Vaccine passports not an infringement on human rights: OHRC

squeezer

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That's my understanding, too. AND, I've been asking for it for the last couple of months. My employer will probably put it in place instead of demanding proof of the booster shots. The unreliable efficacy of the vaccines(drop to 20%) after 5-7 months(New England Journal of Medicine 2021 10 06) negates the assumption that the 100% vaccination rate will protect the office from an outbreak.
Why are you talking about proof of a booster shot when Canada hasn't yet allowed for any booster shots? You are like chicken little claiming the sky is falling. I believe in the new year we will commence booster shots but no employer in Canada or the US is asking anyone for proof of booster shots. Once again, you are the beacon of misinformation.
 
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Why are you talking about proof of a booster shot when Canada hasn't yet allowed for any booster shots? You are like chicken little claiming the sky is falling. I believe in the new year we will commence booster shots but no employer in Canada or the US is asking anyone for proof of booster shots. Once again, you are the beacon of misinformation.
The booster shots will be a fact, sooner than later. You know that very well. <----- this is why a conversation with you is pointless. My employer, being a brilliant individual, is planning for the future and anticipating developments because he is a prudent man, unlike you and the political hacks you support.
 
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So far it has changed from not forced to:

1. It is coercion - that one has been agreed ton
2. It is a gentle push
3. It is being persuaded.

I wonder what the next select word used to describe what is force.
Force does not equate forced.

I think incentivized is a more appropriate word.
Pressured is perhaps also more accurate.
In regards to the passports and non-essential businesses, forced is absurd.
 

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The booster shots will be a fact, sooner than later. You know that very well. <----- this is why a conversation with you is pointless. My employer, being a brilliant individual, is planning for the future and anticipating developments because he is a prudent man, unlike you and the political hacks you support.
Stick to today's reality and if your employer is a brilliant individual you would have been vaxxed through a mandate which would protect the entire staff.
 
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Lol life and paranoia have owned squeezer and others from the start. That's coming from a vaxxed person too. Been a while for me. Life too busy but I thought I'd come in with that.. That should hold me for a bit.
I don't think squeezer is paranoid. I think he's more of a manipulator that believes we should do what the government wants us to do so he could go back to living his life. So instead of blaming the politicians for the restrictions he blames the unvaxxed.
 

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If the entire staff is vaxxed then they have nothing to worry about if one or two employees aren't
There we go!

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Lol life and paranoia have owned squeezer and others from the start. That's coming from a vaxxed person too. Been a while for me. Life too busy but I thought I'd come in with that.. That should hold me for a bit.
I don't think squeezer is paranoid. I think he's more of a manipulator that believes we should do what the government wants us to do so he could go back to living his life. So instead of blaming the politicians for the restrictions he blames the unvaxxed.
 

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Wow you proved me wrong. A paid shill who writes comedy. First he overstated the death count of covid. Then he understated the death count from the vaccines. If he was antivaxx and doing this for FOX news you wouldn't have posted this video.
 

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Ok. We disagree then.

Is showing a paper at a restaurant the same as being denied an abortion? No. Not at all. I agree there.

But what you have to do to get that piece of paper is the same as someone say forcing Britney Spears to wear an IUD against her will. Which I personally think is wrong. Do you think it is okay for someone to make you wear an IUD if you don’t want to?

To get that paper, you have no choice but to submit to a medical procedure. Which is where the “my body, my choice” comes into play.

But if you only want to compare paper to body and ignore what the body has to do to get that paper, then yeah - it would seem ridiculous I guess.
I also did not say that is all I want to compare.

Stop putting words in my mouth please.

I was directly responding to a specific post that compared vaccine passports to a woman's right to her body.

Britney did not have a choice unlike people who can choose to be vaccinated or not.

If I need to delve further into the subject, does a woman's right to her body spread a potentially deadly virus? Do the rights of women and POC (human beings just like men and white folk) spread a potentially deadly virus that is affecting the world?

You can compare them all you want but there is one major difference. The rights of human beings who were judged as lesser only because of their sex and/or skin colour vs. those who CHOOSE not to be vaccinated and are not allowed in public leisure areas because they could potentially spread a deadly virus.

Women and POC do not choose their birth sex or race.

