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Gstep said:
And what... become a Russian puppet state? Many would rather die with their dignity intacted rather than live without basic freedoms and the right to self-determination.

I thought Zelenskyy was a fool but he's actually turning out to be quite heroic. Do you think for one second that you would see Putin out on the front lines as a foreign army closes in on him? No he'd be hiding in his bunker or more likely long since fleed with his oligarch buddies.

And it's not for simple presidency and pride, he's making this stand because it works. It's called asymmetrical warfare - It's why America had issues in Iraq and Afghanistan and is no longer there. I'm starting to think Putin is the fool for thinking the same tactics wouldn't be used against him as apparently he thought he could take Kyiv quickly and easily.
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He thought exactly what he said. He doesn’t want to take over kyiv. And look if he wanted to he would have 2 days ago. That’s not the goal..
To become Russian puppet..?? Sounds like a matter of pride.. no, not to send civilians to die..and return to diplomacy no matter what it takes.
You guys keep comparing Chechnya (which Putin succeeded in at the end and had his first significant credit for) and ukraine.
There is no comparison.!
 
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jcpro said:
It's not only a war on the ground and in the air. It's also a propaganda war in the digital age.
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The moment any footage is available it's already presented as undeniable fact and truth. Both sides play the game, but West perfected it and plays at high level.
 
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Crystal said:
He thought exactly what he said. He doesn’t want to take over kyiv. And look if he wanted to he would have 2 days ago. That’s not the goal..
To become Russian puppet..?? Sounds like a matter of pride.. no, not to send civilians to die..and return to diplomacy no matter what it takes.
You guys keep comparing Chechnya (which Putin succeeded in at the end and had his first significant credit for) and ukraine.
There is no comparison.!
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You have inside intel on what Putin wants?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497711594914127873
 
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Frankfooter said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497230849091117057

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497428930109878282
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Apparently it’s a Ukrainian tank:
www.google.ca

Ukraine: These videos do not show a Russian tank running over a civilian in Kyiv

On Twitter, videos from February 25 showing a military tank running over a car in the Obolon district of Ukraine's capital city Kyiv have garnered over ten million views. But contrary to what some users…
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What a skilled use of a tank.
And a picture of Miss Ukraine with a weapon was pre war. It was made for the Ukrainian army to wish them a happy professional day..
and the school with 2 teachers dead is also bombed by Ukrainian forces in Donbas. Russian teachers dead. And the list goes on.. Russian missile strike on Orphanage is my personal favourite pile of crap
 
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Frankfooter said:
Ukrainian drones are still flying.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498283876057243648

Putin's generals are instead doing what they do every time they start losing.
Bombing absolutely everything, like they did in Chechnya.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498293758688993280
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So quick of you to jump to conclusions maybe do some research next time instead of listening to biased reporting that are empty and mostly propaganda...and looks like UN doesn't recognize Israel as apartheid...
 
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Crystal said:
Apparently it’s a Ukrainian tank:
www.google.ca

Ukraine: These videos do not show a Russian tank running over a civilian in Kyiv

On Twitter, videos from February 25 showing a military tank running over a car in the Obolon district of Ukraine's capital city Kyiv have garnered over ten million views. But contrary to what some users…
www.google.ca www.google.ca
What a skilled use of a tank.
And a picture of Miss Ukraine with a weapon was pre war. It was made for the Ukrainian army to wish them a happy professional day..
and the school with 2 teachers dead is also bombed by Ukrainian forces in Donbas. Russian teachers dead. And the list goes on.. Russian missile strike on Orphanage is my personal favourite pile of crap
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Your link says it was a Russian 'saboteur' driving it.
The man driving the military truck was also wearing a Ukrainian uniform, but soldiers who could be heard speaking in the videos explained that he was suspected to be a "Russian saboteur disguised as a Ukrainian soldier". A few minutes before the incident occured, Ukrainian Deputy Defence Minister Anna Maliar posted a message on Facebook saying that "the Russian army has seized Ukrainian army vehicles and is headed towards Kyiv".
 
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richaceg said:
So quick of you to jump to conclusions maybe do some research next time instead of listening to biased reporting that are empty and mostly propaganda...and looks like UN doesn't recognize Israel as apartheid...
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Crystal's own link showed it was a Russian attack.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Crystal's own link showed it was a Russian attack.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
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no they don't, show me some of your links th UN said it. US is aiding Ukraine the way they aid Israel in its war vs. Hamas ..Biden doesn't consider Israel apartheid. Trudeau doesn't consider Israel apartheid...are they wrong?
 
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richaceg said:
no they don't, show me some of your links th UN said it. US is aiding Ukraine the way they aid Israel in its war vs. Hamas ..Biden doesn't consider Israel apartheid. Trudeau doesn't consider Israel apartheid...are they wrong?
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Its in the post, click on the red word 'apartheid'.
But keep it to the Israel thread, don't derail this one.

Russia is getting desperate and giving up on just replacing the government.
They are now out to destroy Ukraine like they did Chechnya.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499176580077453313
 
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Frankfooter said:
Your link says it was a Russian 'saboteur' driving it.
The man driving the military truck was also wearing a Ukrainian uniform, but soldiers who could be heard speaking in the videos explained that he was suspected to be a "Russian saboteur disguised as a Ukrainian soldier". A few minutes before the incident occured, Ukrainian Deputy Defence Minister Anna Maliar posted a message on Facebook saying that "the Russian army has seized Ukrainian army vehicles and is headed towards Kyiv".
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Does it make any sense to you?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Yes, there have been lots of reports of Russian 'saboteurs' in Ukraine.
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It's a thing. They sneak around and mark buildings and plant booby traps.

My friend from Ukraine gets reports from her family there.
 
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