At least 3 killed in shooting at Michigan high school

[shakenbake]

Won't be here much longer, working on moving my company south to the states.

Enjoy being able to visit this message board while you still can, your government is working on a bill that would allow them to basically put an end to free speech online

But as long as they silence the ones you dont agree with, people like you will cheer for it

You are leaving?

On your way out, Don’t let the door knob hit you where the Good Lord split you.

Good riddance to ex commie rubbish.

 

[Charlemagne]

You are leaving?

On your way out, Don’t let the door knob hit you where the Good Lord split you.

Good riddance to ex commie rubbish.

His business is probably trash.

 

[Indiana]

Pray for America

 

[basketcase]

So that means this is not a mass shooting

4 dead, 7 injured. Guess this qualifies.


Since the parents quickly lawyered up, we haven't heard where the kid got the hand gun from. But I'm sure it couldn't be the parents gun because I was told legally owned hand guns aren't a safety risk.

 

[basketcase]

It is the greatest country on earth
With freedom comes risk

That land of the free thing is a good myth.
From the Cato Institute Freedom Index. But maybe all their published work of conservative viewpoints on the law is really just a cover so they can report the US isn't all that free.

The jurisdictions that took the top 10 places, in order, were New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Ireland, Estonia, and Germany and Sweden (tied in 9th place). Selected countries rank as follows: Japan (11), the United Kingdom and the United States (tied in 17th place),

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2020

But sure, maybe 17 is better than 6.

 

[basketcase]

You seem to have a really really difficult time telling the difference between Canada and the United States I specifically said legally owned firearms in Canada are not a factor in the crime rate they are rarely used in crime

Right. Has a lot to do with Canada having much tighter regulations on handguns than the US. Still waiting for someone to tell me what civilian use handguns have in Canada other than target shooting.

dead is dead, hard to run in your home where most domestic violence happens.

insurance, people who shoot handguns have insurance at any club I have ever been too. Its cheap a few bucks a year for $5 million in coverage, Insurance measures risk and the risk is so low the cost is low. legally owned handguns are not the problem nor a risk to Canadians.

 

[contact]

Right. Has a lot to do with Canada having much tighter regulations on handguns than the US. Still waiting for someone to tell me what civilian use handguns have in Canada other than target shooting.

You made the claim that was the only legal use of handguns I challenged you to prove that , you have not I know what the other legal uses are. Now back up your claim

 

[basketcase]

You made the claim that was the only legal use of handguns I challenged you to prove that , you have not I know what the other legal uses are. Now back up your claim

Go back and check the thread where you were posting with your other handle. I was quite specific about my wording.


According to the fire arms act, with the rare exceptions of people authorized to carry for defence purposes, the only uses for a handgun are target shooting and to look at.


Permitted purposes

28 A chief firearms officer may approve the transfer to an individual of a restricted firearm or a handgun referred to in subsection 12(6.1) (pre-December 1, 1998 handguns) only if the chief firearms officer is satisfied

• (a) that the individual needs the restricted firearm or handgun
  • (i) to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals, or
  • (ii) for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation; or
• (b) that the purpose for which the individual wishes to acquire the restricted firearm or handgun is
  • (i) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under conditions specified in an authorization to transport or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29, or
  • (ii) to form part of a gun collection of the individual, in the case of an individual who satisfies the criteria described in section 30.
• 1995, c. 39, s. 28
• 2003, c. 8, s. 21

 

[mandrill]

Prosecutors May Also Charge Parents Of Michigan School Shooting Suspect

“Owning a gun means securing it properly and locking it and keeping the ammunition separate,” Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said.

www.huffpost.com

 

[basketcase]

Prosecutors May Also Charge Parents Of Michigan School Shooting Suspect

“Owning a gun means securing it properly and locking it and keeping the ammunition separate,” Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said.

www.huffpost.com

The gun used was purchased by his father just last Friday and the cops are saying it was absolutely premeditated. No wonder the parents lawyered up so quickly.

 

[shack]

It's now a mass shooting!
Death toll rises to 4!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/michigan-school-shooting-charges-1.6269907

Deaths is not the parameter. It is the number of people SHOT.There were already more than 4 people shot, making this already a mass shooting.

 

[Charlemagne]

Deaths is not the parameter. It is the number of people SHOT.There were already more than 4 people shot, making this already a mass shooting.

That's not the definition, according to what they go by in the USA.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

And I'll take freedom over the government telling me what I can do, think and say

But if you wanna live like a sheep that's your choice and I respect that

 

[Valcazar]

The definitions of mass shootings include domestics where more than 2 (or 3) people are shot, gangland shoot-outs with multiple vics and these public spree shootings. So it's hard to get much of an idea.

Yeah, there are a lot.

3 deaths or more. (With or without shooter included)
4 deaths or more (With or without shooter included)
3 people shot in one area in a limited time
4 people shot in one area in a limited time

And then I think some require only one person with a gun or only people "allied" together, so cross fire doesn't count.

It all gives slightly different numbers.

 

[Valcazar]

That land of the free thing is a good myth.
From the Cato Institute Freedom Index. But maybe all their published work of conservative viewpoints on the law is really just a cover so they can report the US isn't all that free.

Cato Institute is well-known Marxist trash.
/s

 

[Valcazar]

More importantly, you just outed your second handle. Whoops.

Amusing

 

[poker]

That's not the definition, according to what they go by in the USA.

Mass shooting, or mass murder?

 

[jalimon]

The response to US mass shooting is like their response to covid.

All lost lives are a price worth paying if that keeps their imagined freedom intact.

 

[Charlemagne]

Mass shooting, or mass murder?

Post 18.

 

[GameBoy27]

From Wiki... Media outlets such as CNN and some crime violence research groups such as the Gun Violence Archive define mass shootings as involving "four or more shot (injured or killed) in a single incident, at the same general time and location, not including the shooter". Sometimes shootings involving three or more victims occur in non-public situations such as when one member of a family shoots all the other members in the family home. These killings are known as familicides and are not included in mass shooting statistics.

Personally, I would call this latest event a mass shooting. It kinda makes sense to call it that.