Ford to announce lifting of vaccine mandate March 1st???
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If the majority of people cares about others, then majority will keep masking when it will be optional, so, it is OK to drop the mandates. I am just using your assumptions and common logic.
I’m not commenting on our actions after March 2020, I’m commenting after November 2021 when we now know it’s nothing to fear. We all played our part, now let’s move on.
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The only surgeries cancelled were elective. You don’t understand the definition, anyone needing surgery due to life or death continued as normal. If you needed new tits or a new hip it was delayed. Don’t fall for the media.
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Thats complete bollcocks. All the snowbirds I know have been there since January and are having the time of their lives. You live in a bubble mate. Get out and stop being manipulative by the media.
lol. You make no sense, what’s drink driver got to do with anything. Lol. And yes, I’ve said from the beginning Covid was hijacked by the politicians and yes it’s politics.
You don't seem to understand there's capacity limits on the number of people hospitals and staff can treat at one time. When you take everything people are admitted for and add COVID, our hospitals began to buckle under the pressure and millions of procedures and elective surgeries had to be cancelled. Thus restrictions were put in place. The Omicron wave seems to be over so it makes sense to lift restrictions and that's what they doing.
I'm not the one complaining and protesting. That's the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers. I look forward to not having to wear a mask any longer. Although, I bet they'll still be required in LTC homes for a while.
No, you don't understand the definition of elective surgeries and procedures. I have numerous friends in healthcare from ER doctors, physicians to nurses which is where I get my information from. In addition to postponing elective surgeries, there's many diagnostic services, cancer screenings etc. that have been delayed. As I'm sure you're aware, when it comes to cancer, early detection can be a matter of life and death. As is having surgery as soon as possible after diagnosis.
I'll also add, postponing non-urgent surgeries may not seem like a big deal to you. But in many cases, people are suffering in pain and waiting months and months just makes things worse. Many can't work until they've had their surgery. How do you think a woman feels when she's told her reconstructive breast surgery after her mastectomy has been delayed by a few months. But hey, no big deal right? It's not life threatening. Have a little compassion.
This is just one story of a woman with colon cancer who's been affected by the delays. I'd hate to be in her shoes. There's tens of thousands in the same situation.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-...ving-surgery-postponed-indefinitely-1.5739117
Tell me, how many hospital beds do you think there are in Ontario? Just a few hundred in your estimation, maybe a couple thousand? Once you find out the true number, please post it!!
Thank your lucky stars you do not live in Alberta. JK is going to pass legislation so that Cities and Municipalities cannot supersede the relaxing of Covid mandates. Vaccine Passports. Masking, Capacity Limits etc are all but gone...except in high risk settings. In a few weeks Ford will match JK
Alberta to force municipalities to lift mask bylaws
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During the height of the pandemic (which is not now) it wasn't the number of physical number of beds, it was the human resources required to service patients. You obviously don't have any friends in healthcare. If you did, you'd know how tough it was caring for COVID patients during the pandemic. Healthcare workers are exhausted. If you don't believe me, talk to some of them. Oh, and be sure to tell them the pandemic was a farce and there was never any emergency. You think because you and your buddies didn't get sick, there was no stress on the healthcare system. You have no clue.
Why do you think I'm against removing restrictions. You obviously haven't read my posts. Either that or your comprehension skills are a little suspect. Masks will be gone very soon and that's great. I look forward to it. All I said is that LTC homes may choose to have staff and visitors continue to wear masks for a little longer. I see nothing wrong with that.
Alberta's mask mandate comes to an end
If you read my past posts, I am all for keeping masking in LTC, Hospital's and Public Transit. Everywhere else things need's a return to 'normal'.
True but you seem to be ignoring the whole part of laws being required to protect society from people who refuse to do so.
ps. scientific evidence is much better than "common sense".
Only around 3000 deaths during that time in Ontario, most of which during the omicron wave.
Florida's not a state any more? Sorry but I'll take our death rate over theirs, even if it means I've had to wear a mask.
A law passed by the government to protect society from people who present harm. Most people with covid don't die and most drunk drivers don't kill someone yet governments have done their duty in both cases to protect society.
After seeing so many right-wingers complain about government overreach ...
But minority not wearing masks poses little treat: as long as majority are willingly follow the recommendations, then mandates are not needed. Or do you think that majority will not wear masks when it will be recommended but not required? If so, then we are not really talking about "caring for others" but "because it is the law"
Look at it this very simple way. The more people that wear a mask the better. I don't think that anybody can argue that.
If 90% wear a mask with no mandate, and with a mandate 94% wear a mask, that is better in terms of protection. Regardless of how much the rate of covid changes, it is still better/safer.
