that their overwhelming desire to steamroll over everybody when nowhere near a majority of people elected them into power ended up allowing Kavanaugh and Barrett to get onto the court when it could have been a situation where a compromise candidate would have been the only option(or even nobody if no compromise could be made).

Now you see what happens when you get greedy. You lose your cherished policies.

Once again, I suggest the moderate left ditch the disgusting woke left in order to be respectable enough to eventually be able to implement moderate center of left policies someday in the distant future. Stick with far left woke and you are going to be stuck far out in left field.

 

[WyattEarp]

Why would I get my jokes from the library?
How old are you, 85?

Young enough to use the internet.
Old enough to know not to take jokes literally.

 

[mandrill]

I noted very recently that "abortion battles will occur in the suburbs of Dallas, Houston, Atlanta and Charlotte.........suburban American voters are very pragmatic and adept at sorting out issues. They will support many conservative issues and then support liberal issues when they feel the need arises." Suburban Republicans have been divided on abortion for some time.
These predicted great shifts in the American polity are generally fleeting if not entirely illusory.

Well, we'll see. But I suspect that most of them are smart enough to know that something nasty and unprecedented has occurred. Stacking a Supreme Court bench is one thing. Stacking a bench with judges who make absolutely no effort to be judicial is another. And stacking a bench with judges who are openly political and espouse an extreme and non mainstream viewpoint is the sort of thing that going to get through to folks who are ordinarily not political and scare and disturb them to the point that they're going to start watching the news and talking about it.

It's not just the impact on the availability of abortion. I suspect that abortion isn't that available in most red states in any event. It's the lack of "judiciality" and the hint that the established and comfortable order of things has just been kicked apart.

Judges rarely over-rule precedent. And when they do, it's more like tinkering than clearly over-ruling. And it's normally done with a veneer of respect to the prior decision and bench. When it's a clear political attack on a 50 year old landmark decision, that's crazy shit. That has NEVER happened in any Commonwealth country. EVER.

When the civil rights decisions over-ruled Jim Crow, those decisions were accompanied by a wide consensus outside the South that shit had changed and society had moved on. There were probably social science articles and learned discussions that circulated in the years prior to those cases being decided. Dobbs is accompanied by NONE of that. It's clearly just a power play by a faction that had gamed a flawed political system and embedded itself in one of the seats of power by lying and cheating. And the added obscenity of the situation is that it had gained control for political ends of an institution that is inherently supposed to be above politics and which is thus not politically accountable.

It's the ultimate betrayal of society's trust.

Anyone with half a brain - and most suburbans have that - will know what's taken place and will register disapproval.

 

[jcpro]

How ironic for the left. They are so all consuming power hungry that as soon as they get the opportunity, the do their best to get rid of the filibuster, which was designed to keep power hungry groups on the left and right from being able to steamroller over the rest of the population with only a bit of a majority.

They got rid of the filibuster in some circumstances under Harry reid and still didn't learn their lesson and were pushing for the last couple of years to get rid of the filibuster in congress in order to steamroll over all Americans with a 50/50 senate.

So it turns out that their overwhelming desire to steamroll over everybody when nowhere near a majority of people elected them into power ended up allowing Kavanaugh and Barrett to get onto the court when it could have been a situation where a compromise candidate would have been the only option(or even nobody if no compromise could be made).

Now you see what happens when you get greedy. You lose your cherished policies.

Once again, i suggest the moderate left ditch the disgusting woke left in order to be respectable enough to eventually be able to implement moderate centrist policies. Stick with far left woke and you are going to be stuck far out in left field.

It was a stupid, stupid and very shortsighted move. The American system has been designed for broad consensus or gridlock in the absence of consensus. Screwing around with checks and balances (long established norms) leads to unpredictable consequences. However, the lesson has not been learned judging by Nancy rejecting Republicans for the Jan. 6 circus and she'll pay the price in 2023.

 

[WyattEarp]

Wait until the end of the year. If PP wins the CPC leadership race you will see shit in Canada you've never seen before. It's gonna be the TDS Canadian style.

I thought the TERB political forum was TDS Canadian style.
Apparently, all us Republicans are palingenetic ultranationalists.

 

[mandrill]

Young enough to use the internet.
Old enough to know not to take jokes literally.

 

[mandrill]

I thought the TERB political forum was TDS Canadian style.
Apparently, all us Republicans are palingenetic ultranationalists.

 

[jcpro]

I thought the TERB political forum was TDS Canadian style.
Apparently, all us Republicans are palingenetic ultranationalists.

LOL! And I'm not even "right wing" let alone any kind of fascist. But, that's where we are- if you disagree with me, clearly, you're a fascist or racist, etc.

 

[WyattEarp]

Well, we'll see. But I suspect that most of them are smart enough to know that something nasty and unprecedented has occurred. Stacking a Supreme Court bench is one thing. Stacking a bench with judges who make absolutely no effort to be judicial is another. And stacking a bench with judges who are openly political and espouse an extreme and non mainstream viewpoint is the sort of thing that going to get through to folks who are ordinarily not political and scare and disturb them to the point that they're going to start watching the news and talking about it.

It's not just the impact on the availability of abortion. I suspect that abortion isn't that available in TX in any event. It's the lack of "judiciality" and the hint that the established and comfortable order of things has just been kicked apart.

