Ontario woman killed a Client in an act of self defense during a sex work call-gets 8 years in jail

LTO_3

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If the knife she used was because of any threat against her is one thing but if she just grabbed the knife and stabbed him, then the sentence she got is justified. I also agree details are missing from this story that would have provided more clarity of what happened and why.

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curr3n_c1000

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Like prohibition in the US, as soon as you make it illegal - both the customer and the SP can find themselves in situations of both physical and financial harm. Yes, it is easy to blame Harper - he was a piece of shit. He removed European dancers simply by applying a moral based restriction on a legal activity.

Legalized brothels could protect both and hopefully remove/limit the criminal (pimps) from the formula. These are gutless politicians who use moral grandstanding to remove the rights of adults to engage in mutual consent activities.
You're mad at Harper because he limited your ability to bang trafficked women?

I think you should reassess your position.
 

Robert Mugabe

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It was a plea deal. She was charged with Murder 1 - which suggests that the cops thought that it was a premeditated hit on the guy. Then it became a manslaughter deal based on excessive violence used in self-defence. Sounds like there was a lot more going on there than came out at the hearing.
Murder 1? In Canada? That's a first.
 

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You're mad at Harper because he limited your ability to bang trafficked women?

I think you should reassess your position.
Harper promoted the black market that breeds trafficked women. Legal brothels can be regulated. I'm amazed you fall for the bullshit.
 

Dirkpit

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The article states that she was suggesting that. What I find most strange is that she was being charged with murder 1, which makes me wonder if we have all the facts. Is bringing a knife to a business transaction considered premeditation to commit murder?
From long long ago personal experiences….
The police will charge you with anything they can. They will even invent charges. They like to make you sound as bad as possible and threaten you with as harsh a sentence as possible. They then force you to take a plea deal or risk a ridiculous charge. It is a big stupid game that doesn’t bring justice or fairness. To be clear, I was guilty of something in my case, but that was irrelevant. The police were sneaky and underhanded liars through the whole process. I’m glad it’s in the distant past.

My point is, we will never know the truth of what really happened.
 

K Douglas

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I can't help but think that the OP is just trolling for attention here
 

LickingG2

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Harper promoted the black market that breeds trafficked women. Legal brothels can be regulated. I'm amazed you fall for the bullshit.
Justin has 7 years to change it and hasn't should he share equal blame?
 

IM469

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Justin has 7 years to change it and hasn't should he share equal blame?
Trudeau is a politician - by definition that is a moral coward that sucks up for votes not individual rights. Equal blame ? - No ! Harper actually put the effort into a campaign to suppress individual rights. He could have left it alone but didn't. Harper was a active piece of shit. Fixing Harper's shit at the cost of upsetting old conservative leaning voters - Trudeau held an unnecessary election during a pandemic as part of a power grab. I'd suggest caring about voters is not top of his list.

I always find it interesting how people can colour then rally around selfish pieces of shit (eg: politicians).
 
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Bagilson

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Depends: If he was trying to rape her, stabbing him is justified to prevent it. If he was just refusing to leave, that’s another story.
 
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I was thinking the same thing. I really wish there was more detail in the article. She stabbed him 100 times? Were there any bruises or marks or signs of strangulation on her body? What was her side of the story? What a terribly written article actually.
i think, it was her side of the story. We will never know his side.
 

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From long long ago personal experiences….
The police will charge you with anything they can. They will even invent charges. They like to make you sound as bad as possible and threaten you with as harsh a sentence as possible. They then force you to take a plea deal or risk a ridiculous charge. It is a big stupid game that doesn’t bring justice or fairness. To be clear, I was guilty of something in my case, but that was irrelevant. The police were sneaky and underhanded liars through the whole process. I’m glad it’s in the distant past.

My point is, we will never know the truth of what really happened.
Maybe.... But for Murder 1 there has to be evidence it was premeditated. I know what you're talking about, but never seen a prosecutor employ that strategy with murder unless there was actual evidence it was pre-planned.
 

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Maybe.... But for Murder 1 there has to be evidence it was premeditated. I know what you're talking about, but never seen a prosecutor employ that strategy with murder unless there was actual evidence it was pre-planned.
There used to a former DA on this board called Aardvark and he often mentioned that there was a internal formal code of conduct at the DA's office that got a prosecutor censured for blatantly over-charging.

Do cops lie and make shit up?.... Yes. Big time.

But there would have to be some credible evidence of pre meditation for a Murder 1 charge to be laid by the Crown. And murder is not a run of the mill "happens 50 times a day in this city" type of charge. Probably the senior Crown attorney supervised the drafting and laying of the charge.
 
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Article said she used a large hunting knife to kill him and gave him no warning to back off.

He looks so tiny, I doubt he could've forced himself on her. A normal person would've just walked away if threatened with a hunting knife.

No evidence of his danger is presented. For example, if he himself was carrying a weapon with him, like a gun or a knife, then I can see how he could've been a physical threat.

Also, it's very rare for a SWer to decline an appointment after having made one already. The man must be extremely drunk, gross, ugly or something of that sort. But he looks handsome. This detail isn't provided either. Her declining services may as well be a made up story.

Something about this story doesn't add up.
 

Dirkpit

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Maybe.... But for Murder 1 there has to be evidence it was premeditated. I know what you're talking about, but never seen a prosecutor employ that strategy with murder unless there was actual evidence it was pre-planned.
Well I don’t really know anything about murder. I wasn’t that bad.
 

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Actually, the point of finding her guilty is that it was NOT in act of self defence, - where did you make up that from anyhow?
 

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