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Don Martin: The fall of Justin Trudeau has begun

The Oracle

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The Justin Trudeau brand is in trouble.

The 2015 fresh prince of politics with the celebrity hair and rock star aura is heading into a 2022 summer of inflation-driven Canadian discontent as a faded force of personality in need of an exit strategy.

You know there’s a reputation hit happening when Trudeau becomes the unnamed star of a children’s book "How the Prime Minister Stole Freedom," a satire about his handling of the Freedom Convoy and vaccination mandates, which now sits atop the Amazon Canada bestseller list.

On a more serious vein, there’s an alarm sounding over his leadership style when former top bureaucrat Paul Tellier unleashes in Policy Options magazine, warning Trudeau’s control freakdom of an office is “in the process of destroying the public service … and the word ‘destroying’ is not too strong."



'TOO WOKE, TOO PRECIOUS'
And while this is hardly scientific, after a weeks-long survey of just about everyone I’ve met and many of them Liberals by voting inclination, the overall judgment on Trudeau is one of being a political write-off with their body language alternating between exasperation and eye rolls.

He’s too woke, too precious, preachy in tone, exceedingly smug, lacking in leadership, fading in celebrity, slow to act, short-sighted in vision and generally getting more irritating with every breathlessly whispered public pronouncement. And that’s just the one-sentence summary.

As one prominent and wealthy 40-year Liberal supporter told me: “I won’t send them another dime until he’s gone. He’s a wimp.”

Trudeau is, of course, undoubtedly oblivious to all this. He didn’t even break a sniffle during question period Tuesday, although he seemed to have great trouble answering questions without reading a script as he copes with a second COVID-19 infection.

It was a daunting run of questions that demanded all his artful dodging talent for reading non-answers to questions. He needed to protect his foreign affairs minister for allowing a bureaucrat to attend a Russian caviar party in Ottawa, his public safety minister for promoting a nose-stretcher that police requesting the Emergencies Act to cope with the Freedom Convoy (they didn’t) and shrugging off a Globe-obtained government analysis showing his 2030 emission targets will be extremely difficult to meet.

That’s theatrical business as usual for Trudeau, but he’s delivering performance hiccups far beyond the Commons.

Take the recently completed Summit of the Americas, where Trudeau’s meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden produced jargon and rhetoric a’plenty, but not a whisper of accomplishment to mend our so-far unproductive relationship.

While Trudeau is the so-called dean of the G7 in terms of political longevity, he didn’t even try to convince Biden to reconsider the axed Keystone pipeline or thwart the Michigan governor’s threat to kill the Line 5 pipeline, this in a time when the U.S. is playing footsie with dictator-run Venezuela to alleviate the energy price crisis.

Even when Trudeau does spring into action, his motivation appears suspect.

The Wall Street Journal recently derided Trudeau for acting in response to U.S. developments by toughening Canadian gun laws in the aftermath of the Texas school massacre and re-emphasizing a woman’s right to an abortion in Canada ahead of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling this month. “Apparently Canadian politics is too boring, or parochial, or something,” the editorial observed. “If he wants to influence U.S. politics, we recommend he emigrate and run for Congress.”

But mostly, Trudeau just doesn’t act. As Globe columnist Campbell Clark noted in taking aim at the prime minister's hesitancy to end vaccine mandates, a "political inertia" orbits the sloth-speed Liberal government where “without a political impetus to do something, the default is to do nothing”. Well said.

WILL TRUDEAU RUN FOR RE-ELECTION?
Many of Trudeau's talked-up commitments – be it targets for Afghan translator immigration, Ukrainian resettlement numbers, greenhouse gas emission targets, Indigenous reconciliation moves or even tree planting by the billions – are overpromises sent off for prolonged study to ultimately end up being underdelivered.

A cagey political operative recently insisted to me that, having been involved in the Trudeau negotiations for a power-influencing deal with the NDP, she’s convinced Trudeau is running for re-election to give the cement time to set on his legacy.

If so, his shaky display of true leadership should reward the Conservatives with a government mandate in the next election.

But Trudeau has enjoyed plenty of luck in politics, so unless coronation-bound Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre pivots somewhat into mainstream thinking, the hard-right Conservatives could fall short of what’s required to unseat Trudeau from a fourth mandate.

Speaking of pivoting to a current sign of the prime minister’s ailing status, his media party at 24 Sussex Dr. returns Wednesday with Trudeau away in COVID isolation. I asked a colleague if the missing celebrity host would hinder press gallery attendance. “Actually, I think it’ll be much better without him.”

There’s little doubt a lot of Liberals are thinking the same way about their party under Justin Trudeau.

That's the bottom line.
 

HungSowel

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JT is not a good leader but he is not insane and he listens to his professional advisors, that ought not to be worth shit all but in today's world it is. The conservatives run awful candidates that have zero appeal and JT keeps winning.