Judges rarely over-rule precedent. And when they do, it's more like tinkering than clearly over-ruling. And it's normally done with a veneer of respect to the prior decision and bench. When it's a clear political attack on a 50 year old landmark decision, that's crazy shit. That has NEVER happened in any Commonwealth country. EVER.

When the civil rights decisions over-ruled Jim Crow, those decisions were accompanied by a wide consensus outside the South that shit had changed and society had moved on. There were probably social science articles and learned discussions that circulated in the years prior to those cases being decided. Dobbs is accompanied by NONE of that. It's clearly just a power play by a faction that had gamed a flawed political system and embedded itself in one of the seats of power by lying and cheating. And the added obscenity of the situation is that it had gained control for political ends of an institution that is inherently supposed to be above politics and which is thus not politically accountable.

It's the ultimate betrayal of society's trust.

Anyone with half a brain - and most suburbans have that - will know what's taken place and will register disapproval.

I don't think abortion rights elicit the EMOTIONALLY CHARGED RESPONSE with most American voters that you have projected. Other than the few voters who are really committed to unequivocal access or an outright ban, there is probably not the political zeal for this issue you crave.

 

[mandrill]

I don't think abortion rights elicit the EMOTIONALLY CHARGED RESPONSE with most American voters that you have projected. Other than the few voters who are really committed to unequivocal access or an outright ban, there is probably not the political zeal for this issue you crave.

I think you missed the point of my post. Maybe it slipped past your intellectual palingeneticism.

 

[WyattEarp]

here's trump saying he's pro choice ---this guy is a total lying sack of shit

Doesn't the header of this video indicate NBC news notes that Biden didn't always support Roe vs. Wade? That's the difficult thing with politics and politicians. They change their positions as their "tribe" changes. It's never as black and white as some might hope.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't think abortion rights elicit the EMOTIONALLY CHARGED RESPONSE with most American voters that you have projected. Other than the few voters who are really committed to unequivocal access or an outright ban, there is probably not the political zeal for this issue you crave.

There are way more people on the streets protesting choice then attacked the capitol on Jan 6.
BLM and climate change protests also were incredibly massive compared to right wing 'freedumb' protests.

 

[Frankfooter]

Well, we'll see. But I suspect that most of them are smart enough to know that something nasty and unprecedented has occurred. Stacking a Supreme Court bench is one thing. Stacking a bench with judges who make absolutely no effort to be judicial is another. And stacking a bench with judges who are openly political and espouse an extreme and non mainstream viewpoint is the sort of thing that going to get through to folks who are ordinarily not political and scare and disturb them to the point that they're going to start watching the news and talking about it.

It's not just the impact on the availability of abortion. I suspect that abortion isn't that available in most red states in any event. It's the lack of "judiciality" and the hint that the established and comfortable order of things has just been kicked apart.

Judges rarely over-rule precedent. And when they do, it's more like tinkering than clearly over-ruling. And it's normally done with a veneer of respect to the prior decision and bench. When it's a clear political attack on a 50 year old landmark decision, that's crazy shit. That has NEVER happened in any Commonwealth country. EVER.

When the civil rights decisions over-ruled Jim Crow, those decisions were accompanied by a wide consensus outside the South that shit had changed and society had moved on. There were probably social science articles and learned discussions that circulated in the years prior to those cases being decided. Dobbs is accompanied by NONE of that. It's clearly just a power play by a faction that had gamed a flawed political system and embedded itself in one of the seats of power by lying and cheating. And the added obscenity of the situation is that it had gained control for political ends of an institution that is inherently supposed to be above politics and which is thus not politically accountable.

It's the ultimate betrayal of society's trust.

Anyone with half a brain - and most suburbans have that - will know what's taken place and will register disapproval.

Even crazier, one of those SC judge's wife was instrumental in trying to plan and operate a coup against the elected government.
That's the craziest shite I've hear of from a judge.

Even crazier than this lawyer

Ohio Supreme Court suspends license of lawyer with history of public nudity

The\u00a0Ohio Supreme Court\u00a0indefinitely suspended a Hamilton lawyer after he repeatedly exposed himself to other drivers on interstates.

www.cincinnati.com

Or this GOP senate candidate.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540554777515491328

 

[WyattEarp]

There are way more people on the streets protesting choice then attacked the capitol on Jan 6.
BLM and climate change protests also were incredibly massive compared to right wing 'freedumb' protests.

You are correct. The numbers of people out protesting the election on January 6 weren't that large.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are correct. The numbers of people out protesting the election on January 6 weren't that large.

Yes, the coup attempt was an attack by a fringe of white supremacists, fake militia and people conned by rump. Fortunately there weren't that many of them.

 

[mandrill]

Doesn't the header of this video indicate NBC news notes that Biden didn't always support Roe vs. Wade? That's the difficult thing with politics and politicians. They change their positions as their "tribe" changes. It's never as black and white as some might hope.

Why would anyone care what Biden thought 30 years ago?

Repugs voted for Donno, despite him having a number of dubious qualities. Dems are going to have to drop the "100% morally pure" test and just get on board.

 

[VIPhunter]

You mean if the assholes were in charge.

Whatever.

My point, perhaps not well made, is that I don't buy the argument for one second that that abortion would be a sacrament if men got pregnant.

There are all kinds of morality police forces out there.


Sex work is still under the radar in North America.....why is that the case?