Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

Do you believe privilege exists?

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massman

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This is 2021. Whites are no longer


Again, this is 2021. Whites are no longer the majority in the GTA. If a person of color is having a hard time finding a home because of their skin color, it is not showing in the demographics and also would be all over the news. Employers also have diversity laws for hiring people of color that they need to abide by as well. I come from a poor family and abuse and busted my ass to get to where I am. Where was my white privilege growing up? 🤔 the world in unfair, but if you work hard and set goals, you'll achieve them regardless of race
Just because whites are now a minority it doesn’t mean that there isn’t privilege. And extreme example is to look back at Apartheid South Africa. Blacks were 75-80% of the population, yet the whites were able to maintain a racist system, that advantaged them for decades. Our system has advantaged white people for hundreds of years, and still does, with far more white than non white in positions of power in politics and business etc.
Just because one white person did not have a privileged upbringing, doesn’t mean that white people in general have an easier time than non whites. (Especially Black people). Imagine what your upbringing might have been like if you were black?
 

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This is 2021. Whites are no longer


Again, this is 2021. Whites are no longer the majority in the GTA. If a person of color is having a hard time finding a home because of their skin color, it is not showing in the demographics and also would be all over the news. Employers also have diversity laws for hiring people of color that they need to abide by as well. I come from a poor family and abuse and busted my ass to get to where I am. Where was my white privilege growing up? 🤔 the world in unfair, but if you work hard and set goals, you'll achieve them regardless of race
This is the argument people always use.

Which is why you need to understand how privilege works and why it is not just related to race but a variety of different ones.

When combining privileges, you had more privilege then a poor black person but less privilege then a rich white man. Which is why you feel the way you do but trust me, that poor black kid had it worse and would have had to work twice as hard to get to the same level you are at now.

You don’t have to agree. No ones is saying you have to but that is how privilege works.
 

The Oracle

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Dude, she’s a leukophobic misandrist. Your chances of swaying her opinion are on par with your chances of diverting tectonic drift.

I always find it funny that the same women who complain the loudest about men having all the money, power and positions of authority are the same women who choose to pursue fluffy academic programs (English, Gender Studies, Psychology etc.) as opposed to getting a degree in business or engineering. The women who do succeed in life generally identify more closely with their profession than they do with their gender.
Nailed it...Great post.

She's so programmed by her humanities education it's not worth debating with her.

I always love the critical thinking default position she uses.Lol.
 
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Frankfooter

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He definitely gives me eugenicist vibes lol
And in a super creepy way.
He theorized about brain sizes based on penis sizes and 'vagina' sizes as well, didn't he?
All based on his own biases, of course, then fudged the stats to make those claims.

The worst is he was teaching at a university in London, ON until the 80's.
 

Bagilson

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Here is a snippet from a Psychology Today article RE: your buddy Rushton...

"Rushton claimed that these two reproductive strategies were associated with a whole suite of mental and physical characteristics including brain size, intelligence, criminality, and, of course, penis length. According to this theory, African men have the smallest brains and the largest penises, whereas Asian men are the opposite. This has been described as a Goldilocks theory of race, in which European men are "just right," having a combination of high intelligence and a reasonable genital endowment."

-- The Pseudoscience of Race Differences in Penis Size

So do you also agree that black men are dumber than other races because their dicks are allegedly bigger?? Because thats what your buddy Rushton thinks. I don't know about you but this reeks of white supremacy..
You may want to look up the difference between Peer Reviewed Journals (i.e. Personality and Individual Differences) and PopPsych (i.e. Psychology Today).

What Rushton found via, empirical measurements, was that there were statistically significant differences between the average penis and brain sizes between the races. I remember when his original article came out back in the 80s. It really upset a lot of people. They called him every possible name under the sun, but none of them actually came up with any data to refute his findings.

Now, regarding the IQ differences, I make no claims regarding that simply because the concept of IQ is just to ill defined to have any real meaning; Therefore any claims about differences between the average I.Q. between races are meaningless.

You have made the claim that Rushton was a White supremacist. I'm just curious as to why a White supremacist would publicly claim that Asians have bigger brains and higher IQs than White people? Really doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that someone who thought they where a member of the master race would say about another race.

Truth is often ugly and brutal.
 

Frankfooter

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You may want to look up the difference between Peer Reviewed Journals (i.e. Personality and Individual Differences) and PopPsych (i.e. Psychology Today).

