Ukrainians launch major counter attacks on stalled Russian forces

[PeteOsborne]

Oops. They did it again. Claimed something that wasn’t there..and it’s pretty much the second time how they speak the whole day about a specific ship, say with pride what it was carrying and have to clarify their mistake for the audience. That only happens when it is the obvious fact of BS whatever can’t be just visually confirmed by anything but Twitter just stay as is for civilians and mercenaries. And whatever the reason for them not taking over Kiev, I am only happy about it. He has no business anywhere else but d and l That’s for sure. The only thing they have to be on top of the game with spies etc with supplies from the west. And yeah use their hypersonic shit for nato shipments..

Ukrainian military clarifies which Russian landing ship it destroyed

Ukraine’s Armed Forces revised earlier comments they had made about which Russian landing ship they claimed Ukrainian forces had destroyed. “In the Azov operational zone, according to upd…

www.google.ca

What? So they confused two identical ships and got the name wrong, either way, what ever the name is, its on the bottom of the harbor, in 5m of water and two additional ships were damaged along with the stockpiles on the dock.
Other than the name, everything that was reported seems to have happened, as said.

 

[Crystal]

What? So they confused two identical ships and got the name wrong, either way, what ever the name is, its on the bottom of the harbor, in 5m of water and two additional ships were damaged along with the stockpiles on the dock.
Other than the name, everything that was reported seems to have happened, as said.

Not even at the bottom of the sea but clearly not operable without major repairs and there was never any of 400 troops in casualties and the whole Load of military epuipment from
Orsk.

 

[NotADcotor]

Watch the video, please, it has english subtitles and clips from Russian media and government officials discussing expansion plans and the use of nuclear weapons as a first strike.

And Trump said he won the election. People lie all the time.
Do you believe that the Ukraine is run by Neo-Nazis also.

They are repeating the party line of threats, I already addressed that. Anyone who actually matters knows better. As for the rest, that would be like trying to figure out politics by the likes of Tucker of Fox news. Who even knows if he believes all the stuff he says.

I never said the threats didn't happen, I just said they are just empty threats. Officials will play along and the media is controls by Poutine. They are not not going to play along.

As Mandil said, if the Russians go full Nuketard there must be a massive and crushing response, Ukraine must get it's pre 2014 borders and Russia must be sanctioned till Poutine gets removed and his replacement is more sensible. If not, you might as well just give him the entirety of NATO.
I can haz Potato Union
No
I haz Nukes
OK
I can Haz rest of former WP
No
I haz Nukes
OK
I can haz the rest of NATO and the chance to put my tubesteak in your sister.
No
I haz nuke
OK.

Bluster and threats to the contrary Moscow knows this also.

 

[mandrill]

Like I said, I don't trust the reports I'm getting... fog of war...

Absolutely true. There is a ton of stuff that we don't know. But it's indisputable that the Russian offensive has died in its tracks everywhere except Mariupol. The Russians have made little or no forward progress on all fronts except Mariupol for about 2 weeks now.

The general shape of things is that the Russians have shot their bolt.

 

[mandrill]

Oops. They did it again. Claimed something that wasn’t there..and it’s pretty much the second time how they speak the whole day about a specific ship, say with pride what it was carrying and have to clarify their mistake for the audience. That only happens when it is the obvious fact of BS whatever can’t be just visually confirmed by anything but Twitter just stay as is for civilians and mercenaries. And whatever the reason for them not taking over Kiev, I am only happy about it. He has no business anywhere else but d and l That’s for sure. The only thing they have to be on top of the game with spies etc with supplies from the west. And yeah use their hypersonic shit for nato shipments..

Ukrainian military clarifies which Russian landing ship it destroyed

Ukraine’s Armed Forces revised earlier comments they had made about which Russian landing ship they claimed Ukrainian forces had destroyed. “In the Azov operational zone, according to upd…

www.google.ca

No one believes that the Ukrainians are telling the truth about much of anything. It's war time and everyone lies to keep up morale and look good.

But a big Russian ship certainly went BOOM!

 

[Insidious Von]

The general shape of things is that the Russians have shot their bolt.

Russia is rotting from within, Putinesca invaded Ukraine to deflect from the looting of the nation. Russian soldiers are starving in Ukraine, Russians must eventually give democracy a chance. The Putinesca regime is a Potemkin, it will fall...and this time the West must not turn it's back.

 

[Crystal]

Russia is rotting from within, Putinesca invaded Ukraine to deflect from the looting of the nation. Russian soldiers are starving in Ukraine, Russians must eventually give democracy a chance. The Putinesca regime is a Potemkin, it will fall...and this time the West must not turn it's back.

Yes opinion does matter. Most Russians are outraged with attacks on cities like Kiev and Harkiv. But majority does support standing up for Donbas. People fleeing Russia is a pile of crap. Empty airports.. there is no flights.And trust me most Russians have access to Twitter etc no probs

 

[Insidious Von]

Yes opinion does matter. Most Russians are outraged with attacks on cities like Kiev and Harkiv. But majority does support standing up for Donbas. People fleeing Russia is a pile of crap. Empty airports.. there is no flights.And trust me most Russians have access to Twitter etc no probs

You remind me of a scene from Runaway Train, directed by Andrei Konchalovsky:

 

[PeteOsborne]

Not even at the bottom of the sea but clearly not operable without major repairs and there was never any of 400 troops in casualties and the whole Load of military epuipment from
Orsk.

