Is Joe Biden after 10 months: Worst president ever?

[Valcazar]

So, I think it's an interesting time to ask all the anti-Biden people what they would do differently when it comes to inflation and the other issues affecting the economy? I'd be interested because the GOP doesn't seem to have a coherent policy about....welll, anything.

They won't.
You think they have to present what they would have done otherwise.
They don't feel they need to do that. They will just point to what Biden did and say it was a failure.
That their approach would have made things worse isn't important as far as they are concerned and from a marketing/messaging point of view they are right.

Inflation is up, Biden is here, therefore Biden is blamed.
Yes, you could say "what would you have done differently" but they won't answer.
Or their answer will be "I wouldn't have had inflation go up!" if they bother.
Some might actually say "I would do this other thing and it would have worked, too!" because they can just say since it wasn't tried it would have worked. (This will be despite any evidence that what they intended to do would make things worse.)

I may not like it, but from a purely cynical "what works for our messaging" pov, it is sound strategy.

 

[silentkisser]

It's not about what could or couldn't have been done differently, it's all about what the current President did. On Covid more Americans died under Biden than under the previous President who did not have the benefit of vaccines. Biden promised to defeat Covid, BTW. Biden mishandled the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No matter what his flaks say, it was a clusterfuck on monumental scale that included dead Americans. Biden started his presidency killing energy sector- resulting in high energy prices. And last, but not least, he ignored the rising inflation- even called it transitory- until it was too late. The mess at the harbors deserves a dishonorable mention, too. Apparently his Transportation Secretary was too busy nursing. These are the reasons 67% of the independent voters want him to be an one term President. This is why he is polling poorly and the DNC is staring into the abyss.

OK, current president is dealing with a historically petty GOP who appear to be going out of their way to keep COVID going strong. They refuse to allow safety precautions, like having masks in public buildings, or even promote vaccines, let alone agree with vaccine mandates. Biden was able to get a staggering number of Americans vaccinated in a short time span. And he basically inherited zero infrastructure from Trump to accomplish this. The issue is that the GOP politicized the response back in March of 2020. So, while it is horrible that the death toll surged under Biden, the vast majority who died were unvaccinated at a time they had ample opportunity to get the shot. Biden has done EVERYTHING within his power to promote the vaccine and mitigate COVID. What do the vast majority of anti-vaxxers have in common??? A lot of them seem to live in counties that Trump won. A lot of them appear to vote GOP. A lot of them are conservatives. I should also say again: Biden did not neglect red states. They got ample supple of the vaccines. They are dying because the GOP wants to screw with Biden any way they can. And here's the thing, a slim majority believe Biden is handling COVID well. The shocker -- GOP supporters don't. But again, do they have any solutions or policies?

Sure, Afghanistan was a fuck up. But who negotiated the deal that led to this withdrawal??? Donald J. Trump. The man who let out 10,000 Taliban members out of jail without talking to the Afghan government. This also seems to have demoralized the Afghan army which blew away, much like Trump's "hair." I support the withdrawal. I mean, they could've stayed there for years, but would things have improved? It was a colossal waste of money and resources.

Also, nobody was ignoring inflation. This is just silly GOP talk. First, the President does not have a lot of power over inflation. The Federal Reserve is a independent body. They have the mandate to control monetary policy and tackle inflation. I mean, he could lower tariffs and what not, but he resolved much of the supply chain issues that he could. And today, the Fed is going to tighten the monetary supply. In a week or two, I'm sure we'll hear about the GOP bitching about how high interest rates are killing small businesses.

You and the GOP do not have nuanced arguments. Anything the Dems do is bad for America. Enshrining voting rights for everyone: bad for America. Getting affordable healthcare for people: bad for America. Giving people support when the pandemic hit: bad for America (even if the first few founds of cash came from Trump). Passing an infrastructure bill: bad for America. Full employment: bad for America.

As I've said many times on this board, it would be nice to hear a GOP policy or position on any of these topics besides saying what the Dems are doing is bad for America. But they can't. They're just focused on culture wars and lying about things like immigrant caravans, CRT, or Sesame Street's Big Bird getting the vaccine. They are literally a joke. They are so hypocritical that it makes my head hurt. They totally allow crazy spending when there is a GOP president, but lose their shit when a Democrat does anything. But, the rubes who watch Fox think it all makes sense. They are just so scared of the gays or jews or coloured or immigrants or muslims or women or anyone who isn't a straight white christian from having rights.

