One of your easy arrests I'm sure...........
Toronto police chief to apologize to Black community as force unveils race-based data: sources
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One of your easy arrests I'm sure...........
Incredible video and one that most laypeople would never believe possible without seeing the video.
So a random guy pulls up to a cop and tries to kill him with an axe and gets shot and killed in the process? Yeah right! People aren't that stupid, crazy, and violent.
Yes, yes they are.
So a random guy pulls up to a cop and tries to kill him with an axe and gets shot and killed in the process? Yeah right! People aren't that stupid, crazy, and violent.
Yes, yes they are.
What about culture?
Culture is EVERYTHING. Its why immigrants do better than locals in many cases. It steers one's attitudes for life.
www.city-journal.org
www.baltimoresun.com
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The popularity of thug culture is among the most serious of modern-day threats to black America, far more dangerous than any lingering institutional racism. Its mores mimic prison culture: the ubiquitous droopy-pants-look drew its inspiration from jail procedures, where men are stripped of their belts upon arrest. It romanticizes casual violence, helping to ensure that black fratricide will go on unabated.
According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, black men are the likely perpetrators in more than 40 percent of the homicides in which a suspect has been identified. That's staggering - given that black men account for only about 6 percent of the population. But black men are their own worst enemies: They also account for about 40 percent of the nation's homicide victims.
No drumbeat or rhyme ever put a gun in anyone's hand. But some rap lyrics do make violence seem an assurance of manliness. Not only does much rap music (and I use the word "music" advisedly) glorify men who carry guns and intimidate or kill their foes, but some rap artists have engaged in actual violence. Some have gone to prison. Some are dead. Apparently, their close association with criminal activity gives them "street creds," making them more popular.
Yet few prominent black activists raise their voices against this insidious industry. You can count on the usual suspects to protest discrimination in housing or education or employment or even TV roles. But you cannot count on them to mount a vigorous assault on thug culture and the violence it perpetuates.
Now that a multibillion-dollar industry has grown up around thug culture, it will be very difficult to tamp down. Not only have a handful of black artists and producers become very wealthy, but so have many whites. Indeed, raunchy rap music sells well in affluent white suburbs, where teens may enjoy the vicarious thrill but are insulated from the real-life risks."
Culture is EVERYTHING. Its why immigrants do better than locals in many cases. It steers one's attitudes for life.
How Hip-Hop Holds Blacks Back
By teaching young blacks that a thuggish adversarial stance is the properly "authentic" response to a presumptively racist society, rap retards black success.
www.city-journal.org
Thug culture threatens the black community
ATLANTA — A black-oriented cable channel, BET, plans to air a new unscripted show celebrating Kimberly Jones – aka Lil’ Kim – for her crimes. Promotional ads for the show, C…
www.baltimoresun.com
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The popularity of thug culture is among the most serious of modern-day threats to black America, far more dangerous than any lingering institutional racism. Its mores mimic prison culture: the ubiquitous droopy-pants-look drew its inspiration from jail procedures, where men are stripped of their belts upon arrest. It romanticizes casual violence, helping to ensure that black fratricide will go on unabated.
According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, black men are the likely perpetrators in more than 40 percent of the homicides in which a suspect has been identified. That's staggering - given that black men account for only about 6 percent of the population. But black men are their own worst enemies: They also account for about 40 percent of the nation's homicide victims.
No drumbeat or rhyme ever put a gun in anyone's hand. But some rap lyrics do make violence seem an assurance of manliness. Not only does much rap music (and I use the word "music" advisedly) glorify men who carry guns and intimidate or kill their foes, but some rap artists have engaged in actual violence. Some have gone to prison. Some are dead. Apparently, their close association with criminal activity gives them "street creds," making them more popular.
Yet few prominent black activists raise their voices against this insidious industry. You can count on the usual suspects to protest discrimination in housing or education or employment or even TV roles. But you cannot count on them to mount a vigorous assault on thug culture and the violence it perpetuates.