It is the same deal with Ford, Ford is not insane and for the most part he does listen to his professional advisers, the liberals and the NDP run awful candidates that have zero appeal and DF keeps winning.

With regards to the convoy, he should have gone hard on them the second they handed in that MOU, he just let that shit fester.
 

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I honestly cannot see Trudeau running again in 2025. At least I hope he doesn't. Not sure who the Liberals would put as their next leader, but Chrystia Freeland would be an excellent leader in my opinion.

I'm worried about Pierre Poilievre. He says really stupid things that are not part of reality, and there are a lot of ignorant people out there listening to him. Imagine buying into crypto when he first started spewing his BS...you'd have lost your shirt....

Basically, I want a solid PC leader, one who will stand up to his social conservative members, one that will follow traditional conservative values. Not the wing nut fringe theories that are being imported from the US....
 

mandrill

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I honestly cannot see Trudeau running again in 2025. At least I hope he doesn't. Not sure who the Liberals would put as their next leader, but Chrystia Freeland would be an excellent leader in my opinion.

I'm worried about Pierre Poilievre. He says really stupid things that are not part of reality, and there are a lot of ignorant people out there listening to him. Imagine buying into crypto when he first started spewing his BS...you'd have lost your shirt....

Basically, I want a solid PC leader, one who will stand up to his social conservative members, one that will follow traditional conservative values. Not the wing nut fringe theories that are being imported from the US....
JT is not a good leader but he is not insane and he listens to his professional advisors, that ought not to be worth shit all but in today's world it is. The conservatives run awful candidates that have zero appeal and JT keeps winning.

It is the same deal with Ford, Ford is not insane and for the most part he does listen to his professional advisers, the liberals and the NDP run awful candidates that have zero appeal and DF keeps winning.

With regards to the convoy, he should have gone hard on them the second they handed in that MOU, he just let that shit fester.
What these guys say. Justin - and Duggo - will keep winning unless and until the opposition run decent and credible candidates. Neither JT or Duggo is impressive. But they're sane and listen to smarter people when they get advice. That works for me and most other voters.

I thought O' Toole was individually a better candidate than JT, but I was sure that EOT would be fucked over at every step by his own party and would never be allowed to govern in the way he saw fit - and I was correct. So I voted for Justin. It's more reliable and less complicated to do that than fuck around with the Tories.

But of course in Oracle-world, it's all about the "struggle for freedom against the vaccine-nazis" - 🐱 :LOL: 🐸 🤪 :D:p:LOL:🐶🐗😺😹🙉
 

Dutch Oven

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Don Martin makes some good points. I like Martin...didn't he used to draw cartoons for Mad Magazine? ;)
Mad Magazines were usually worth a read. CTV.ca, not so much, even taking into account this particular article.

I miss Mad Magazine, and I don't think that TikTok or any of the other social media "entertainment" apps even come remotely close to providing today's younger person anything similar. These are lean times for comedy.
 

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Ghawar
I am very worried about our contribution to rising carbon emission
under Trudeau and climate change. Is that a reason strong enough to
vote for the Green Party of Canada instead of the Liberal Party in the
next election?
 

jcpro

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I am very worried about our contribution to rising carbon emission
under Trudeau and climate change. Is that a reason strong enough to
vote for the Green Party of Canada instead of the Liberal Party in the
next election?
There are estimated over 318 BILLION trees in Canada, maybe as many as 360 BILLION. We are not a problem and we never were. Canada is a sink- a positive influence on the planetary ecosystem.
 

richaceg

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Never had a problem with JT other than taking virtue signalling to a whole new level...i mean "peoplekind"...that was hilarious...
 
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There are estimated over 318 BILLION trees in Canada, maybe as many as 360 BILLION. We are not a problem and we never were. Canada is a sink- a positive influence on the planetary ecosystem.
Unless you count those cut down for lumber.
 

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If you belong to the sheeple who voted for Trudeau to save our climate you
better vote against Chrystia Freeland like she is the plague. Steven Guilbeault was
under her evil influence in making the decision to approve the deep water oil
drilling project offshore Newfoundland. Freeland is going to be worse than
Trudeau as our climate leader.
 
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The Oracle

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If you belong to the sheeple who voted for Trudeau to save our climate you
better vote out Chrystia Freeland like she is the plaque. Steven Guilbeault was
under her evil influence in making the decision to approve the deep water oil
drilling project offshore Newfoundland. Freeland is going to be worse than
Trudeau as our climate leader.
I think you mean ''plague'' but come to think of it ''plaque'' might be a more fitting description of her.......
 

jalimon

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Justin will not fall. He's already at level ground.

Trudeau won in 2015 and that was quite surprising. But his 2 other elections wins were no surprise at all if you look at the 2 dumb yahoo's the conservator elected as their chief... I mean come on Sheere and O'Toole would have been beaten by a poodle.
 
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