 

[Frankfooter]

OK, current president is dealing with a historically petty GOP who appear to be going out of their way to keep COVID going strong. They refuse to allow safety precautions, like having masks in public buildings, or even promote vaccines, let alone agree with vaccine mandates. Biden was able to get a staggering number of Americans vaccinated in a short time span.

Its almost like they are single handedly intentionally losing that demographic battle they call the 'white genocide'.
All those vaccinated Fox hosts telling their viewers not to get vaccinated.

Death by political party: The relationship between COVID‐19 deaths and political party affiliation in the United States

This study explored social factors that are associated with the US deaths caused by COVID‐19 after the declaration of economic reopening on May 1, 2020 by President Donald Trump. We seek to understand how county‐level support for ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[jcpro]

OK, current president is dealing with a historically petty GOP who appear to be going out of their way to keep COVID going strong. They refuse to allow safety precautions, like having masks in public buildings, or even promote vaccines, let alone agree with vaccine mandates. Biden was able to get a staggering number of Americans vaccinated in a short time span. And he basically inherited zero infrastructure from Trump to accomplish this. The issue is that the GOP politicized the response back in March of 2020. So, while it is horrible that the death toll surged under Biden, the vast majority who died were unvaccinated at a time they had ample opportunity to get the shot. Biden has done EVERYTHING within his power to promote the vaccine and mitigate COVID. What do the vast majority of anti-vaxxers have in common??? A lot of them seem to live in counties that Trump won. A lot of them appear to vote GOP. A lot of them are conservatives. I should also say again: Biden did not neglect red states. They got ample supple of the vaccines. They are dying because the GOP wants to screw with Biden any way they can. And here's the thing, a slim majority believe Biden is handling COVID well. The shocker -- GOP supporters don't. But again, do they have any solutions or policies?

Sure, Afghanistan was a fuck up. But who negotiated the deal that led to this withdrawal??? Donald J. Trump. The man who let out 10,000 Taliban members out of jail without talking to the Afghan government. This also seems to have demoralized the Afghan army which blew away, much like Trump's "hair." I support the withdrawal. I mean, they could've stayed there for years, but would things have improved? It was a colossal waste of money and resources.

Also, nobody was ignoring inflation. This is just silly GOP talk. First, the President does not have a lot of power over inflation. The Federal Reserve is a independent body. They have the mandate to control monetary policy and tackle inflation. I mean, he could lower tariffs and what not, but he resolved much of the supply chain issues that he could. And today, the Fed is going to tighten the monetary supply. In a week or two, I'm sure we'll hear about the GOP bitching about how high interest rates are killing small businesses.

You and the GOP do not have nuanced arguments. Anything the Dems do is bad for America. Enshrining voting rights for everyone: bad for America. Getting affordable healthcare for people: bad for America. Giving people support when the pandemic hit: bad for America (even if the first few founds of cash came from Trump). Passing an infrastructure bill: bad for America. Full employment: bad for America.

As I've said many times on this board, it would be nice to hear a GOP policy or position on any of these topics besides saying what the Dems are doing is bad for America. But they can't. They're just focused on culture wars and lying about things like immigrant caravans, CRT, or Sesame Street's Big Bird getting the vaccine. They are literally a joke. They are so hypocritical that it makes my head hurt. They totally allow crazy spending when there is a GOP president, but lose their shit when a Democrat does anything. But, the rubes who watch Fox think it all makes sense. They are just so scared of the gays or jews or coloured or immigrants or muslims or women or anyone who isn't a straight white christian from having rights.

No. You don't get to blame the opposition when you hold the White House, the House and the Senate. You don't get to blame the previous Executive when it's your time to make policy like the Afghan pull out. You don't get to cry about messaging on illegal immigration when the unfriendly media points out your inability to deal with it, accompanied by the daily videos of thousands illegals crashing the border. And no one will buy you concerns about the inflation when you insisted for most of the year on a $3 trillion spending bill only to see it die while your citizens are facing dramatic cost of living increases. And on Covid? Don't promise solutions when you have none. It is not an accident the polls are what they are.

