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poopypants

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I should probably keep my head down here but what the hell.....

PP the Jays are way better than that. Come on now.
The jays scuffled around 500 for most of the year. You also can't overlook the fact that 5 of their players had monster offensive years, plus they may have the Cy young award winner and will still likely miss the playoffs. How do they improve? Those 4 players can't improve much and plus they are due for raises.
 
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Read this article from today and tell me who the real clown is. Regardless of how smart you think you are, you are ignorant and you are obnoxious.
If the Jays make the playoffs, Charlie Montoyo is a shoo-in for manager of the year. He has a case even if they don’t | The Star

Bo Bichette. “So I think that (Montoyo) allowing us to be ourselves every day, taking the pressure off of our circumstances outside of the field — where we’re living, being nomads, all that — I think he’s helped us a lot.
Montoyo is not going to win any awards lol. The jays and leafs lack intensity, the kind that kawai and Josh Donaldson had when they came to town. Watching vlad clown with every opposing player isn't always good. The most pissed off he's ever been was when he lost the home run contest.

Montoyo will be out after this year or mid next year. The players love him so it won't be a popular decision.
 

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The jays scuffled around 500 for most of the year. You also can't overlook the fact that 5 of their players had monster offensive years, plus they may have the Cy young award winner and will still likely miss the playoffs. How do they improve? Those 4 players can't improve much and plus they are due for raises.
PP respectively they didn't have Manoah or Berrios all year. Plus Matz got off to a slow start and then really picked it up. Their starting pitching minus Ryu is really good presently. Romano has been just money for them and Mayza, Cimber and Richards are more than capable out of the pen. Would I like to see them a little deeper on the back end, of course. But they certainly don't take a back seat to the Yankees or Red Sox in pitching. Those teams all have holes.

Offensively they are at the top of the food chain right now. They're going to finish with four players with over 100 RBI's. Can't remember the last time that happened. 1 through 7 they're about as solid as a lineup as I've ever seen.

The scuffling you mentioned is a head scratcher. I read a few weeks ago that fangraphs said that with their run differential they should have won 8 games more than they have. From some reason they found a way to lose games they should have won. Bottom line is that this teams talent is good enough to win the division.

Maybe there is a coaching issue as you maintain or that the youth of this team has to learn how to win.......
 

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Jays win 5-2. Good!!!
A loss and they would have been in trouble.

Now they gotta get minimum 2/3 against Yankees and I think they can get WC spot
 

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PP respectively they didn't have Manoah or Berrios all year. Plus Matz got off to a slow start and then really picked it up. Their starting pitching minus Ryu is really good presently. Romano has been just money for them and Mayza, Cimber and Richards are more than capable out of the pen. Would I like to see them a little deeper on the back end, of course. But they certainly don't take a back seat to the Yankees or Red Sox in pitching. Those teams all have holes.

Offensively they are at the top of the food chain right now. They're going to finish with four players with over 100 RBI's. Can't remember the last time that happened. 1 through 7 they're about as solid as a lineup as I've ever seen.

The scuffling you mentioned is a head scratcher. I read a few weeks ago that fangraphs said that with their run differential they should have won 8 games more than they have. From some reason they found a way to lose games they should have won. Bottom line is that this teams talent is good enough to win the division.

Maybe there is a coaching issue as you maintain or that the youth of this team has to learn how to win.......
Very poor bullpen through the first 2/3 of the season with many blown late inning leads. Inconsistent starting pitching through the first 1/2 of the season. (Without Berrios and Manoah, they would still be hopelessly struggling). Streaky hitting. They can score 22 runs in some games and struggle to get a hit in others. Defence was shoddy at the beginning of the season and now has improved.
 

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PP respectively they didn't have Manoah or Berrios all year. Plus Matz got off to a slow start and then really picked it up. Their starting pitching minus Ryu is really good presently. Romano has been just money for them and Mayza, Cimber and Richards are more than capable out of the pen. Would I like to see them a little deeper on the back end, of course. But they certainly don't take a back seat to the Yankees or Red Sox in pitching. Those teams all have holes.

Offensively they are at the top of the food chain right now. They're going to finish with four players with over 100 RBI's. Can't remember the last time that happened. 1 through 7 they're about as solid as a lineup as I've ever seen.

The scuffling you mentioned is a head scratcher. I read a few weeks ago that fangraphs said that with their run differential they should have won 8 games more than they have. From some reason they found a way to lose games they should have won. Bottom line is that this teams talent is good enough to win the division.

Maybe there is a coaching issue as you maintain or that the youth of this team has to learn how to win.......
You're wasting your breath with this yahoo. His agenda is to criticize and try to get under the skin of Toronto sports fans. Facts don't matter to him.

If the Jays are so badly flawed, what does that say about the the other wild card contenders who are barely ahead of the Jays. No team is perfect. I am fairly neutral on Montoyo at this point but he is clearly one of the front runners for manager of the year, except for Poopeye. One thing is for sure, the players play hard for Charlie. He has their collective backs.
 

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Jays win 5-2. Good!!!
A loss and they would have been in trouble.

Now they gotta get minimum 2/3 against Yankees and I think they can get WC spot
That once supposedly tough series of the Yanks vs. Tampa doesn't look so tough anymore since Tampa has clinched and will be resting some position players and also arms to set up their rotation for the playoffs.

