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[Jenesis]

They were protesting in Toronto, Vancouver and Quebec City. Try to keep up with the news

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/convoys-converge-for-noisy-protest-against-covid-19-measures-in-quebec-city-1.6340944

Vancouver protest: Hundreds converge on downtown to oppose health mandates

Vancouver police said five people had been arrested during the protest, and that they received numerous reports on vandalism and mischief.

vancouversun.com

Toronto protest against vaccine mandates takes over some downtown streets

The sound of honking trucks echoed through the streets of downtown Toronto Saturday as a large crowd of protesters descended upon the city to demand the end of COVID-19 restrictions.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

yes they did. Late. After they were told by the other side that their protest in Ottawa was pointless. LOL

 

[massman]

But he didn’t identify (if he actually said it) a single person and some, very minority some but some did fly racist flags. So would not win in court. Although I would love to see someone take someone to court over all this. That is the only place that something can be done.




I know he called them a fringe minority. That was the big one I heard from him.

I’d argue that the trucker protesters are a fringe minority. However I don’t agree with him labelling this way, there needn’t be more division. Before the protests he just should have said “I don’t agree with their position, which is contrary to science and the best public health advice. However I do support the right to protest, and along with that right is to do so peacefully and respectfully toward your fellow citizens “.

 

[Jenesis]

I’d argue that the trucker protesters are a fringe minority. However I don’t agree with him labelling this way, there needn’t be more division. Before the protests he just should have said “I don’t agree with their position, which is contrary to science and the best public health advice. However I do support the right to protest, and along with that right is to do so peacefully and respectfully toward your fellow citizens “.

Oh for sure that should have been his line. Totally agree. But as a call it as I see it girl and because he is such a pussy in other ways, I have to admit I was somewhat pleasantly surprised when he called them a fringe minority.

Again, not the right way to go though.

 

[LickingG2]

But we are here. This is who is in power and he just got re-elected.

So again, what is the solution? The majority have spoken. They voted. That is what a democracy is. So when the majority have done this whether you agree or not, do you believe the solution is civil unrest and a revolt?

No I don't. You missed point completely yet again. I saying that Trudeau doesn't seem to be handling this situation well so far and the minority are make him look ineffective.

 

[Jenesis]

No I don't. You missed point completely yet again. I saying that Trudeau doesn't seem to be handling this situation well so far and the minority are make him look ineffective.

A two year old can make him look ineffective. You didn’t need to debate that. At least not with me.

But I have been asking and not a single person, on either side as answered, what is the solution? Maybe I will post another thread with this question directly.

EDIT / I started a thread for it if you would like to give your answer there. If not, no big. Happy Sunday!

 

[simon482]

What you just wrote is nonsense.

The "presumption of innocence" applies to court proceedings only. Trudeau doesn't have to prove dick. And in any event, the proof is pretty evident from who the organizers are and the flags the protestors carried.

99% of the flags I saw were Canadian. I saw 1 soviet flag which was cringe and a very small amount of gadsen flags.

 

[danmand]

A two year old can make him look ineffective. You didn’t need to debate that. At least not with me.

But I have been asking and not a single person, on either side as answered, what is the solution? Maybe I will post another thread with this question directly.

EDIT / I started a thread for it if you would like to give your answer there. If not, no big. Happy Sunday!

The solution is that the pandemic will lose steam in a couple of weeks, when the Omicron wave fizzles out. Then all restrictions will be lifted.

The conservatives will declare victory and claim that the protests stopped the virus.

 

[Jenesis]

99% of the flags I saw were Canadian. I saw 1 soviet flag which was cringe and a very small amount of gadsen flags.

I saw like 2 confederate flags, one flag with a swastika and few upside down Canadian flags. Didn’t see the Soviet one.

I know I didn’t see them all but I agree 99% were Canadian.

 

[blueray]

Big difference. Indins were actually on their own land

Hmm. I guess thats why the courts in the country said get the fuck off the tracks.

 

[danmand]

I saw like 2 confederate flags, one flag with a swastika and few upside down Canadian flags. Didn’t see the Soviet one.

I know I didn’t see them all but I agree 99% were Canadian.

That is only because the yahoos did not know where to get confederate flags.

 

[simon482]

I saw like 2 confederate flags, one flag with a swastika and few upside down Canadian flags. Didn’t see the Soviet one.

I know I didn’t see them all but I agree 99% were Canadian.

Were you there or just pictures? Not asking in an attacking way if it came across that way.

Upside down flag just mean distress. Nothing wrong with that imo.

 

[LickingG2]

The solution is that the pandemic will lose steam in a couple of weeks, when the Omicron wave fizzles out. Then all restrictions will be lifted.

The conservatives will declare victory and claim that the protests stopped the virus.

