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Vaccine passport to be required in Ontario September 22nd

squeezer

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What is the risk?

TINY.

Let's call it 10,000 people have died in Ontario from COVID 19 over 18 months. Normal deaths over that time period would be about 165,000. So we are talking around 6%, I suppose. But deaths from flu have fallen.

So COVID deaths are actually not exceptional. They are concentrated (READ MY LIPS: CONCENTRATED. That means, yes there are younger ones, but the large majority are in older people). So vaccinate the older ones, stop this madness for the rest of us.
GTFO with your dumbass logic.
 

mandrill

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Thanks for the easiest comment ever to refute.

Unless.... you advocate the same thing for obese people? Smokers? Drinkers? Of course drug takers? What about those that don't exercise enough? Those that engage in risky behaviour like cunnilingus or fellatio? Of course all gays should have something there too, because they engage in risky behaviour. Let's also go against motorcycle drivers.
Nah.

The issue with all of those others is that it's not a clear black / white. Smoking, drinking and now drug use is part of the Canadian lifestyle. Plus all the other stuff. I can live a strictly health-conscious, monastic lifestyle, but that's not normal and where do you draw the line?... Do you say anyone who doesn't permanently self-isolate, wear a HazMat suit and eat only health foods should be denied health care?... Because that's where you would end up.

Taking / not taking the vaxx is a clear, 1-dimensional choice. You either man up to your citizens' responsibilities or you dgaf. And in the latter case, you should be sanctioned.
 

mandrill

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Do SP's prefer unvaccinated facials?
I read somewhere unvaxxed sperm could be the next bitcoin!
I hear it's the "next wave ivermectin" on Fox News. Of course, Fucker Carlson has probably been imbibing unvaxxed sperm for the last decade, out of personal choice. So has Laura I - on the rare occasions she can henpeck a man into a supplying it.

But now they're going to sponsor it for medicinal use.
 
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K Douglas

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Concerned yes but in case you missed it, fully vaccinated people make up a small percentage of cases.
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83% of people over 12 make up 11% of ICU cases.

If we had age data for ICU cases, it would look even worse for unvaccinated as older people are well over 90% vaccinated.
There are 163 people in the ICU right now. That means that 56 (34% of ICU patients) have a vaccination status that is either unknown or the province is refusing to disclose it. Regardless of reason, your percentage breakdown is irrelevant due to incomplete information.
 
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luvyeah

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Don't confuse me with anti vaxers. I'm all for vaccinations. But, what we are doing is not vaccinations. We should be offering vaccines to those at risk and move on. Jabbing the whole population every six months is not the answer nor is it sustainable.
How else is Pfizer and Moderna gonna pay their bills? You think anyone else has infinite money like the government?
 

barnacler

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But they are generally preventable.

I put them in the same category as seatbelts; they won't prevent every death but they sure do help.
I put them in the same category as flu deaths, and the evidence I believe supports that view.

Flu deaths are inevitable every year, they finish off old people.
 

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barnacler

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Nah.

The issue with all of those others is that it's not a clear black / white. Smoking, drinking and now drug use is part of the Canadian lifestyle. Plus all the other stuff. I can live a strictly health-conscious, monastic lifestyle, but that's not normal and where do you draw the line?... Do you say anyone who doesn't permanently self-isolate, wear a HazMat suit and eat only health foods should be denied health care?... Because that's where you would end up.

Taking / not taking the vaxx is a clear, 1-dimensional choice. You either man up to your citizens' responsibilities or you dgaf. And in the latter case, you should be sanctioned.
Actually, this 1 dimensional thing you allude to is surely not clear at all.

Being 25% obese is very clear, from a statistical point of view. Smoking is crystal clear. I see no difference. Please explain. In these situations and the vaccine, we are dealing with probabilities, costs.
 
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barnacler

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There are 163 people in the ICU right now. That means that 56 (34% of ICU patients) have a vaccination status that is either unknown or the province is refusing to disclose it. Regardless of reason, your percentage breakdown is irrelevant due to incomplete information.
163 people is a very tiny percentage of the Ontario population. 1 in 90,000
 

K Douglas

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I am interested in your opinion.

Please explain why you have that opinion.
You are wasting your time with this 🤡
He has the IQ of a mosquito.
 

mandrill

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Actually, this 1 dimensional thing you allude to is surely not clear at all.

Being 25% obese is very clear, from a statistical point of view. Smoking is crystal clear. I see no difference. Please explain. In these situations and the vaccine, we are dealing with probabilities, costs.
We are. But guys who are 25% obese are part of the random pattern in the population. It's always been like that.

And in that specific example, some people are going to shed weight easily, some only with difficulty and some will be medically unable to do it because body type, metabolism, etc. So you've already got complication. And also a long, drawn-out process w a lot of government oversight. And radical restructuring of community lifestyles.

With the vaxx, you go twice. It takes about a half-hour each time and then you're done. See the distinction??
 

K Douglas

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163 people is a very tiny percentage of the Ontario population. 1 in 90,000
Yes, although we are not in flu season yet. Its also a larger number than this same time last year.
 

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There are 163 people in the ICU right now. That means that 56 (34% of ICU patients) have a vaccination status that is either unknown or the province is refusing to disclose it. Regardless of reason, your percentage breakdown is irrelevant due to incomplete information.
Conspiracy theories again.
 

basketcase

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I am interested in your opinion.

Please explain why you have that opinion.
I'll answer for him.

Could it be that despite mitigation efforts and a very high level of awareness, covid has killed more people than any flu since modern medicine?

Complaining about masks and vaccines is more stupid than people who insist on riding motorcycles without a helmet.
 

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What you don't understand is that everyone is at risk. You like playing Russian Roulette, you go ahead and be you!
Russian Roulette and on a sex service forum. lol You're not here for the Buy & Sell section I take it?
 
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