Ford to announce lifting of vaccine mandate March 1st???

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Think about this, next week, you can watch the Leafs play a game live and be surrounded by hundreds or thousands of patrons who are not vaccinated. They won't be masked either 100% of the time. Cheering, eating, drinking etc.

Scary times ahead đź‘» :ROFLMAO:
That's great, I'm glad things are opening up. According to the doctors and nurses I know, it's mainly the unvaccinated who are suffering the worst effects of Omicron.

The war in the Ukraine really puts things into perspective after having to listen to pussies bitch about vaccines, masks and their freedoms for the last 2 years.
 

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You keep talking about science???? From day ONE the science said the majority are fine. I don’t think you understand it. Nothing will stop transmission, no lockdowns, no vaccines, nothing.
While technically the majority were fine, it would've been a real shit-show without vaccines, masking etc. You seem to have forgotten how overwhelmed hospitals were around the world. Ask any healthcare worker dealing with COVID what the last couple years was like for them.
 

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That's great, I'm glad things are opening up. According to the doctors and nurses I know, it's mainly the unvaccinated who are suffering the worst effects of Omicron.
The unvaccinated on the whole do not interest me, nor should they interest anyone else. They have free access to which every vaccine they want to take...and getting a booking is easy with virtually no waiting time.
 
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It is a positive move to at least delay the removal of the mask mandates. The individual States in the USA that were too irresponsible in totally abolishing all mandates have around twice the deaths compared to the whole of Canada. So anyone that cannot accept the real facts are living in total denial. The USA itself has three times the per capita death rates compared to Canada. Unfortunately, the unvaccinated in Canada are the ones that elevate the Canadian statistical cases, and have delayed the reopening in various provinces. Douggie Boy should not just rush to abolish all the mandates too hastily as there maybe a price to pay. He should hopefully have learnt from his lessons from last year!!
 
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Douggie Boy should not just rush to abolish all the mandates too hastily as there maybe a price to pay. He should hopefully have learnt from his lessons from last year!!
He is already dropping hints in a few weeks masking will no longer be mandated. WAY TO GO DOUG!! All he needs to do is make it optional, then you can decide for yourself to keep wearing them.

The greatest at risk are the unvaccinated, they should no longer keep you up at night Doug.
 
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The unvaccinated on the whole do not interest me, nor should they interest anyone else. They have free access to which every vaccine they want to take...and getting a booking is easy with virtually no waiting time.
If the unvaccinated are clogging up our hospitals and delaying thousands of surgeries (which they are) then it should be a concern to everyone. Thankfully Omicron isn't making most who get it very sick. Things will hopefully get back to normal. They 90% or so who chose to get vaccinated are the real heroes. Otherwise we'd be in a very serious pickle.
 
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He is already dropping hinting in a few weeks masking will no longer be mandated. WAY TO GO DOUG!! All he needs to do is make it optional, then you can decide for yourself to keep wearing them.

The greatest at risk are the unvaccinated, they should no longer keep you up at night Doug.
There'll never be a problem if people continue to wear masks if they choose to. Look at Asia, many people have worn masks at the first sign of a cold, long before the pandemic. Why, to protect others. You have to admire a society that does that kind of thing.

I think you'll find many LTC homes (including the one my parents are in) will continue to be quite vigilant when it comes to testing and mandating masks for visitors and staff. Nothing wrong with that. The old folks deserve to have us do everything to keep them safe. Precious cargo our loved ones are...
 

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He is already dropping hinting in a few weeks masking will no longer be mandated. WAY TO GO DOUG!! All he needs to do is make it optional, then you can decide for yourself to keep wearing them.

The greatest at risk are the unvaccinated, they should no longer keep you up at night Doug.
Unlike last year this time round Douggie categorically stated that he will be taking the advice of the medical expert Dr Moore. Last time around though these experts were warning about opening too early, all he did was to go ahead and open up. Finally when push came to shove he had to shut the economy again. These irresponsible unvaccinated ones can go on protesting their nonsense called FreeDumb oops, Freedom!!

While Ford mentioned after March Break as a potential timeline, he also said he isn't ready to "set a date."

Ford said "there's no secret" he wants to drop the mask mandate, but he'll wait for Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Kieran Moore to give his recommendation that it is safe to do so.

"We'll wait for his advice and recommendations, and once he gives us recommendations we'll be able to move forward," Ford said. "There isn't a person I talk to who likes these masks, no one likes them, but I have to follow the advice."
 

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If the unvaccinated are clogging up our hospitals and delaying thousands of surgeries (which they are) then it should be a concern to everyone. Thankfully Omicron isn't making most who get it very sick. Things will hopefully get back to normal. They 90% or so who chose to get vaccinated are the real heroes. Otherwise we'd be in a very serious pickle.
No they are not. 150 in ICU with Covid mean jack shit. Ford and his buddies should reopen surgeries.
 

