Today is the day and it has started! Ontario vaccine Passports
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At a time without vaccines and with varicella being far more problematic in adults then children, it made sense. In a time with vaccines and known risk of significant complications for covid, it's just plain stupid.
I already have mine on my phone, with QR codes.
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Then I assume you are also against the vaccines for Hepatitis A and B, chickenpox, Diptheria, Measles, Meningitis, Mumps, Pertussis, Polio, Pneumococcus, Rotavirus, Rubella, HPV and Tetanus as well, let alone annual flu shots.
Or is covid somehow this special political line you don't wish to cross?
A lot of people believe that the Covid vaccine hasn’t been tested enough. Those other vaccines were tested for years some even decades before they were put into use. The Covid vaccine was developed and approved in less than a year. This is the issue that some people have specifically with this vaccine over other vaccines. This is why they have a different opinion. This is why this one vaccine is special or different compared to all of the other ones and why people would support all the other vaccines over this one.
It's a fallacy, it's nonsense and it promotes misinformation.
COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know
Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.
Well no. It's a fact. I'm not saying the vaccine isn't safe. In my opinion and all opinions that matter, it is safe.It's a fallacy, it's nonsense and it promotes misinformation.
COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know
Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.www.hopkinsmedicine.org
But factually it had only been year while others were a lot longer in their testing. This is why some people are hesitant.
Again, you know I'm vaccinated. Would get booster etc. But you can't saying the test durations are the same. They are not. Therefore it is not nonsense. It is a factual claim And for some, that matters. Incorrectly in my opinion but they are entitled to theirs just as much as I am entitled to mine.
You may have missed this, I have posted it at least twice before.
First testing of mRNA on mice took place in 1999, then ferrets in 2007 followed by guinea pigs in 2018.
The first phase l/ll clinical vaccination trial with direct injection of mRNA in humans against tumor antigens was conducted during a trial between Feb-Mar 2008.
Mrna with the covid spike protein was finished testing on mice and macaques in September, 2020.
There were notes on the side effects due to the injection as well as the possibility of treatable cases of myocarditis as well as pericarditis from the 2008 and 2018 studies.
mRNA is kind of like a rocket that carries different items, the base is the same for each application just the item it is carrying is different.
mRNA is the delivery method, the spike protein is the payload.
This is why there are hopes that mRNA can be used to target various types of diseases just by changing the payload.
I already know that. I'm not talking about mRNA. I got the AZ which didn't use it.
But testing mRNA for years is not the only thing that goes in the vaccine. It still has only had a year of testing as a whole vaccine for COVID directly.
Here's the misinformation or the misunderstanding of the difference between all of those vaccines and the COVID stuff.
The list you pointed to gives FULL IMMUNITY against the disease. In other words you will not get sick.
Thats clearly not the case with the COVID stuff. The COVID vaccines don't give full immunity, just a better shot at survival and bad cases, less potential spread too. Thats been acknowledged by public health, the politicians and the manufacturers.
When someone authorizes a vaccine as good as the ones in your list, then COVID doesn't belong in that list.
Here's the deal with chicken pox (Varicella). https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/varicella/hcp-effective-duration.htm
I also spoke to a buddy last night about it. His view was interesting. If we get to 90% it will create herd immunity. He also said with the current covidrules we still have patients waiting for treatment and quarantine rules really fuck up s lot of things. Even if it’s just kids sport.
I changed my mind. Everyone just take the fucking shot. You’ve all done worse drugs.
Do you know the difference between being again the vaccine and been against the mandatory vaccination? For example, I have all of the above vaccine, I got my COVID shots as soon as I was able to (and I blame Canadian government for getting for the delay in making vaccine available) and I want to get my booster shot ASAP (and, again, I blame the government fro no allowing people to get booster shots given that there is no shortage of vaccine in Canada anymore). However, I am strongly against mandatory vaccination and vaccine passports.
And it is not the reason why mandatory vaccination is wrong. It does not matter why people refuse the vaccine - it is their right to do so. It is wrong to reduce the right of minority fro the benefit of majority. Because the next natural step in the list of "good for society restrictions" is banning abortion and contraception: we have a demographic crisis and we need more children. So, there is not mush difference between lefty loonies who want mandatory vaccination and rightly loonies in Texas who ban abortions. Both types want to restrict freedom for the greater good, they simply have different "greater good" in mind.
The Astra Zenica vaccine is the result of 18 years of research by Oxford university.
Just in case anyone asks.
This is true. I don't know why it is called a vaccine. It doesn't prevent COVID. It should be just called a shot like the flu shot.
Link? I would love to know how they planned for a vaccine 18 years in advance....
I get some Technologies but the actual ingredients needed to be mixed and what to target to help COVID symptoms, I don't think so.
I know a guy who wore his seatbelt, but still died in a crash.
That's it, I'm done with seat belts.
If it's their right to do so, it's the right of others to not want to have anything to do with them. If someone comes to work with the flu, it's the right of everyone to refuse to be in the same room with them. What, you don't like shunning? Well, others don't like disease. Tough.
Banning abortion isn't at all about health, by the way. It's about morals. Rather selective morals, actually -- the same people that are supposedly "pro life" are piss poor at helping people once they're born.
Do you think the flu shot isn't a vaccine?
People have been working on vaccines for SARS-like coronaviruses since the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak.
