Not a Lot of Sympathy for Putin

[GameBoy27]

With just about any topic in the news, you can always find people willing to argue both sides of the story. I'd say in the case of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, he's got a pretty small following of supporters.

Anyone in Putin's camp on this one?

 

[mandrill]

With just about any topic in the news, you can always find people willing to argue both sides of the story. I'd say in the case of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, he's got a pretty small following of supporters.

Anyone in Putin's camp on this one.

Notty? Danmand? Timber 1?

 

[Leimonis]

With just about any topic in the news, you can always find people willing to argue both sides of the story. I'd say in the case of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, he's got a pretty small following of supporters.

Anyone in Putin's camp on this one.

Is it a good time to remind that not that long ago President Trump was impeached for extorting Zelensky/Ukraine out of the millions of dollars of military aid?

 

[danmand]

Notty? Danmand? Timber 1?

I am disappointed to read this post. I thought better of you.

 

[NotADcotor]

Notty? Danmand? Timber 1?

I don't think Danmand is. I mean his whole resolve things with hugs not guns effectively amounts to giving Poutine free run as well as any other asshat with aggro settings on high, but I doubt he is on team Poutine in terms of approving what he is doing.

I blocked him pretty early but I think Crystal is on team Poutine based mostly on people's responses to him.

 

[GameBoy27]

Better yet, is anyone on here willing to admit they're on Putin's side and approve of what he's doing?

 

[rhuarc29]

Better yet, is anyone on here willing to admit they're on Putin's side and approve of what he's doing?

No. Reading Putin's justifications for invasion -- excuse me, a "special military operation" -- you could say that some of his arguments have some merit. The West has not been faultless since the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, most of Putin's arguments amount to whining and nationalistic nostalgia for when Russia was a greater power. There are a great many in Russia who have this irrevocable belief in the Russian people, and believe the collapse of the Soviet Union was a terrible fracturing of said people, brought on by the West, rather than inner faults. This invasion is an attempt to restore old world Russia, which doesn't justify the invasion of a sovereign country, nor the killing of innocents.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

If there are two sided for any argument, argue your way out of massing 200,000 troops on the border of a country and attacking a civilian population. Ukraine simply wasn't ever a threat. Russia insists they were/are. Discuss......Anyway, any argument Putin is trying on comes straight out of Hitler's playbook.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

What pisses me off. In general is that the West is just sort of watching from the sidelines and allowing the Russians a free hand. In reality, if the West got their finger out, they could possibly annihilate the Russian forces with air power and drones and missiles. The big problem is that you know that little cunt in the Kremlin is itching to use the "N" word.

 

[GameBoy27]

What pisses me off. In general is that the West is just sort of watching from the sidelines and allowing the Russians a free hand. In reality, if the West got their finger out, they could possibly annihilate the Russian forces with air power and drones and missiles. The big problem is that you know that little cunt in the Kremlin is itching to use the "N" word.

Ukraine isn't a NATO country. It's outside international law to intervene on that level.

 

[oil&gas]

If there are two sided for any argument, argue your way out of massing 200,000 troops on the border of a country and attacking a civilian population. Ukraine simply wasn't ever a threat. Russia insists they were/are. Discuss......Anyway, any argument Putin is trying on comes straight out of Hitler's playbook.

Would it be correct to say Cuba was no threat to the U.S. when JFK placed
a naval blockade around it? The blockade didn't kill a civilian population but
it certainly put the world at risk of nuclear war.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Would it be correct to say Cuba was no threat to the U.S. when JFK placed
a naval blockade around it? The blockade didn't kill a civilian population but
it certainly put the world at risk of nuclear war.

So if you are trying to make some kind of analogy you are failing completely. But ok, The Russians were setting up nuclear weapons sites in Cuba which were a threat to the US, which led to a stand off.
Ukraine agreed to surrender Russian nuclear weapons back to Russia in exchange for the promise by Russia that they wouldn't invade the Ukraine because Ukraine had surrendered said weapons.
See the difference?

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Ukraine isn't a NATO country. It's outside international law to intervene on that level.

Haven't read the small print, but I think it is outside international law to invade another country.

 

[Darts]

Here's what I think of Putin's whining (see video below). Russia is a 3rd rate country (with nukes), sort of like a European North Korea.

http://imgur.com/aUGjQaQ

 

[mandrill]

Would it be correct to say Cuba was no threat to the U.S. when JFK placed
a naval blockade around it? The blockade didn't kill a civilian population but
it certainly put the world at risk of nuclear war.

Would you equate Russian-American relations at the height of the Cold War to Russian-American relations in 2021?

Cos I sure as fuck wouldn't!!

It's 1 thing to object to nukes 100 miles away from Miami when they're deliberately put there by a bitter global adversary in 1963. But the risk that maybe-maybe there might be nukes in Kharkiv if maybe-maybe Ukraine maybe-maybe joined NATO maybe-maybe in a few years time maybe-maybe, when the USA has actually been friendly to Russia since the 1990's is not nearly on the same order.

It's bullshit. Putin has spun a line of crap to his slave people since 2014 that the USA is about to nuke Moscow "because the US envies the splendour of Glorious Russia and also wants to seize Siberia" (for whatever fucking bullshit reason Putin makes up from time to time). None of that is true. The external enemy shtick just keeps Russians in line so Putin can drain them and abuse them a little longer.

The USA has done asshole stuff a bunch of times over the years. But usually there are years of signalling ahead of the pounce. And the US doesn't pick on countries that can fight back. Russia can fight back. The sort of country the US beats up is Panama, Libya or Grenada. If Biden was going to knock over Russia, we'd have heard about it. And he would have been quickly removed as PotUS for everyone's safety.

 

[shakenbake]

With just about any topic in the news, you can always find people willing to argue both sides of the story. I'd say in the case of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, he's got a pretty small following of supporters.

Anyone in Putin's camp on this one?

Yes, buttheads like tRump and zBrazil’s bullshitnaro.

 

[Darts]

Maybe some liberal lefty country will offer him asylum where he can have his $billions and all the pussy he can handle.

Mind you, leaving Russia didn't save Trotsky (who also happened to be Ukrainian).
Leon Trotsky - Wikipedia

BTW: Many of the revolutionaries were Jewish but that will have to be the subject of another post.

 

[Dave58]

Anyone in Putin's camp on this one?

Yea, Trump, his enablers and his supporters

 

[ottawa_cuck]

I’m neutral to Putin. If Russia didn’t have nukes they’d be invaded based on lies by the US a long time ago, just like 2003 Iraq. America lies. A lot.

By the way, I love how western media is rooting for the Ukranians. It’s very touching to see everyone send money and support to Ukranians. They seem like good people.

African Students Fleeing Ukraine Report Being Told 'No Blacks' on Buses

Race is apparently a factor for people trying to flee Ukraine as fighting rages following Russia's invasion.

urbanhollywood411.com

 

[Frankfooter]

I’m neutral to Putin. If Russia didn’t have nukes they’d be invaded based on lies by the US a long time ago, just like 2003 Iraq. America lies. A lot.

By the way, I love how western media is rooting for the Ukranians. It’s very touching to see everyone send money and support to Ukranians. They seem like good people.

African Students Fleeing Ukraine Report Being Told 'No Blacks' on Buses

Race is apparently a factor for people trying to flee Ukraine as fighting rages following Russia's invasion.

urbanhollywood411.com

People still like Canadians even after a convoy of white supremacist anti vaxxers tried to start an insurrection.