What Rushton found via, empirical measurements, was that there were statistically significant differences between the average penis and brain sizes between the races. I remember when his original article came out back in the 80s. It really upset a lot of people. They called him every possible name under the sun, but none of them actually came up with any data to refute his findings.

Now, regarding the IQ differences, I make no claims regarding that simply because the concept of IQ is just to ill defined to have any real meaning; Therefore any claims about differences between the average I.Q. between races are meaningless.

You have made the claim that Rushton was a White supremacist. I'm just curious as to why a White supremacist would publicly claim that Asians have bigger brains and higher IQs than White people? Really doesn't seem to be the sort of thing that someone who thought they where a member of the master race would say about another race.

Truth is often ugly and brutal.
I was the one that said he was a white supremacist, Mena more accurately termed him as eugenicist.
Really, you should stay away from this guy and his theories.

First off, there are no biological races of humans, there is more genetic difference inside any one group you might call a 'race' than there is difference between those groups themselves.
Secondly, the idea of skin colour as a determining factor is crap, if you take any population and move it closer or further from the equator, their skin colour will lighten or darken over 100 generations.

Here's one of many, many takedowns of Rushton.
Scientific Racism, the cloak of objectivity
 
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HungSowel

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Canada's national IQ is top 10 in the world, higher than other countries with more pure blooded citizens.

I can not tell you how to turn a stupid person into a smart person, if I knew then I would be rich, I can tell you how to turn a smart person into a stupid one; fill him/her with doubt, fear, uncertainty, overload them with work, lack of sleep, worry about their future and loved ones.

Back when the Brits were colonizing the Irish, they forced the Irish to take IQ test, and of course the irish did poorly on them because of the circumstances the Brits put them under. Fast forward to today, the national IQ of the Irish is about the same as for Britain.
 

Dirkpit

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Imagine being born a white Christian male….in Iraq. Don’t think you’re going to have a lot of privilege. Try being born black to millionaire lawyer parents. Bet you’re good to go with privilege to spare. Most people in Canada have privilege compared to some third world country. Sometimes privilege makes a person lazy and obstruction makes one stronger…. turning a. Disadvantage to an Advantage. Don’t whine about other peoples situations and make the most of your own .
 

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I feel privelaged to live in Toronto so I can look at extremely attractive women. I travelled all over world and never seen anything like this. It's insane!!!
 
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They say no black gents because of Big D. Not racism. So many sex hungry women date Black guys including some escorts who advertise no black gents. Who wants to be sore after their shift.
That's mostly BS and I'm speaking from overall experience, not just in this hobby. Dating a person of colour or having biracial children does not mean you can't be racist. This is another level of "I have black friends" argument. When it comes to racism there are many layers to it and unfortunately some will never get it.
 

TomFord1980

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Just because whites are now a minority it doesn’t mean that there isn’t privilege. And extreme example is to look back at Apartheid South Africa. Blacks were 75-80% of the population, yet the whites were able to maintain a racist system, that advantaged them for decades. Our system has advantaged white people for hundreds of years, and still does, with far more white than non white in positions of power in politics and business etc.
Just because one white person did not have a privileged upbringing, doesn’t mean that white people in general have an easier time than non whites. (Especially Black people). Imagine what your upbringing might have been like if you were black?
My family was poor and father was abusive. If I was black, it would be worse than that? Don't think so pal, I am not buying what you're selling.
 

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My family was poor and father was abusive. If I was black, it would be worse than that? Don't think so pal, I am not buying what you're selling.
Yes it would because not only would you be shit on at home, you would be out in public as well.
 
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TomFord1980

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This is the argument people always use.

Which is why you need to understand how privilege works and why it is not just related to race but a variety of different ones.

When combining privileges, you had more privilege then a poor black person but less privilege then a rich white man. Which is why you feel the way you do but trust me, that poor black kid had it worse and would have had to work twice as hard to get to the same level you are at now.

You don’t have to agree. No ones is saying you have to but that is how privilege works.
What am I supposed to do then? Sell my home, and forfeit my business because I'm white so a black kid can get a free ride? I think they would want to work and earn it. It's capitalism. It is an unfair world and we will never achieve a utopia like the liberals want. The Universities and mainstream media need to quit vilifying white males. If the country is so bad and racist, why do 500k+ immigrants come into the country every year?
 
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