You must admit that as a fan of the most decorated team in the history of the NHL, if the only thing that can make you feel better about your team is that they did better than the Leafs, you are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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dartsy, I have an internet question for you.
I understand when you say that you are frustrated when you are asked so many times about the Montreal System and how it worked.
Can you please provide us some links that describes how it works, the history of it, when it was first described etc.? That would be of great benefit to those of us who wish to learn more but do not want to impose upon your time. I searched for a number of wordings using Montreal System, but I can't find anything.
I hate to say it, but if I amazingly find no links to such a title, I'd almost be inclined to think that this is some concept that you invented. Please don't shatter my illusions of you and your knowledge of hockey. Please provide a link or two referencing the "Montreal System".
The Montreal system.
In the book, it was called "Strength Down Centre". In the taverns we call it "Strength Down the Middle".
"Strength down centre : the Jean Béliveau story
by Hood, Hugh, 1928- "
In the book, it was called "Strength Down Centre". In the taverns we call it "Strength Down the Middle".
"Strength down centre : the Jean Béliveau story
by Hood, Hugh, 1928- "
I've always known baseball as "Strength Down the Middle"...Catcher, Pitcher, SS/2B, CF...
Well if it's such a good "system", why hasn't it won them a cup in the last 27 years? Better yet, why doesn't every team use the Montreal system if it's so great? You know there was only 6 teams in the NHL when Beliveau started his career and just 14 when he retired. With such parody nowadays, it's infinitely more difficult to even make the playoffs these days.
They do. As described to us, the system is to get good players and to do that, you need a good general manager.
I always thought that it was a system of how to play the game on the ice. That would have been more educational than just saying that you need a good GM.
It is no coincidence that the Montreal system has not been very good since Sam Pollock retired as GM in 1978. And before him there was Frank Selke. Between the 2 of them they won 15 of their cups in the 32 years that they were GMs. You could say 16 because the '79 cup was Pollock's powerhouse team. Without those 2 guys, Montreal has won 8 cups in 72 years and zero in the last 28.
There is your Montreal system. Excellent GMs. "There ain't no stinkin' system."
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The Montreal System...haha...yes, they should get complete credit for it...c'mon, seriously...talk about over-evaluation.
System (model, template, etc.) is how one builds a team.
Style is how one plays the game on the ice. The Canadiens are (were?) also noted for "fire-wagon hockey". The term ‘fire-wagon hockey’ was coined in the 1950s"
Question: Has anyone figure out what system the Leafs are using to build their team? Or, they don't have a system as mentioned by one member.
Style is how one plays the game on the ice. The Canadiens are (were?) also noted for "fire-wagon hockey". The term ‘fire-wagon hockey’ was coined in the 1950s"
Question: Has anyone figure out what system the Leafs are using to build their team? Or, they don't have a system as mentioned by one member.
System is your structure for play when you're on PK, PP, 5 on 5...the model/template of how one builds a team varies from who's in charge, Frank Selke, I'm sure, did things differently than Serge Savard.
The "system" as it were, is to draft good players, develop them, make good trades, find a hot goalie and a reliable backup, win the draft lottery, hope they becomes a star, hire a good coaching staff then hope the team gels and wins a cup before your star contracts are up. There's your system, only there's 31 other teams trying to do the same thing, all under a salary cap. It's pretty difficult if you haven't noticed. But I'm sure if you were in charge, you'd win a cup in just a couple years.
Or how to execute a game plan. Or, for example, a system of how to score on a power play?
You made up the term "Montreal system". Now you are making up definitions.
Nobody talked about a Toronto system. The only person mentioning any system is you. You are attempting to divert attention from the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to a Montreal system.
Frank Selke and Sam Pollock were shrewd GMs. They recognized talent and acquired the best players that they could whenever they could, not necessarily in a particular order.
By the time Dryden started playing Montreal already had:
Frank and Pete Mahovlich
Cournoyer
Beliveau
Richard
Lemaire
Houle
Tardif
Ferguson
Backstrom
J.C. Tremblay
Lapointe,
Laperriere
Harper
The goalie, Dryden, came LAST.
So much for your phantom system that lives in your head.
Ok dartsy. I was shocked when I googled Montreal system and actually got one hit.
Here's the video. It is 100% about on-ice technicalities and strategies, complete with boards depicting the ice. No reference to building a team. Enjoy.
Here's the video. It is 100% about on-ice technicalities and strategies, complete with boards depicting the ice. No reference to building a team. Enjoy.
I also googled "The Montreal system of building a hockey team. Here are the results.
Once again, not one single reference to anything remotely in line with what you are trying to get us to believe. It is a total fabrication on your part.
montreal system of building a hockey team hockey - Google Search
Your options are to:
1)Admit you made it up
2)Move the goalposts
3)Turtle
Once again, not one single reference to anything remotely in line with what you are trying to get us to believe. It is a total fabrication on your part.
montreal system of building a hockey team hockey - Google Search
Your options are to:
1)Admit you made it up
2)Move the goalposts
3)Turtle