 

[Frankfooter]

No. You don't get to blame the opposition when you hold the White House, the House and the Senate. You don't get to blame the previous Executive when it's your time to make policy like the Afghan pull out. You don't get to cry about messaging on illegal immigration when the unfriendly media points out your inability to deal with it, accompanied by the daily videos of thousands illegals crashing the border. And no one will buy you concerns about the inflation when you insisted for most of the year on a $3 trillion spending bill only to see it die while your citizens are facing dramatic cost of living increases. And on Covid? Don't promise solutions when you have none. It is not an accident the polls are what they are.

You mean the polls that are way down but still higher than Trump ever hit?

 

[mandrill]

It's not about what could or couldn't have been done differently, it's all about what the current President did. On Covid more Americans died under Biden than under the previous President who did not have the benefit of vaccines. Biden promised to defeat Covid, BTW. Biden mishandled the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No matter what his flaks say, it was a clusterfuck on monumental scale that included dead Americans. Biden started his presidency killing energy sector- resulting in high energy prices. And last, but not least, he ignored the rising inflation- even called it transitory- until it was too late. The mess at the harbors deserves a dishonorable mention, too. Apparently his Transportation Secretary was too busy nursing. These are the reasons 67% of the independent voters want him to be an one term President. This is why he is polling poorly and the DNC is staring into the abyss.

The "benefit" of vaccines is pretty debatable when DeSantis and Abbott and the other GOP titbags in the Southern states sabotage everything that Biden tries to do and then get people like you to blame him. when the death toll spikes.

And Afghanistan?..... The GOP right was table-thumping for Biden to get out sooner and then immediately changed their tune when the evacuation turned sour.

And the "harbours"?... I went through this with you before. Remember my cute story about how I went to Walmart three times before I could find a pair of cheap sneakers in size 10?... I guess Biden controls the distribution system in Canada as well? (Oh sorry, your buddy O' Toole already told everybody that was all 100% Justin's fault!)

Yeah, just like "Biden's" inflation. In Canada, the opposition calls it "Justin's" inflation. In the UK, the opposition says it's all "Boris's" fault. The inflation and supply chain blockages are everywhere.

Why would anyone take you seriously? All you do is quote Far right nonsense that dumbs everything down and says it's all Biden's fault.

 

[mandrill]

No. You don't get to blame the opposition when you hold the White House, the House and the Senate. You don't get to blame the previous Executive when it's your time to make policy like the Afghan pull out. You don't get to cry about messaging on illegal immigration when the unfriendly media points out your inability to deal with it, accompanied by the daily videos of thousands illegals crashing the border. And no one will buy you concerns about the inflation when you insisted for most of the year on a $3 trillion spending bill only to see it die while your citizens are facing dramatic cost of living increases. And on Covid? Don't promise solutions when you have none. It is not an accident the polls are what they are.

Umm, actually JC, he DOES get to do that. Since it was Trump's plan and Trump's deal and he'd been in office only about 6 months. Yup.

What videos of "thousands" of illegals crashing the border?.... You mean Fox got hold of some old videos of people running from a natural disaster 30 years ago? Just like Tucker shows videos of the anti vaxxer righties rioting in Amsterdam and claims it's antifa rioting in Portland?

Come to think of it, weren't there videos of illegals trying to crash the border when the caravans were coming in 2019 because those people heard that Trump was too dumb to do anything? Of course, those weren't "thousands". Just a few dozen.

 

[jcpro]

Umm, actually JC, he DOES get to do that. Since it was Trump's plan and Trump's deal and he'd been in office only about 6 months. Yup.

What videos of "thousands" of illegals crashing the border?.... You mean Fox got hold of some old videos of people running from a natural disaster 30 years ago? Just like Tucker shows videos of the anti vaxxer righties rioting in Amsterdam and claims it's antifa rioting in Portland?

Come to think of it, weren't there videos of illegals trying to crash the border when the caravans were coming in 2019 because those people heard that Trump was too dumb to do anything? Of course, those weren't "thousands". Just a few dozen.

Dude, seriously, get a shot of reality next time you go for another booster.

 

[Butler1000]

Another broken promise of student debt relief. No relief, and payments must start again Feb 1st. He just keeps on racking them up.

 

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Even AOC knows the present administration is rotten to the core borrowing the words from Ilham Omar...





dissension is a beautiful thing

 

[Butler1000]

Well with this complete collapse of Biden's domestic assistance package he just dropped further. If this results in the expected shelacking he drops further.

And if it results in a 2024 GOP landslide bottom 10 could be considered.