Where did you read these reports?
I have seen a desciption of the ship that said it was capable of carrying up to 20 tanks, 45 armored personnel carriers and 400 paratroopers.
I have only seen that is has sunk at the dock in 5m of water, no casualty reports from it or the dock, no on board contents, there had been an unconfirmed report that it was loading equipment left by the Orsk, but again unconfirmed.
There was definitely something explosive in the forward hold.
Oil tanks on the dock were confirmed by sattelite imagery to have been on fire.
Kunikov and Novercherkassk left port damaged. 8 killed on Kunikov and 3 killed and 3 injured on Novercherkassk, apparently confirmed by telegram intercept.

 

[Crystal]

Where did you read these reports?
I have only seen that is has sunk at the dock in 5m of water, no casualty reports from it or the dock, there had been an unconfirmed report that it was loading equipment left by the Orsk, but again unconfirmed.
There was definitely something explosive in the forward hold.
Kunikov and Novercherkassk left port damaged. 8 killed on Kunikov and 3 killed and 3 injured on Novercherkassk, apparently confirmed by telegram intercept.

Can’t find an English version to
Post here yet. It was a Russian article how Orsk with cargo is just fine and how Ukraine added 400 casualties because that’s Orsk capacity. Also it said something that Saratov will have to go through years of repairs and it’s not like Ukraine claimed at the bottom , therefore the port is fully functional. I’ll wait for the official military statements..
And I am sure russia has better things to do than to load cargo from one ship to an identical one just to kill some time.lol

 

[Crystal]

You remind me of a scene from Runaway Train, directed by Andrei Konchalovsky:

Lol
You funny. But seriously how do you think Russians are fleeing Russia? I certainly don’t see any line ups with suitcases in Moscow walking towards Europe to Democracy. now with no countries accepting Russian flights and the other way around fleeing would be extremely difficult.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Can’t find an English version to
Post here yet. It was a Russian article how Orsk with cargo is just fine and how Ukraine added 400 casualties because that’s Orsk capacity. Also it said something that Saratov will have to go through years of repairs and it’s not like Ukraine claimed at the bottom , therefore the port is fully functional. I’ll wait for the official military statements..

Yes, the Orsk is fine, no one is debating that since it was explained that the ship is its sister ship, the Saratov.
Again I have seen no one claiming 400 casualties from this attack.
There are pictures I have seen of it listing to port with water over the side rail, looks as if it hit bottom and started to roll.
If she sunk 5m then the ship was mostly empty since her loaded draft is over 6m and the depth of the harbor is 8.5m at its shallowest.
If I can find them again I will post them .

 

[PeteOsborne]

Yes opinion does matter. Most Russians are outraged with attacks on cities like Kiev and Harkiv. But majority does support standing up for Donbas. People fleeing Russia is a pile of crap. Empty airports.. there is no flights.And trust me most Russians have access to Twitter etc no probs

Lots of flights in and out of Moscow as well as other International airports around the country.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/svo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/led

 

[NotADcotor]

You funny. But seriously how do you think Russians are fleeing Russia? I certainly don’t see any line ups with suitcases in Moscow walking towards Europe to Democracy. now with no countries accepting Russian flights and the other way around fleeing would be extremely difficult.

 

[HungSowel]

Lol
You funny. But seriously how do you think Russians are fleeing Russia? I certainly don’t see any line ups with suitcases in Moscow walking towards Europe to Democracy. now with no countries accepting Russian flights and the other way around fleeing would be extremely difficult.

Fly to China and from there fly to where ever you want.

 

[Crystal]

Fly to China and from there fly to where ever you want.

I emailed my uncle. He said he’ll stick to Russia. It’s nice in the summer and what’s more important lots of grain but I’ll make sure to inform my classmates in Europe about the flights avail..

 

[mandrill]

Satellite Images Confirm Russian Navy Landing Ship Was Sunk at Berdyansk - USNI News

The Russian landing ship attacked by Ukrainian forces this week at in the southern port city of Berdyansk has sunk, Pentagon officials confirmed on Friday. Satellite images provided to USNI News by Maxar Technologies prove the Alligator-class landing ship tank (LST) that was seen on video on...

news.usni.org

 

[Frankfooter]

Not even at the bottom of the sea but clearly not operable without major repairs and there was never any of 400 troops in casualties and the whole Load of military epuipment from
Orsk.

Whatever, a supply ship is gone and there is just that much less food and ammo for the invaders.
Bummer that Putin has given up on taking all of Ukraine and is now saying he only wanted Donbas after all.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

I emailed my uncle. He said he’ll stick to Russia. It’s nice in the summer and what’s more important lots of grain but I’ll make sure to inform my classmates in Europe about the flights avail..

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507397435450138627

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507362085860261892