Now that a multibillion-dollar industry has grown up around thug culture, it will be very difficult to tamp down. Not only have a handful of black artists and producers become very wealthy, but so have many whites. Indeed, raunchy rap music sells well in affluent white suburbs, where teens may enjoy the vicarious thrill but are insulated from the real-life risks."
I think one of the major problems in the black community are the number of one parent families, the mother is almost always the single parent. The genesis of this problem was actually created by white liberals and their "no man in the house or you don't get welfare" rule.
Toya Graham is mother of the century.
"You know the Baltimore mom who went to the riot, found her son and lit into him with her right hand? Well, Toya Graham said Tuesday she did it because she didn’t want her son to become another Freddie Gray. She also told CBS News that she’s a single mother of six who doesn’t play when it comes to her children."
Video shows Baltimore mom smack masked son over riots | CNN
White liberals do not understand nor care about the harm they have caused and are still causing the black community. Sorry to be so blunt.
Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed: Riley, Jason L.: 9781594038419: Books: Amazon.com
Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed: Riley, Jason L.: 9781594038419: Books: Amazon.com
I need data on how many Black men commit crimes to compare to the number of Black men police arrest. Isn't that obvious? Otherwise forming opinions and making decisions based on representation of outcome is stupid.
Can you imagine if we hired doctors based solely on which group was underrepresented and not how much schooling they've had?
Maybe we should charge older people more for insurance, since young people are clearly overpaying?
I can't believe you had the gull to mention logic in your post.
My point is, there's an obvious, relevant data point being purposefully ignored here.
Anecdotal evidence is your strong suit, which is why you get triggered by watching internet videos in the basement.
Only in regards to your insurance comment, if you compare term policy life insurance premiums for old people vs. young people, you'll find that the monthly premiums for old people are a lot higher...I need data on how many Black men commit crimes to compare to the number of Black men police arrest. Isn't that obvious? Otherwise forming opinions and making decisions based on representation of outcome is stupid.
Can you imagine if we hired doctors based solely on which group was underrepresented and not how much schooling they've had?
Maybe we should charge older people more for insurance, since young people are clearly overpaying?
I can't believe you had the gull to mention logic in your post.
My point is, there's an obvious, relevant data point being purposefully ignored here.
For example:
| 10-Year Term For Males Ages 20-29 | ||||
| AGE | $100,000 | $500,000 | $750,000 | $1,000,000 |
| 20 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 21 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 22 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 23 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 24 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 25 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 26 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 27 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 28 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 29 years old | $7.14 | $13.76 | $18.27 | $21.07 |
| 10 Year Term For Females Ages 20-29 | ||||
| AGE | $100,000 | $500,000 | $750,000 | $1,000,000 |
| 20 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $17.50 |
| 21 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.06 |
| 22 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.06 |
| 23 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.06 |
| 24 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.06 |
| 25 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.38 |
| 26 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.40 |
| 27 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.48 | $18.40 |
| 28 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.70 | $18.06 |
| 29 years old | $6.88 | $12.04 | $15.70 | $18.06 |
Ages 40-49
Ages 50-59
Ages 60-69
Ages 70-79
| 10-Year Term For Males Ages 70-79 | ||||
| AGE | $100,000 | $500,000 | $750,000 | $1,000,000 |
| 70 | $79.36 | $322.99 | $475.81 | $609.92 |
| 71 | $97.78 | $365.09 | $544.42 | $709.65 |
| 72 | $109.31 | $417.67 | $623.29 | $824.95 |
