The global energy crisis - Green fairy tales collide with reality

JohnLarue

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Caused by the unreliability of Nuclear Power.

Sorry, I forgot, here on Terb it is only wind and solar that is unreliable.
Well there you have it
The left finally admitting wind and solar are not reliable

So why the mad rush to shut down what is reliable?
that will only get people killed


Nuclear is immensely more reliable than wind or solar yet that is a moot point as
Will the left accepts nuclear as a viable solution to the non-problem ?
Hell (or a good portion of Europe) will freeze over first
 

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Well there you have it
The left finally admitting wind and solar are not reliable

So why the mad rush to shut down what is reliable?
that will only get people killed


Nuclear is immensely more reliable than wind or solar yet that is a moot point as
Will the left accepts nuclear as a viable solution to the non-problem ?
Hell (or a good portion of Europe) will freeze over first
Sarcasm is lost on you.
You should have read the news so you'd know its problems with nuclear that are causing the shortages.
Oh well.
 

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The climate crowd's "Godfather of Global Warming" - James Hansen, the former head of the climate research area (GISS) at NASA - has said for years there is no credible way to reduce man-made emissions that doesn't involve a substantial role for nuclear power.

 

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Stop trolling. If you had read that link, you would have realized there's nothing in it that defends your position.
Curry takes money from the oil industry.
Here's another that once again shows that I am right.


The climate crowd's "Godfather of Global Warming" - James Hansen, the former head of the climate research area (GISS) at NASA - has said for years there is no credible way to reduce man-made emissions that doesn't involve a substantial role for nuclear power.
Hansen may be right, after all, we need drastic action soon.
But just out of curiosity, unless you are some religious/faith based science denier, I assume that there must be some form of evidence that could convince you that you're wrong and climate change is a major problem.

What kind of evidence would it take to make you accept the findings of the IPCC?
And what sources will you accept as trustworthy for this evidence?

Just curious.

 

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The climate crowd's "Godfather of Global Warming" - James Hansen, the former head of the climate research area (GISS) at NASA - has said for years there is no credible way to reduce man-made emissions that doesn't involve a substantial role for nuclear power.
Sadly, nuclear power is unreliable.
 
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From Bad To Worse: Another French Nuclear Reactor Cuts Output Due To Strike

TUESDAY, DEC 21, 2021 - 05:45 AM
France's energy crisis worsened overnight when another nuclear power plant had to reduce electricity output. Power prices jumped as the government requested one of the largest utility companies to restart more nuclear reactors amid cold weather.
Following last week's shuttering of two nuclear power plants by Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, a French electric utility company primarily owned by the state, after safety inspections found cracks in at least one nuclear reactor, another one was closed Monday due to a worker strike.
EDF said an unplanned outage at the Bugey Nuclear Power Plant in eastern France was due to a strike. Output at reactor four was cut from 800 megawatts to 180 megawatts.

France's grid remains under pressure due to the recent nuclear power plant loss. The day-ahead power price rose to the highest level since 2009 on Sunday and was priced even higher on Monday.

At least 25% of the EDF's 56 atomic reactors are offline for maintenance. For some context, this is highly unusual for this time of year, considering the Northern Hemisphere winter is about to begin. A cold spell has sent much of the country into a deep freeze as power demand soars.
Like everywhere else in Europe, the power crisis in France has worsened Monday as power prices from France to Germany are at elevated levels.
 

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From Bad To Worse: Another French Nuclear Reactor Cuts Output Due To Strike

TUESDAY, DEC 21, 2021 - 05:45 AM
France's energy crisis worsened overnight when another nuclear power plant had to reduce electricity output. Power prices jumped as the government requested one of the largest utility companies to restart more nuclear reactors amid cold weather.
Following last week's shuttering of two nuclear power plants by Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, a French electric utility company primarily owned by the state, after safety inspections found cracks in at least one nuclear reactor, another one was closed Monday due to a worker strike.
EDF said an unplanned outage at the Bugey Nuclear Power Plant in eastern France was due to a strike. Output at reactor four was cut from 800 megawatts to 180 megawatts.

France's grid remains under pressure due to the recent nuclear power plant loss. The day-ahead power price rose to the highest level since 2009 on Sunday and was priced even higher on Monday.

At least 25% of the EDF's 56 atomic reactors are offline for maintenance. For some context, this is highly unusual for this time of year, considering the Northern Hemisphere winter is about to begin. A cold spell has sent much of the country into a deep freeze as power demand soars.
Like everywhere else in Europe, the power crisis in France has worsened Monday as power prices from France to Germany are at elevated levels.

So it is the unionized workers who are unreliable, not nuclear energy
 

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So it is the unionized workers who are unreliable, not nuclear energy
Read again:

Following last week's shuttering of two nuclear power plants by Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, a French electric utility company primarily owned by the state, after safety inspections found cracks in at least one nuclear reactor
 
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jcpro

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Read again:

Following last week's shuttering of two nuclear power plants by Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, a French electric utility company primarily owned by the state, after safety inspections found cracks in at least one nuclear reactor
Yes, energy producing infrastructure requires maintenance and very high safety standards.
 

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Read again:

Following last week's shuttering of two nuclear power plants by Électricité de France S.A., commonly known as EDF, a French electric utility company primarily owned by the state, after safety inspections found cracks in at least one nuclear reactor

Another French Nuclear Reactor Cuts Output Due To Strike

You can not seriously think the reliability of wind and solar is anywhere near the reliability of nuclear
 

danmand

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There is a pipeline sitting idle that could deliver the natural gas Germany (and Europe) needs.

Talk about self inflicted problems.
 

JohnLarue

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There is a pipeline sitting idle that could deliver the natural gas Germany (and Europe) needs.

Talk about self inflicted problems.
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The self inflicted part started when the loonies shut down reliable energy without having a reliable substitute in place
And now you are looking to blame someone else????
 

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So it is the unionized workers who are unreliable, not nuclear energy
Indeed, the debate over the reliability of nuclear is absurd.

Greenies who oppose nuclear power have their reasons and we can debate the legitimacy of their arguments. But no one seriously believes the issue is reliability.

In fact, access to reliable nuclear power is the primary reason Ontario was able to phase out its coal power plants.
 

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But just out of curiosity, unless you are some religious/faith based science denier, I assume that there must be some form of evidence that could convince you that you're wrong and climate change is a major problem.

What kind of evidence would it take to make you accept the findings of the IPCC?
And what sources will you accept as trustworthy for this evidence?

Just curious.
Well, 30-plus years of spectacularly wrong predictions - from the end of snow to the Himalayan glaciers disappearing 14 years from now - haven't done anything to build my confidence in the IPCC.

Here's a blast from the past. In November 2015, I said the IPCC's 2001 prediction that the temperature could increase by as much as 5.8C by the end of the century was total bullshit.



Six years later, nobody believes the temperature increase will be anywhere near that much, even in a worst-case scenario.
 
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