Would Galileo Be Good Enough for Woke America?

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Huge stretch to try and make the Galileo thing work in that.
Kudos to the author for going big, I guess.

Its pretty common in schools these days. Founding PM dosnt make the cut his statue removed and soon a villain of history. 1984 censored for its non woke content without a touch of irony. Math considered racist by definition. The list goes on. Until we abond old langues like Enlgish which are fundementally racist and move to Klingon or Esperanto these issues will haunt us still. All langgues not invented in the last 100 years must be made illegal.
 
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It's idiocy to judge the past by our standards. That way we can cancel ALL our past and what would that solve? How about this, how would Galileo feel about us from his perspective?
 
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Is anybody good enough for woke america? The movement isn't about equality or diversity or fairness. It's about hate. These people have to hate somebody all the time. They have already and will continue to move the goalposts and turn on themselves
 

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Galileo spent the last nine years of his life in house arrest. History would have forgotten him if his notebooks were not smuggled to Amsterdam.

What would he say about today's holier than thou peons...probably the same things as Lo Russo.

 

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Its pretty common in schools these days. Founding PM dosnt make the cut his statue removed and soon a villain of history. 1984 censored for its non woke content without a touch of irony. Math considered racist by definition. The list goes on. Until we abond old langues like Enlgish which are fundementally racist and move to Klingon or Esperanto these issues will haunt us still. All langgues not invented in the last 100 years must be made illegal.
What are you babbling about?

There are real issues with subjects being banned and books being burned and you're babbling about Klingon.
 
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Valcazar

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OK, putting aside the fluff piece that started this, if we all think the Galileo route is bad, then we are all agreed that the anti-CRT movement has to be stopped, right?
Pulling curriculum, monitoring teachers, banning books from libraries, even burning them?

We all agree this is out of control, right?
 

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Is anybody good enough for woke america? The movement isn't about equality or diversity or fairness. It's about hate. These people have to hate somebody all the time. They have already and will continue to move the goalposts and turn on themselves
Yeah, don't you just hate that???
 

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Is anybody good enough for woke america? The movement isn't about equality or diversity or fairness. It's about hate. These people have to hate somebody all the time. They have already and will continue to move the goalposts and turn on themselves
As I’ve said over and over, it’s not about politics, left or right, equality or justice it’s purely about haters full of nothing but hatred no matter how much they try to deflect with humour. Nothing in their soulless bodies but seething hatred.
 

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As I’ve said over and over, it’s not about politics, left or right, equality or justice it’s purely about haters full of nothing but hatred no matter how much they try to deflect with humour. Nothing in their soulless bodies but seething hatred.
Wokeism is a poison. Its aim is division, return to racism, segregation, censorship and class hatred.
 

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Huge stretch to try and make the Galileo thing work in that.
Kudos to the author for going big, I guess.
I think it is safe to assume this is an article and a point of view that would not appeal to you.
 
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Galileo was thrown in prison and some of the clergy were in favor of torturing him. This guy just lost his job and is free to say whatever he wants. That's where the analogy really breaks down...
conservatives in the Church that went after him because he was turning the conventional wisdom on its head. Now, in the US conservatives are burning books and trying to outlaw teachings about race and slavery.As with the Church and now withe the US they are fearful of questioning conventional wisdom. Nice try though.
 
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Now, in the US conservatives are burning books and trying to outlaw teachings about race and slavery.As with the Church and now withe the US they are fearful of questioning conventional wisdom. Nice try though.
Leftist educators are trying to teach opinions about race and history to grade school children. It's almost an institutionalizing of "white guilt" for 6-11 year olds. It's an absurd extension of opinion and politics into grade schools.

Every American child has always been taught the facts about slavery and racism.
 
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This is a guy that exemplifies deflection.
Leftist educators are trying to teach opinions about race and history to grade school children. It's almost an institutionalizing of "white guilt" for 6-11 year olds. It's an absurd extension of opinion and politics into grade schools.

Every American child has always been taught the facts about slavery and racism.
Amazing.
You two, faced with a curriculum you don't like, support using the power of the state to censor ideas, control teachers, suppress dissent, and burn books.

And you think you're defending free speech doing it.

Just amazing.
 

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Leftist educators are trying to teach opinions about race and history to grade school children. It's almost an institutionalizing of "white guilt" for 6-11 year olds. It's an absurd extension of opinion and politics into grade schools.

Every American child has always been taught the facts about slavery and racism.
I agree with this 100% but I would change the word “almost” to “ totally”

It’s TOTALLY an institutionalizing of “white guilt” for 6-11 year olds. Except they call it “critical race theory”.
 

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Amazing.
You two, faced with a curriculum you don't like, support using the power of the state to censor ideas, control teachers, suppress dissent, and burn books.

And you think you're defending free speech doing it.

Just amazing.
I think you are missing the bigger point. In the U.S. parents collectively have input into curriculum. In many school districts, local parents decide who is on the school boards that in turn decide curriculum. Unfortunately in many large American cities, Mayors control who sits on the school boards diluting the influence of parents.

As far as your dramatic rhetoric over censoring ideas, controlling teachers, suppressing dissent and burning books, we would have to have some context. This has nothing to do with free speech. It has everything to do with parents deciding what their children are taught. If ideas about history and racism are more political than informational/factual, parents are in their right to censor and suppress.

When did you become so brazenly critical? This is not your style. Me thinks the hyper-aggressive liberals that are now more common on this forum have emboldened each other.
 
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I think you are missing the bigger point. In the U.S. parents collectively have input into curriculum. In many school districts, local parents decide who is on the school boards that in turn decide curriculum. Unfortunately in many large American cities, Mayors control who sits on the school boards diluting the influence of parents.

As far as your dramatic rhetoric over censoring ideas, controlling teachers, suppressing dissent and burning books, we would have to have some context. This has nothing to do with free speech. It has everything to do with parents deciding what their children are taught. If ideas about history and racism are more political than informational/factual, parents are in their right to censor and suppress.

When did you become so brazenly critical? This is not your style. Me thinks the hyper-aggressive liberals that are now more common on this forum have emboldened each other.
No…. The bigger point sailed over your head. You give yourself a pass trying to censor ideas you don’t agree with… while claiming people are cancelling your ideas.
Amazing.
You two, faced with a curriculum you don't like, support using the power of the state to censor ideas, control teachers, suppress dissent, and burn books.

And you think you're defending free speech doing it.

Just amazing.
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