When women and POC are considered a potentially deadly virus, then maybe you can make a comparison.

Some people are all about choice, and they have that choice to be vaccinated or not.

So what about a vaccinated person's choice to not be around unvaccinated people?

Would you be in an uproar if we vaccinated people were the minority and expected to stay home to avoid the unvaccinated who were enjoying leisure activities? Would human rights matter to you then?

I doubt it.
 
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So far it has changed from not forced to:

1. It is coercion - that one has been agreed ton
2. It is a gentle push
3. It is being persuaded.

I wonder what the next select word used to describe what is force.
A rose by any other name...

People have a choice. That's the bottom line.
 

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Force does not equate forced.

I think incentivized is a more appropriate word.
Pressured is perhaps also more accurate.
In regards to the passports and non-essential businesses, forced is absurd.
People are losing their jobs. That is not an incentive.

It is force.
 

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I also did not say that is all I want to compare.

Stop putting words in my mouth please.

I was directly responding to a specific post that compared vaccine passports to a woman's right to her body.

Britney did not have a choice unlike people who can choose to be vaccinated or not.

If I need to delve further into the subject, does a woman's right to her body spread a potentially deadly virus? Do the rights of women and POC (human beings just like men and white folk) spread a potentially deadly virus that is affecting the world?

You can compare them all you want but there is one major difference. The rights of human beings who were judged as lesser only because of their sex and/or skin colour vs. those who CHOOSE not to be vaccinated and are not allowed in public leisure areas because they could potentially spread a deadly virus.

Women and POC do not choose their birth sex or race.

When women and POC are considered a potentially deadly virus, then maybe you can make a comparison.

Some people are all about choice, and they have that choice to be vaccinated or not.

So what about a vaccinated person's choice to not be around unvaccinated people?

Would you be in an uproar if we vaccinated people were the minority and expected to stay home to avoid the unvaccinated who were enjoying leisure activities? Would human rights matter to you then?

I doubt it.
First of all - I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm going based on exactly what you have said. And it doesn't appear to me you are saying anything different if I'm being honest.

Second - you can say it however you want. I broke it down to the basics. A person's body is a person's choice. Period. You don't have to agree. I don't agree with how you are labelling it. So don't agree with how I am. That is fine.

It is about ALL people having a right to govern their own bodies. REGARDLESS of others. Yes. If the means people being selfish and not getting the shots put strain on the rest of us, then so be it. I'm not going to force something in or out of someone's body. Period. I'm just not. You can. But I'm not.

I'm sure you supported survival sex workers who had no choice but to work during the entire pandemic to put food on the table. I'm sure you didn't soil their names or support lists that were being made to knock those sex workers down because they had kids to feed. But you are ok with thousands losing their job Or being forced a shot of something into their body?

Go ahead and have your opinion but remember I'm entitled to mine as well.

It is the same as all other body choice issues. Each person has a right to govern heir body and to be forced by manipulation or coercion to Put something in their body. Period. Same as should have full women body rights so should everyone. The comparison is applicable.

That is my opinion. Feel free to agree to disagree
 

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How about consequences for choices?
So you admit that people are being Consequence. So do this, put something in your body or something bad will happen to you. Not like a crime where you actually have to do something bad first, this is simply do it or suffer.

We call that threats of force. It is a thread to force you to do something wanted by the other party.

Thanks or proving my point. Appreciate it.
 

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Why are you talking about proof of a booster shot when Canada hasn't yet allowed for any booster shots? You are like chicken little claiming the sky is falling. I believe in the new year we will commence booster shots but no employer in Canada or the US is asking anyone for proof of booster shots. Once again, you are the beacon of misinformation.
OMG - stop playing dumb. You are too smart for that. You know damn well the passports will keep up with boosters and so long as we require 3/4/5 shots, the passports will reflect that and except that.

Don't set yourself up for others, myself included, to play the I told you so game later.

Don't know why the link reads the way it does but click it. I mean it has to be true. It's in a song!

https://fb.watch/8vUeX87lwB/
 
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Malibuk

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People are losing their jobs. That is not an incentive.

It is force.
I have repeatedly stated exactly the same thing.

I have repeatedly made a distinction between essential (jobs) and non-essential (optional) but you don't seem to comprehend my English.
 
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