Even if the Yankees lose tonight and the Jays win 2/3 against NY, they'd still be tied. Toronto needs to sweep NY in order to control their own destiny. The situation is even worse if NY wins tonight.

This will be a white knuckle week.
 

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You're wasting your breath with this yahoo. His agenda is to criticize and try to get under the skin of Toronto sports fans. Facts don't matter to him.

If the Jays are so badly flawed, what does that say about the the other wild card contenders who are barely ahead of the Jays. No team is perfect. I am fairly neutral on Montoyo at this point but he is clearly one of the front runners for manager of the year, except for Poopeye. One thing is for sure, the players play hard for Charlie. He has their collective backs.
Ok pom pom boy. There was a reason he spent 22 years on Tampa without a promotion. He sat on his ass when the opposing manager was barking at Ray. A good manager would have been barking back. When you have 5 players accumulating 500 rbis and the most likely Cy winner and miss the playoffs, questions need to be answered, clown boy.
 

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PP respectively they didn't have Manoah or Berrios all year. Plus Matz got off to a slow start and then really picked it up. Their starting pitching minus Ryu is really good presently. Romano has been just money for them and Mayza, Cimber and Richards are more than capable out of the pen. Would I like to see them a little deeper on the back end, of course. But they certainly don't take a back seat to the Yankees or Red Sox in pitching. Those teams all have holes.

Offensively they are at the top of the food chain right now. They're going to finish with four players with over 100 RBI's. Can't remember the last time that happened. 1 through 7 they're about as solid as a lineup as I've ever seen.

The scuffling you mentioned is a head scratcher. I read a few weeks ago that fangraphs said that with their run differential they should have won 8 games more than they have. From some reason they found a way to lose games they should have won. Bottom line is that this teams talent is good enough to win the division.

Maybe there is a coaching issue as you maintain or that the youth of this team has to learn how to win.......
You're describing the perfect season which never happens. Most of their offensive players didn't miss games, accept for springer. This team lacks an intensity or business like approach needed to win imo. Pom pom boy is exactly the type of fan the leafs and jays love, cheer for their team under any circumstances.
 

poopypants

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You're wasting your breath with this yahoo. His agenda is to criticize and try to get under the skin of Toronto sports fans. Facts don't matter to him.

If the Jays are so badly flawed, what does that say about the the other wild card contenders who are barely ahead of the Jays. No team is perfect. I am fairly neutral on Montoyo at this point but he is clearly one of the front runners for manager of the year, except for Poopeye. One thing is for sure, the players play hard for Charlie. He has their collective backs.
Ok turtle boy, you're neutral on montoyo yet you say he's gonna win manager of the year. Charlie Montoyo has zero chance at manager of the year.
 

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Ok turtle boy, you're neutral on montoyo yet you say he's gonna win manager of the year. Charlie Montoyo has zero chance at manager of the year.
You just proved how out to lunch you are and have reading comprehension issues.

I never said that he'd win. Show me a quote where I said he's going to win. I posted a link to an article which had a different opinion than you. If you do find a post where I picked him, I will not post anything on TERB for 2 weeks. If you can't find a quote, you don't post for one week.

Time for you to put up or shut up, Mr. cock sure of himself. Guaranteed you will chicken out. You don't have the guts.

You are the one that is going to turtle. I do not turtle. I do not duck debates. I attempt to back up what I say.

BTW, Montoyo is the Vegas betting favourite to win Manager of the Year. Hardly zero chance. You are all talk but know nothing about what you are talking. You are proving yourself to be a total dumbass. 😂 😂😂😂
AL & NL Manager of the Year Odds - Prop Betting on MLB Managers (gamblingsites.org)



  • Charlie Montoyo, Blue Jays (+700)
  • Aaron Boone, Yankees (+750)
  • Rocco Baldelli, Twins (+800)
  • Alex Cora, Red Sox (+900)
Are you going to take that bet on what you claim I said?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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That once supposedly tough series of the Yanks vs. Tampa doesn't look so tough anymore since Tampa has clinched and will be resting some position players and also arms to set up their rotation for the playoffs
Not quite. Tampa will start McClanahan, Baz and Rasmussen for 3-game series. So they might rest some position players or relievers, but Yankees will have their hands full with that starting 3 (and yes I know Baz is a rookie but his stuff is really good)
 

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Ryu gets the start tonight, Montoyo better pull him at the first sign of trouble. Gotta sweep those fuckers.

Do we ever need Gurriel's bat in lineup tonight.
 
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Well good news for Jays fans tonight. Not so good for us Yankee fans. Jameson Taillon gets the start for NY tonight. This is his first start since being activated off the injured list. He has a partially torn tendon in his right ankle. He has one rehab start in Scranton that lasted 3 innings, so suffice it to say he's on a short leash this evening. Prior to that after getting off to a rough start he had pitched really well since the second half.

Ryu on the other hand has pitched really well against the Yankees. He's allowed just 6 runs in 24 innings. So the Jays are banking on pedigree here versus what have you done for me lately.

Hope I'm wrong but I'm predicting a Jays victory tonight.
 
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