Do I have to vote for Ford now?

bver_hunter

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I would wager if DelDuca knocked on peoples doors right now more than half would not KNOW who he is. Horwath is a 3x LOSER. Im surprised the NDP keep her on as their leader.
Horwath and Federal Conservative Candice Bergen are very similar opposition Leaders who keep on whining about every thing under the Sun. Del Duca cannot be any worse than Ford. he needs to make himself more visible to the voters. However not only did Ford bribe the Ontarians with this sticker refund, but only now did he decide to make the 412 and 418 highways toll free to try and attract the East end voters. This was a NDP pledge since the 2018 elections!!
 

bver_hunter

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what happens when you realize the strain going around is just a mild form with majority of the ones who get it just get better and the icu and people dying is not much different then the regular seasonal flu and you realize how wrong you were are in your assumptions? Will you remember what you said here or just deleted it from your memory it was ever said and just go back to trying to undermine the government with something else until it sticks? Did you analyze how much it is hurting our economy and peoples livelihoods with the mandates and lockdowns vs accepting this as the new normal.
With the number of hospitalizations up by 40% from a week ago and ICU patients on the rise as well, simple basics like the removal of masks mandates would have helped to curb this rise.
Remember when push came to shove Ford shut the economy last year, especially when he was warned by his own medical experts. This is no different, and implementing the masks for now should once again be a mandate and not a choice. Of course only FreeDumb Convoys will disagree with that fact!!

 

nottyboi

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Got a pleasant surprise in the mail going into the weekend ... over a 600 bucks refund for cars registration...
If I cash them does that mean that Ford expects me to vote for him? ;)
I always voted in Ontario, but never voted for anyone, they are all lame but I want my vote counted...it's not a registration refund that is going to sway me... :rolleyes:
Your duty as a voter in Canada is to pick the least bad choice. Ford was so bad I will take a chance on Del Duca honestly. I hope for a minority govt. I am quite pleased with what is happening at he Federal level. I got 1080 back from DOOHFO, $400 of that will be a political donation once this heats up.
 

Frankfooter

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With the number of hospitalizations up by 40% from a week ago and ICU patients on the rise as well, simple basics like the removal of masks mandates would have helped to curb this rise.
Remember when push came to shove Ford shut the economy last year, especially when he was warned by his own medical experts. This is no different, and implementing the masks for now should once again be a mandate and not a choice. Of course only FreeDumb Convoys will disagree with that fact!!

Not only that, but Ford sent all the rapid tests to private schools and big donors.
 

Valcazar

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See the link below on ways to vote. In a nutshell:

Declining your ballot
Ontario’s election law allows voters to decline their ballot.
To decline your ballot, tell the election official that you are declining your right to vote when they hand you a ballot. This is a public process done out loud.
The election official will mark “declined” on the back of the ballot. Your ballot will not be placed in the ballot box but in an envelope for declined ballots.

Sorry.
I am so used to people spouting nonsense about how they can register protest votes that I always ask now.
You are of course correct about how it works in an Ontario provincial election.
One of the few places in North America where a formal "decline" or "none of the above" is possible.
 

chrispalen

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I got a call from Ford's office asking if I plan to vote for him.
I gave them a flat NO before hanging up on them.
He is messing up with dropping the mask restriction. He just want votes
and don't give a damn about our well being. He lies every time he opens his mouth.

He thinks he can buy reelection with auto plate renewal fee refund, removal of highway tolls,
building hospitals etc. He is just using our tax money to keep him in his job.
Let's vote him out. By the way, where the hell is Dr. Moore, the so called Chief Health Officer
of Ontario??? He should not be paid if he is no longer giving reports on TV.

CP
 

glamphotographer

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You took $600 from Ford to vote for him, that's bribery. If you vote for PPC then it's freedumb.
 

Varoufakis

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I got a call from Ford's office asking if I plan to vote for him.
I gave them a flat NO before hanging up on them.
He is messing up with dropping the mask restriction. He just want votes
and don't give a damn about our well being. He lies every time he opens his mouth.

He thinks he can buy reelection with auto plate renewal fee refund, removal of highway tolls,
building hospitals etc. He is just using our tax money to keep him in his job.
Let's vote him out. By the way, where the hell is Dr. Moore, the so called Chief Health Officer
of Ontario??? He should not be paid if he is no longer giving reports on TV.

CP
I am guessing Dr. Moore disagreed with Ford and Co.
He was told to take a hike or go on vacations or whatever but not talk to the media.
He probably would like to resign but that would send a message as well. So silence is a compromise.
 

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Horwath and Federal Conservative Candice Bergen are very similar opposition Leaders who keep on whining about every thing under the Sun. Del Duca cannot be any worse than Ford. he needs to make himself more visible to the voters. However not only did Ford bribe the Ontarians with this sticker refund, but only now did he decide to make the 412 and 418 highways toll free to try and attract the East end voters. This was a NDP pledge since the 2018 elections!!
Del Duca came from a very bad liberal government that had 15 years to make things right in Ontario. Instead of focusing on education, healthcare or long term homes that government made their number one priority windmills.

The 412 opened in 2016 when the Liberals were in power and they did not make it a non toll road. At least Ford has made those two feeder highways free for the public to use. This is a big win for the people who live in Durham as in the summer the 401 can get pretty bad traffic wise and if there is an accident, at least you can book off and go north to an alternate route.
 
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bver_hunter

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Del Duca came from a very bad liberal government that had 15 years to make things right in Ontario. Instead of focusing on education, healthcare or long term homes that government made their number one priority windmills.

