Is Joe Biden after 10 months: Worst president ever?

mandrill

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Clearly Joe's on a roll and the "achievements" just keep on coming.

Actually, Justin caused global inflation. I read it in one of O' Toole's tweets on Twitter.

But actually Boris Johnson and Brexit caused global inflation. I read it in an anti Brexit tweet on Twitter.

But I LUV the Breitbart quote anyway.
 
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jcpro

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Actually, Justin caused global inflation. I read it in one of O' Toole's tweets on Twitter.

But actually Boris Johnson and Brexit caused global inflation. I read it in an anti Brexit tweet on Twitter.

But I LUV the Breitbart quote anyway.
Numbers are numbers and responsibility is responsibility. I use Breitbart because I know how much.you people appreciate it.
 

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Did anyone read this article before commenting against Biden??? Definitely a skewed opinion piece of rubbish that’s full of unsubstantiated claims. Fact of the matter is Trump will forever hold this distinction. Biden may not be the best but definitely not the worst. Get over it. Trump lost
 

mandrill

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Numbers are numbers and responsibility is responsibility. I use Breitbart because I know how much.you people appreciate it.
Except that none of those national leaders is responsible for the inflation because it's worldwide. I just included them to show that ALL opposition parties - whether left or right - are attempting to use the same smear.

And anyway, shouldn't you be focussing on REAL news like the emails and texts from the Fox News hosts and GOP members that Liz Cheney is reading out? That stuff is just SHOCKING !!!
 
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Numbers are numbers and responsibility is responsibility. I use Breitbart because I know how much.you people appreciate it.
What I really love about Breitbart are the "chumbox" ads for aging products and other crap in the right hand margin. That's the sign of a true classy news reporting service!
 

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Except that none of those national leaders is responsible for the inflation because it's worldwide. I just included them to show that ALL opposition parties - whether left or right - are attempting to use the same smear.

And anyway, shouldn't you be focussing on REAL news like the emails and texts from the Fox News hosts and GOP members that Liz Cheney is reading out? That stuff is just SHOCKING !!!
Biden sure fucked over Belgium as they have inflation like the USA. In fact, all of Europe. In fact, the entire world. Thanks Biden. Even Murdoch's wall street journal agrees...
 
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Except that none of those national leaders is responsible for the inflation because it's worldwide. I just included them to show that ALL opposition parties - whether left or right - are attempting to use the same smear.

And anyway, shouldn't you be focussing on REAL news like the emails and texts from the Fox News hosts and GOP members that Liz Cheney is reading out? That stuff is just SHOCKING !!!
The real news is the falling standard of living. Nobody gives a shit about partisan games on the Hill.
 

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The real news is the falling standard of living. Nobody gives a shit about partisan games on the Hill.
You mean nobody on Breitbart, Fox or OAN will talk about the Mark Meadows texts, which is the news like this is.

Would you be for or against extraditing Assange, knowing that would mean he'd be questioned about the 2016 election and the hacking?
 
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You mean nobody on Breitbart, Fox or OAN will talk about the Mark Meadows texts, which is the news like this is.

Would you be for or against extraditing Assange, knowing that would mean he'd be questioned about the 2016 election and the hacking?
What I'm saying, and pretty clearly, that the circus on the Hill does not matter. The price of heating the house matters. The price at the check out in the grocery store matters even more. The rest is just background noise.
 

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The real news is the falling standard of living. Nobody gives a shit about partisan games on the Hill.
The standard of living has been falling for a lot longer than this recent bout of inflation. It goes beyond Trump and Obama. Wages have been fairly stagnant for 20 years, so more Americans and Canadians are feeling the pinch now. That's why you're also seeing the Great Resignation, where people are telling slave wage payers to fuck off. This will result in higher pay, and obviously prices. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though I know the owner class doesn't like it. Look at what Kellogge's did in Battle Creek. The union wanted equal pay for all workers, the company offered them a two-tier system with a minor raise, plus mandatory overtime and what not. When they voted no, Kellogges decides its the smart thing to fire all 1,400 workers and hire scabs. That is a bigger issue with the standard of living more than inflation.
 

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The standard of living has been falling for a lot longer than this recent bout of inflation. It goes beyond Trump and Obama. Wages have been fairly stagnant for 20 years, so more Americans and Canadians are feeling the pinch now. That's why you're also seeing the Great Resignation, where people are telling slave wage payers to fuck off. This will result in higher pay, and obviously prices. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though I know the owner class doesn't like it. Look at what Kellogge's did in Battle Creek. The union wanted equal pay for all workers, the company offered them a two-tier system with a minor raise, plus mandatory overtime and what not. When they voted no, Kellogges decides its the smart thing to fire all 1,400 workers and hire scabs. That is a bigger issue with the standard of living more than inflation.
Actually, the wages were going up under Trump and inflation was in check. Finder's keepers.
 

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You mean nobody on Breitbart, Fox or OAN will talk about the Mark Meadows texts, which is the news like this is.