| 73 | $121.19 | $480.94 | $718.20 | $954.89 |
| 74 | $127.49 | $557.46 | $832.98 | $1,090.25 |
| 75 | $133.79 | $644.44 | $963.59 | $1,248.54 |
| 76 | $155.75 | $754.25 | $1,128.31 | $1,477.88 |
| 77 | $177.71 | $864.06 | $1,293.03 | $1,677.38 |
| 78 | $199.68 | $973.88 | $1,457.75 | $1,876.00 |
| 79 | $221.64 | $1,083.69 | $1,622.47 | $2,075.50 |
| 10-Year Term For Females Ages 70-79 | ||||
| AGE | $100,000 | $500,000 | $750,000 | $1,000,000 |
| 70 | $55.48 | $200.43 | $298.20 | $369.79 |
| 71 | $66.18 | $240.45 | $356.74 | $445.73 |
| 72 | $74.80 | $275.54 | $409.37 | $510.91 |
| 73 | $85.10 | $322.25 | $479.59 | $597.80 |
| 74 | $90.74 | $380.89 | $567.39 | $706.39 |
| 75 | $96.25 | $426.79 | $637.42 | $788.26 |
| 76 | $115.85 | $533.44 | $796.23 | $990.77 |
| 77 | $135.45 | $627.51 | $937.32 | $1,192.63 |
| 78 | $155.05 | $750.75 | $1,123.06 | $1,444.36 |
| 79 | $175.53 | $853.13 | $1,276.63 | $1,650.25 |
Beware of naked women on the streets of Chicago.......
Thing is it's not noticeably less because wealthy neighbourhood groups regularly push their NIMBY attitudes.
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Are you not aware of how politics works?
Hell, take a drive down Broadway Ave near Yonge/Eg and look at all the road furniture the residents had put in to try and get the rest of us off their street.
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I've already pointed out the problem with relying solely on police arrest data to determine if police arrests rates actually reflect actual crime rates but your only response is to say data is important. No shit.
Don't know what your comments about doctors and focussed hiring has to do with your desire for stats though (especially as there is nowhere in the world where unqualified doctors are hired simply for their skin colour).
My bad, I was referencing car insurance. Though the same principle applies. If we completely ignored the fact that old people die at a higher rate than young people, we should be outraged at how much older people are charged! That's the same logic those outraged at the police report use.
Exactly. Nor should they be, is the point I'm making.
I may have misread your previous post, so my apologies:
Those are the same thing, so no. I need data on actual crime. For instance, if police arrested a high number of Black people relative to the population, how many of those arrests were judged unwarranted (not based solely on skin color, but on actual merit)? How does the unwarranted rate compare with other races? Are there other ways to assess crime rate outside of arrests?
If the vast majority of arrests were warranted, why such an uproar? You could, at most, suggest that perhaps other races are not being as vigilantly policed and that accounts for the lower arrest rate, but without actual crime stats that would just be a shot in the dark. You could just as fairly say that predominantly non-Black neighborhoods have lower incidents of crime than Black neighborhoods. We don't know which is the true answer until we look beyond arrest rates.
And that's exactly the problem I pointed out.
We have data on arrests (and reports to police) but that is not the same thing. The arrest rates theoretically could be a useful stat IF there is no systemic bias in policing but that is hard to determine.
As I mentioned in another post, there is US data on drug use from numerous sources that when compared to drug arrests shows a clear disparity based on skin tone and studies showing different outcomes in cases based on race but those are American so their relevance will also be questionable.
And going back to the actual topic of discussion, it's not arrest rates but police use of force including cases that result in death of the person. Regardless of people's racial preconceptions on how people interact with police, the police should be doing everything they can to learn how to manage interactions to reduce the possibility. People have a right to be abrasive to the police. I could just imagine if teachers were allowed to deal with attitude the way some cops get away with.
6 shootings over the weekend in the GTA.
When will police apologize to the shooters? Before or after they have to arrest them ?
Cause we all know what the demographic of the shooters is gonna be, and spoiler alert its not 70 year old Asian women
When will police apologize to the shooters? Before or after they have to arrest them ?
Cause we all know what the demographic of the shooters is gonna be, and spoiler alert its not 70 year old Asian women