A number of countries, some high case counts like the UK, have eased or eliminated restrictions already so I think you are right - except for part about claiming victory. Nobody wins in this case.
On the Ottawa protest news coverage I saw one fool on horseback with a Trump flag. That gives the protesters a bad name right there.

 

[Jenesis]

Were you there or just pictures? Not asking in an attacking way if it came across that way.

Upside down flag just mean distress. Nothing wrong with that imo.

I know the meaning and not complaining. Just pointing out what I saw.

I was not there. A couple of friends where last weekend and were on the bridges and stuff. So I have videos and stuff from them. Plus the news, the convoy social media pages. I do try to get my news from a variety of sources.

I personally don’t support this type of protest. More so the one blocking food in Alberta. This one I don’t support for the hostage take over style. It’s just my personal feelings on protests. I support the request to remove vaccine mandates but just can’t get behind this style of protesting. If that makes sense. To some they feel I’m hypocritical because I don’t support the mandates but I don’t support this type of protest either.

 

[simon482]

I know the meaning and not complaining. Just pointing out what I saw.

I was not there. A couple of friends where last weekend and were on the bridges and stuff. So I have videos and stuff from them. Plus the news, the convoy social media pages. I do try to get my news from a variety of sources.

I personally don’t support this type of protest. More so the one blocking food in Alberta. This one I don’t support for the hostage take over style. It’s just my personal feelings on protests. I support the request to remove vaccine mandates but just can’t get behind this style of protesting. If that makes sense. To some they feel I’m hypocritical because I don’t support the mandates but I don’t support this type of protest either.

I only asked because everyone EVERYONE is attaching their own spin on what is reported to suit the agenda they support.

News is no longer news, it's media. If you have the ability to see it first hand do it. A digital view is lying.

And I wasn't attacking you and we share similar views politically but not about protests. I thought it was becoming something that it very much isn't.

 

[Jenesis]

I only asked because everyone EVERYONE is attaching their own spin on what is reported to suit the agenda they support.

News is no longer news, it's media. If you have the ability to see it first hand do it. A digital view is lying.

And I wasn't attacking you and we share similar views politically but not about protests. I thought it was becoming something that it very much isn't.

Didn’t take it as an attack at all sweetie. We’re good. If I call you pumpkin or booboo though - look out!

And I agree. Lots of people put their spin on it. I try very hard to get well rounded information from many sources and then decide. Some agree, some don’t. Sometimes I’m right or wrong. If wrong, I’m pretty good at owning it. I think anyways. LOL

 

[simon482]

Didn’t take it as an attack at all sweetie. We’re good. If I call you pumpkin or booboo though - look out!

And I agree. Lots of people put their spin on it. I try very hard to get well rounded information from many sources and then decide. Some agree, some don’t. Sometimes I’m right or wrong. If wrong, I’m pretty good at owning it. I think anyways. LOL

It's why I don't engage with a vast majority of the people that post here. I deal with enough condescending bullshit in my daily life and most guys here can't seem to post without it.

This is what I know-

Trusting people that profit off you being sick to keep you healthy is dangerous.

Trusting the government to take care of you and do the right thing for you is more dangerous, ask the indigenous people how that turns out.

This is a fact-

The vaccine first dose put my daughter in the hospital and she's been diagnosed with extreme vertigo and is on pills for the rest of her life. The peer pressure from people saying "get the shot or people will die" or variations of that had her get 2 more shots and both put her in the hospital.

 

[The LoLRus]

Isn't that what's called a "coup", Oracle?

As opposed to an "election", which is how Canadians usually do things?

A peaceful protest on the front lawn of Parliament Hill is now considered a coup in your opinion??

 

[squeezer]

The same "END THE MANDATES" message applies to every provincial premier as well

So if Justin were to cave into removing the mandates from the border (which he won't) and the Premiers in Canada follow suit (Ford might cave in because of an election in June), TELL ME what changes in the way of travelling???? What other countries do, Canadian have NO say in the matter. Biden keeps the Vaccine mandate on the border, it doesn't make one bit of difference what Justin does but hey, the protestors I'm sure have this all figured out as they freeze their asses off outside.

 

[squeezer]

Protesting on the front lawn of Parliament Hill is now considered a coup in your opinion??

Protesting peacefully and going home at the end of the day maybe, blowing horns all night, camping out, that is an occupation and should be dealt with a heavy hand. It gave me great joy when the organizers lost their Gofundme account and now being sued.

 

[simon482]

So if Justin were to cave into removing the mandates from the border (which he won't) and the Premiers in Canada follow suit (Ford might cave in because of an election in June), TELL ME what changes in the way of travelling???? What other countries do, Canadian have NO say in the matter. Biden keeps the Vaccine mandate on the border, it doesn't make one bit of difference what Justin does but hey, the protestors I'm sure have this all figured out as they freeze their asses off outside.

Do you care about your house if your neighbors don't care about theirs?

Seems lazy to say "they aren't doing anything so I don't know why we are".