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Unlike last year this time round Douggie categorically stated that he will be taking the advice of the medical expert Dr Moore. Last time around though these experts were warning about opening too early, all he did was to go ahead and open up. Finally when push came to shove he had to shut the economy again. These irresponsible unvaccinated ones can go on protesting their nonsense called FreeDumb oops, Freedom!!



Ford is not waiting on Moore. Moore is waiting on Ford to say it is OK. This is pure politics now.
 

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Ford dropped a teaser to see what the reaction will be from the general population.
 

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Ford is not waiting on Moore. Moore is waiting on Ford to say it is OK. This is pure politics now.
So Doug Ford is the expert on it then?? All the medical experts including Moore raised concerns last time around when Ford opened up with regards to the restrictions.
He paid the price, then. Ohh well if he happens to be that "expert" this time around then well he will have a lot of explaining to do at the oncoming elections!!
 

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No they are not. 150 in ICU with Covid mean jack shit. Ford and his buddies should reopen surgeries.
That's now. Surgeries have been getting back on schedule since the last wave. It was bad for a while and a lot of the hospitalizations and ICU patients were unvaccinated. Fact!
 

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Saskatchewan ends all COVID-19 health measures

Saskatchewan has become the first province in Canada to lift all COVID-19 restrictions as its transitions to treating the virus like a common respiratory illness.

The Saskatchewan Party government on Monday removed its two remaining pandemic health orders, which included mandatory masking in indoor public places and a requirement to self-isolate for five days if positive for the infection.

The province scrapped its vaccine passports on Feb. 14.

“Booster shots are extremely protective against hospitalizations,” Shahab said. “The best thing we can do for ourselves, and reduce pressure in the health-care system, is to get boosted.”

About half of Saskatchewan adults have received their booster shot.

While health orders have lifted, the virus remains in communities throughout the province despite the wave fuelled by the Omicron variant peaking one to two weeks ago, said Shahab.

He estimates that about 20 per cent of the population was exposed to COVID-19 during the Omicron wave — about one out of every four households.

He estimates another 30 to 50 per cent of the population could be exposed over the next few weeks and months.

Results from PCR tests done in labs indicate about five to seven per cent of people have been positive for the subvariant, he said, but added it’s not a level of concern at this time.

The province prefers to protect people through vaccinations and treatment with antiviral drugs instead of broad public health measures that affect mental health and the economy, he said.

“At least for the short term, (we’re) not relying so much on mandatory measures, but more on getting boosted, staying home if ill, self-testing if you have concerns or are gathering with those who are at high-risk,” Shahab said.

“Those things are going to be more important for the next few weeks and months.”
 
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So what, who cares. Not our problem, its there's.
Maybe hasn't affected you directly, but it has with my family and friends. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and were told you'll have to wait another 8 months because there's a backlog, you'd be singing a different tune. Perhaps you should think of how it's affecting other people, not just yourself. One day you might just be on the other end of things.
 

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Maybe hasn't affected you directly, but it has with my family and friends. If you were waiting for cancer surgery and were told you'll have to wait another 8 months because there's a backlog, you'd be singing a different tune. Perhaps you should think of how it's affecting other people, not just yourself. One day you might just be on the other end of things.
Go complain to the 10% who are not triple vaccinated. The minority of the population should not be dictating to the majority how we should and should not live.

You can complain and protest all you want, come spring masking will be done and dusted.
 
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Mate. You have some real concerns that are beyond the boundaries of normal.

You keep talking about science???? From day ONE the science said the majority are fine. I don’t think you understand it. Nothing will stop transmission, no lockdowns, no vaccines, nothing.

Your last post is sooo irrational. Are you ok?

Wow. Your last post was nuts.
I know, it makes no sense to you that some people care about the welfare of others. Yes, the majority of people who get covid end up fine, especially if they've been vaccinated. The majority of drunk drivers don't kill anyone either so we should probably ignore that problem too.

Science is an idea where people make decisions based on evidence. If the evidence says covid is not longer an issue than that's what I'll go with. As it is, the hospitalization rate, death rate and rate of positivity (despite limits on testing) are all higher than before omicron hit.

And are you really doubting that much of Ford's decision making process is based on the election?
 

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Schools are not hotbed for transmission, no clue where you are getting this information from. Through out the whole pandemic, the young have largely not been impacted by Covid...
Yet schools were the first thing shut down in both the delta and omicron waves.


“The experts couldn’t tell us that it wouldn’t risk spreading dangerous variants and avoid us from moving to other stages [of reopening], it won’t risk the health of our kids. While no one wants kids back in school more than I do, as your premier, these aren’t risks I’m willing to take.”

Ford said that modelling shows “thousands” of new cases would arise as a result of reopening schools before more teachers and students are vaccinated.

The news comes despite Ford and Lecce repeatedly insisting in the past that schools are safe and students should be in class as much as possible.

But they changed their tune after closing classrooms in April, pointing the finger at more contagious variants of COVID-19 that first made their way to Canada in late December and early January.

 
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