The 412 opened in 2016 when the Liberals were in power and they did not make it a non toll road. At least Ford has made those two feeder highways free for the public to use. This is a big win for the people who live in Durham as in the summer the 401 can get pretty bad traffic wise and if there is an accident, at least you can book off and go north to an alternate route.
This Ford Government is no better. They have handled this Pandemic really badly, scrapped funds allocated for schools infrastructure, are building highways that are not required, also curtailed investigations into Senior Homes that had Safety and short staffing issues. This resulted in high incidents of deaths in these Senior Homes. Moreover, they cut funding to hospitals, reduced sick days, scrapped minimum wage increases to employees while increasing the salaries and privileges to CEOs.

The Liberals did invest in the 412, 418 and 407 Eastbound Highways. The Conservatives had no desire to remove the tolls until this election year. But remember that the Conservatives were the ones to sell the lease of the 407 ETR for 99 years and as a result we in Ontario are paying the Highest Toll charges in the world if we have to use the 407. This lease was awarded without any stipulations or restrictions with regards to the charges. Hence every single year the toll keeps rising and is beyond the reach of average family household!!
 
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spankingman

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With the number of hospitalizations up by 40% from a week ago and ICU patients on the rise as well, simple basics like the removal of masks mandates would have helped to curb this rise.
Remember when push came to shove Ford shut the economy last year, especially when he was warned by his own medical experts. This is no different, and implementing the masks for now should once again be a mandate and not a choice. Of course only FreeDumb Convoys will disagree with that fact!!

WHAT would the NoDoParty and Libs have done any different?? There is no manual for dealing with a pandemic this large. Ford was caught between a rock and a hard place weighing the health of the population vs the Provinces economy and getting flack from everyone else. Open this close this Yeah what the other 2 any different. Angry Andrea was ALWAYS saying she would hire more Nurses. Newsflash Andrea there are no extra Nurses to hire!!

My wife a RN works in LTC. They cant find Nurses to replace the ones retiring because young RN dont want to work in LTC. My wife due to shortages has not been able to take a weeks vacation until this past January.

Delduca doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground. He wants to raise the min. wage to$16.00 per hour if elected which will just get passed on to the consumers as if stuff isnt expensive enough right now!!
 

Frankfooter

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WHAT would the NoDoParty and Libs have done any different?? There is no manual for dealing with a pandemic this large. Ford was caught between a rock and a hard place weighing the health of the population vs the Provinces economy and getting flack from everyone else. Open this close this Yeah what the other 2 any different. Angry Andrea was ALWAYS saying she would hire more Nurses. Newsflash Andrea there are no extra Nurses to hire!!

My wife a RN works in LTC. They cant find Nurses to replace the ones retiring because young RN dont want to work in LTC. My wife due to shortages has not been able to take a weeks vacation until this past January.

Delduca doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground. He wants to raise the min. wage to$16.00 per hour if elected which will just get passed on to the consumers as if stuff isnt expensive enough right now!!
Has your wife not mentioned Bill 124 and Ford's attempt to pay nurses $5000 to stay instead of giving them cost of living increases during the pandemic?
 

bver_hunter

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WHAT would the NoDoParty and Libs have done any different?? There is no manual for dealing with a pandemic this large. Ford was caught between a rock and a hard place weighing the health of the population vs the Provinces economy and getting flack from everyone else. Open this close this Yeah what the other 2 any different. Angry Andrea was ALWAYS saying she would hire more Nurses. Newsflash Andrea there are no extra Nurses to hire!!

My wife a RN works in LTC. They cant find Nurses to replace the ones retiring because young RN dont want to work in LTC. My wife due to shortages has not been able to take a weeks vacation until this past January.

Delduca doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground. He wants to raise the min. wage to$16.00 per hour if elected which will just get passed on to the consumers as if stuff isnt expensive enough right now!!
As I already explained Ford was clueless with his handling of this Pandemic. Not going to repeat it as it is all laid out in Post # 32.

But what is shocking is that you are concerned about those on $15 per hour getting a raise of $1. So you think that $15 per hour is okay for those on minimum wages to even afford their monthly house rentals. There is no problem for landlords raising their rents and evicting their tenants in order to justify these increments even though they have not even upgraded or renovated their properties. But I guess you are okay with CEOs and businesses such as Oil Companies reaping the benefits to grants themselves higher bonuses etc on the backs of the Canadians who are trying to make their ends meet. In other words this $1 increment is a drop in the bucket, especially as Ford raised their wages when push came to shove and by just a few cents an hour. What a joke!!
 

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I prefer not to vote for anyone that supported the lockdowns. Ford was the most lockdown happy leader in all North America. Which destroyed so many people's lives and quality of life for years to come..........I have no choice but to vote PC. Deluca and Horvat are worse.
Federal elections cant come soon enough Pierre speaks to me a first generation Canadian
 

spankingman

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As I already explained Ford was clueless with his handling of this Pandemic. Not going to repeat it as it is all laid out in Post # 32.

But what is shocking is that you are concerned about those on $15 per hour getting a raise of $1. So you think that $15 per hour is okay for those on minimum wages to even afford their monthly house rentals. There is no problem for landlords raising their rents and evicting their tenants in order to justify these increments even though they have not even upgraded or renovated their properties. But I guess you are okay with CEOs and businesses such as Oil Companies reaping the benefits to grants themselves higher bonuses etc on the backs of the Canadians who are trying to make their ends meet. In other words this $1 increment is a drop in the bucket, especially as Ford raised their wages when push came to shove and by just a few cents an hour. What a joke!!

Im concerned about the SMALL BUSINESS mom pop type stores who can't afford the increases. IMO there is no reason why some of these large corporations pay their staff min. wage or just above it.
 
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