Would you be for or against extraditing Assange, knowing that would mean he'd be questioned about the 2016 election and the hacking?
If he goes before Congress and tells the truth about everything they should let him go home...
 

mandrill

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What I'm saying, and pretty clearly, that the circus on the Hill does not matter. The price of heating the house matters. The price at the check out in the grocery store matters even more. The rest is just background noise.
I personally blame Joe Biden for the fact that I can't afford to buy a house in downtown Toronto and have to live in a condo. Joe Biden caused all that, starting about 15 years ago.
 

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The standard of living has been falling for a lot longer than this recent bout of inflation. It goes beyond Trump and Obama. Wages have been fairly stagnant for 20 years, so more Americans and Canadians are feeling the pinch now. That's why you're also seeing the Great Resignation, where people are telling slave wage payers to fuck off. This will result in higher pay, and obviously prices. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though I know the owner class doesn't like it. Look at what Kellogge's did in Battle Creek. The union wanted equal pay for all workers, the company offered them a two-tier system with a minor raise, plus mandatory overtime and what not. When they voted no, Kellogges decides its the smart thing to fire all 1,400 workers and hire scabs. That is a bigger issue with the standard of living more than inflation.
Betcha some GOP state legislature put in pro-company "right to work" legislation to screw over that union and help the company too.

Gotta LOVE the GOP!
 
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Late to the party here, and I can't be bothered reading through 16 pages of posts, but anybody who thinks that Joe Biden is the worst president ever has no appreciation of history. Without even mentioning #45, you'd have to take into account some of the true non-entities who served as president in the 19th century - people like Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanon and Andrew Johnson. In the 20th century you'd have to consider someone like Herbert Hoover, who was pretty much literally paralyzed when confronted by the Depression.

Biden's primary problem isn't that he's a "bad" president; it's that he's a "weak" president. He wasn't even an enthusiastic choice among Democrats to be their nominee. He was nominated with a kind of "sigh." He's having to deal with a country that seems hopelessly divided, with almost half of the country believing without a shred of credible evidence that he won the presidency fraudulently. He took office in the midst of a crisis; he has state governors who aren't doing much to help him out with that crisis. His party has very tenuous control of both houses of Congress, but both caucuses are divided between moderates and progressives so that Republicans still hold a lot of sway over what can be done.
Probably the best post in this thread. But the entire thread was started by the Fox News Gang to bait and troll the rest of the board and you're messing with their narrative.
 

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Actually, the US saw its biggest job loss since the depression under Trump.
This is true, but I cannot, in good conscience, blame him for this. No president or PM could avoid the massive layoffs that happened in the early stages of the pandemic. Now, Trump's mishandling of the pandemic is something else. Biden has done a great job, but the only reason there have been more deaths on his watch is because the GOP continues to poison the well when it comes to the vaccines and other mitigation policies (like masks).

So, I think it's an interesting time to ask all the anti-Biden people what they would do differently when it comes to inflation and the other issues affecting the economy? I'd be interested because the GOP doesn't seem to have a coherent policy about....welll, anything.
 
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This is true, but I cannot, in good conscience, blame him for this. No president or PM could avoid the massive layoffs that happened in the early stages of the pandemic. Now, Trump's mishandling of the pandemic is something else. Biden has done a great job, but the only reason there have been more deaths on his watch is because the GOP continues to poison the well when it comes to the vaccines and other mitigation policies (like masks).

So, I think it's an interesting time to ask all the anti-Biden people what they would do differently when it comes to inflation and the other issues affecting the economy? I'd be interested because the GOP doesn't seem to have a coherent policy about....welll, anything.
It's not about what could or couldn't have been done differently, it's all about what the current President did. On Covid more Americans died under Biden than under the previous President who did not have the benefit of vaccines. Biden promised to defeat Covid, BTW. Biden mishandled the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No matter what his flaks say, it was a clusterfuck on monumental scale that included dead Americans. Biden started his presidency killing energy sector- resulting in high energy prices. And last, but not least, he ignored the rising inflation- even called it transitory- until it was too late. The mess at the harbors deserves a dishonorable mention, too. Apparently his Transportation Secretary was too busy nursing. These are the reasons 67% of the independent voters want him to be an one term President. This is why he is polling poorly and the DNC is staring into the abyss.
 

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This is true, but I cannot, in good conscience, blame him for this. No president or PM could avoid the massive layoffs that happened in the early stages of the pandemic. Now, Trump's mishandling of the pandemic is something else. Biden has done a great job, but the only reason there have been more deaths on his watch is because the GOP continues to poison the well when it comes to the vaccines and other mitigation policies (like masks).

So, I think it's an interesting time to ask all the anti-Biden people what they would do differently when it comes to inflation and the other issues affecting the economy? I'd be interested because the GOP doesn't seem to have a coherent policy about....welll, anything.
Its applying the same logic as jc to the jobs issue. So if Biden is responsible for global inflation, Trump was responsible for jobs lost in a global pandemic. Of course Trump's policies made those job losses much worse even without the pandemic.
 
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