 

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As Biden’s first year in office comes to a close, he has proven to be one of the most divisive presidents in generations, surpassing even Donald Trump in his vindictiveness and willingness to demonize Americans who disagree with him...

As His Presidency Founders, Biden Scapegoats The Unvaccinated

Amid rising inflation, an ongoing border crisis, and a stalled legislative agenda, Biden is looking for someone to blame.

thefederalist.com

 

[toguy5252]

LMAO. The most idiotic thread of the years still going strong. Too funny.

 

[danmand]

LMAO. The most idiotic thread of the years still going strong. Too funny.

Hilarious indeed. Why is the thread not about why the Americans elected Biden.

If anybody here is a Professor in philosophy, maybe he can explain the inherent problem with the conservatives preventing Biden from enacting minimal social programs and then attacking him for being ineffectual.

 

[glamphotographer]

Some are saying Biden is too slow to respond to Omicron and channeling his inner Trump. Now %70 of the cases are Omicron in the US.

 

[toguy5252]

Hilarious indeed. Why is the thread not about why the Americans elected Biden.

If anybody here is a Professor in philosophy, maybe he can explain the inherent problem with the conservatives preventing Biden from enacting minimal social programs and then attacking him for being ineffectual.

What used to be the GOP has abandoned any pretense that they have any interest in governing. They have abandoned any hope of winning votes based upon arguments or principles. they have become the party of seizing power by any means for its own sake. l of thre phony so called audits etc, voter suppression, gerrymandering etc. The only guiding principle is bend the knee to the stable genius. You know the only twice impeached POTUS in history..

 

[Butler1000]

LMAO. The most idiotic thread of the years still going strong. Too funny.

As his approval rating continue to drop(he just went below Carter on the economy and is overall lower than the last several presidents at this time in the terms) its becoming more relevant. He certainly is not the worst. But judging from his broken promises, legislative failures, all talk no walk positions he is definitely close to bottom 10 now. And once he loses Congress his time will be seen as one of the lamest of lame ducks since last March.

 

[jcpro]

What used to be the GOP has abandoned any pretense that they have any interest in governing. They have abandoned any hope of winning votes based upon arguments or principles. they have become the party of seizing power by any means for its own sake. l of thre phony so called audits etc, voter suppression, gerrymandering etc. The only guiding principle is bend the knee to the stable genius. You know the only twice impeached POTUS in history..

Oh, you people are so disarmingly naive- like the kindergarten show and tell. The GOP is not in power. It actually got no say in pretty much anything. If they win back Congress, it will be because of the Democratic failures not because the Republicans are so beloved! The problem is- you people can see the Biden/Democrats shit show and the implosion of a presidency.... but you can't place the blame in the correct spot. So, thread after thread, you keep embarrassing yourselves by pretending that Trump's still in power and the GOP is the power on the Hill. Here's the reality. Biden is not running anything, his sitters are incompetent and the Democratic Party is fractured and infected with extremists.

 

[danmand]

Oh, you people are so disarmingly naive- like the kindergarten show and tell. The GOP is not in power. It actually got no say in pretty much anything. If they win back Congress, it will be because of the Democratic failures not because the Republicans are so beloved! The problem is- you people can see the Biden/Democrats shit show and the implosion of a presidency.... but you can't place the blame in the correct spot. So, thread after thread, you keep embarrassing yourselves by pretending that Trump's still in power and the GOP is the power on the Hill. Here's the reality. Biden is not running anything, his sitters are incompetent and the Democratic Party is fractured and infected with extremists.

OK, if nobody else will, maybe you can explain the philosophical conundrum when the conservatives prevents Biden from enacting any change and then attacks him for being ineffectual.

Don't you see the problem?

And while you are at it, please also be so kind as to explain why Americans were so stupid as to elect Biden, whom they surely knew well.

 

[jcpro]

OK, if nobody else will, maybe you can explain the philosophical conundrum when the conservatives prevents Biden from enacting any change and then attacks him for being ineffectual.

Don't you see the problem?

And while you are at it, please also be so kind as to explain why Americans were so stupid as to elect Biden, whom they surely knew well.

Lol!! You guys keep screaming "DEMOCRACY!!!" every couple of minutes and yet you fail to understand something so fundamental and necessary to the health of the democracy as parliamentary opposition. It's the job of the opposition to oppose. Just wait when the GOP takes back the Congress. Your tears of pity for poor Joe will be Niagara Falls.