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14 students, 1 teacher dead after shooting at Texas elementary school: Gov. Abbott

basketcase

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Again, take a look at a commercial fire door. Glass is laminated, and many are wire reinforced. If this school was hardened in any way, there would have also been grates or bars on the windows.
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Spending to harden schools so kids can enjoy looking at bars and armed guards or simply just enact universal background checks and red flag laws?
 

shack

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Question 1: Did all the calls to defund and demilitarize the police render them unequipped to act effectively in this situation?

Question 2: Who are the people demanding the police be defunded and demilitarized?
Did the right wing's efforts to not allow background checks and other measures to limit the supply of guns contribute to all the mass shootings?
 

Darts

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Yes, I agree the GOP and the 2nd Amendment are an impediment to sane gun laws.
 

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Insidious Von

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The USA hasn't reached critical mass on massacres yet - I was wrong. There have been 218 mass shootings in the American Shithole so far this year in 149 days.

Gerrymandering works, Ted Cruz is a credit to humanity.

 

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And do any of them think using a low power semi-auto is more accurate?

I don't know what kind of hunters you know but the ones I know pride themselves in being able to take down their target with a single shot. Bolt actions are on average more accurate and any hunter deserving of the name doesn't need to unload with a semi-auto to kill their game.


Semi-auto might be my choice against a charging polar bear but even still, I'd want rounds larger than the 5.56.
None of them use low power semi auto rifles. You're trying to warp the narrative.

FACT: Snipers do use semi auto rifles:

M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System - Wikipedia

FACT: Snipers chose their tool based on their mission

Barrett M82 - Wikipedia

FACT: The action they choose for the mission could be semi auto or bolt action.


You know how I can tell you've not done inadequate research again even though I keep telling you? Because you haven't looked into what hunters can use semi auto for.

Instead, you're just saying "I know a guy that hunts, and he doesn't use one". As well, be it semi auto or single shot, you still want to take down the target with a single shot.

Instead of being an armchair expert who can't even be bothered to properly do research on the internet, get off the couch, sign up for a firearms license course and then get a hunting license. Taking those might even get you outside where you can get some exercise by walking around in the wilderness instead of sitting behind a keyboard.

Learn something instead of being a critic who doesn't really know what he's talking about.

You also are still deliberately choosing to ignore that rifle action is separate from caliber to bias your argument
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Cunt Trump at NRA. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Unless they are 19 cops who have to wait for the janitor to open the door for them. He is now saying teachers should have "concealed" weapons. Logic evaded that if everybody knows they are carrying one, how is "concealed" helping.
Just a matter of time before some teacher gets pissed at little Johnny lipping off in class and instead of throwing the chalk board eraser at him, a well placed shot mid section with a 44 will shut the little fuck up.
 
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Darts

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Looking more and more like they are throwing the incident commander under the bus (maybe deservedly so?).
 

Butler1000

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At this point the cops in this are a combination of completely incompetent and cowards.
 

mandrill

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Cunt Trump at NRA. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Unless they are 19 cops who have to wait for the janitor to open the door for them. He is now saying teachers should have "concealed" weapons. Logic evaded that if everybody knows they are carrying one, how is "concealed" helping.
Just a matter of time before some teacher gets pissed at little Johnny lipping off in class and instead of throwing the chalk board eraser at him, a well placed shot mid section with a 44 will shut the little fuck up.
None of this is real. The GOP is owned by the NRA, which in turn is owned by the multi billion $$$$ US gun industry. And the gun industry gets rich on selling all kinds of guns and ammo to customers, many of them psycho assholes or just simply assholes. And for that reason, the gun industry wants no checks or hindrances whatsoever to each and every psycho and asshole in America owning as many guns and as much ammo as that asshole or psycho can possibly buy.

Arming teachers is silly. Giving nervous Miss Dodds, the 55 year old poetry teacher an AR-15 will achieve nothing. In fact, it is not realistic and no one intends to even try it. Ditto paying some SEAL/SWAT honcho to stand patrol in every school with an M-4 and vest is silly and will never, ever be tried.

It's all just this year's script for the corrupt GOP shit-sucker pols to talk their way through PR events for the next 2 or 3 weeks without getting hit hard with questions about why the goddam fuck America doesn't have gun control laws. In 3 weeks time, those same turd-mouth, corrupt GOP pols will deflect back to "the border crisis" or "transsexuals in our bathrooms" and the danger period for difficult questions will end and all of these answers will be forgotten, to be trotted out in a few months time when there's another mass killing event. And so on.

It's just the GOP being the GOP.
 

mandrill

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Looking more and more like they are throwing the incident commander under the bus (maybe deservedly so?).
Oh yes. That dude is burnt toast to the power of 10. They will tear that fuck apart, just to show that they can put a little distance between his sorry, coward ass and their own sorry, corrupt coward asses.
 
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