Vaccine passports not an infringement on human rights: OHRC
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Phil, the actual # who relinquish their jobs rather than get vaxxed is about 1%. Sure, 10% may talk big - particularly when they're in front of their buddies. But oddly enough, no one is willing to walk away from that nice high-$, big-benefits union job when the time comes.
Surprising, huh?
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As long as they are offering testing in lie off vaccination, I’m ok with it. Test them everyday for all I care. Don’t force something in someone else’s body
This coming from one of the people who keeps telling us the vaccine is useless.
So is absolutely everything in life; nothing different about this. The consequence of choosing to be vaccinated is a much lower chance of getting sick and the opportunity to go to public events. the consequence of not getting vaccinated is higher risk of getting sick and not being allowed inside restaurants or gyms.
And sorry but there is no human right to have a particular job or even a job. That is especially true if your actions at that job are putting clients at risk. Our society has plenty of supports for people in need and I spent part of my childhood living off foodbanks, welfare, and willingness of friends to put us up for a while.
I would understand the issue if someone not working with at risk public was fired for not being vaccinated but a doctor not being vaccinated is no different than the doc not wearing a mask during surgery.
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That has been shown to be very safe. Almost half of the world has had at least one dose.
And again, being part of a society means giving up some of your freedom for the betterment of society as a whole and our daily lives are filled with things we can't do because of some type of unwanted consequences.
Choosing not to do something is no different from choosing to do something. You could play moral games like in the trolley problem but choosing to ignore medical advice is the same as choosing to ignore the speed limit.
Far less likely.
Sure, if they pay for it. I'd be okay with government funding for testing of those medically incapable of getting vaccinated but those doing it for ideological reasons should have to pay the piper.
And these restrictions they keep putting on us proof of that. If it was effective they wouldn't have the vaccine passport.
Yes it is force but not necessarily forced.
Forced means no choice or at least a dire stark choice.
It is not accurate to describe a minimal amount of pressure.
The prospect of losing one's job could be considered forced.
Needing the jab to get in a strip club is not forced.
I know it is all the same to you but that doesn't make sense to me.
One purpose of the mandates is to reduce the spread of Covid-19.
How significant the reduction is debatable and tough to accurately quantify.
A single person can lead to a super spreader event which can spawn more and more.
This whole pandemic started with a first case and very few contracted it from the initial source of transmission to humans.
Even if the risk reduction is not dramatic, the passports are desirable for piece of mind for the overwhelming vast majority who stepped up to do their civic duty and collectively get us out of lockdown and prevent a much greater loss of life and economic disaster.
It is also there to show that every reasonable layer of prevention is in place, thus another lockdown should be much less likely.
No. It is not all the same to me. I wouldn’t go that far.
It may seem that way because I take issue with mandate in general. Which means while it applies to job which you agree is force, it also applies to SCs. I can’t be picky and choosy when say one type the mandate is ok and the other is not. I’m against the mandate itself. So some non-essential things get lumped into that But if you notice, I’m mostly taking about things like losing a job or now being denied life saving organ transplants.
Also - I have been using the word force. It is force. I don’t think I have said forced. If that makes a difference to you.
these illegal mandates won't do jack to stop the spread of this flu virus everybody calling "covid 19" the cdc and others said these jabs will not stop infections and transmitting and don't give me this "reduce hospitalization" propaganda line look at israel
millions of people who took 2 jabs are losing their "freedom passes" unless they take the 3rd jab
Covid: Israel bans anyone without booster from entering indoor venues
Israel has become the first country in the world to make a booster shot a requirement for its digital vaccination passport, in a move widely seen as a step to encourage people to get a third dose.
Israel has become the first country in the world to make a booster shot a requirement for its digital vaccination pass, in a move widely seen as a step to encourage people to get a third dose.
I don’t agree with basically everything that CM says but other then calling COVID a flu, and the mandates illegal because apparently they are not even though they should be, he was pretty bang on.
Vaccines don’t stop the spread.
Vaccines don’t stop the spread.
Thats correct. You will still get the virus, but the vaccine prevents you from getting real sick or dying.
But it will still infect you and make you a carrier.
See here: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...-its-spread#When-might-boosters-be-necessary?
For an abbreviated period of 2 days or so. That's how long it takes the mRNA generated antibodies to kill the virus.
