When People on Here say "Tax the Rich"

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Seriously?You also believe in trickle down economics too right? You also think capitilism is a good thing too right ?
If capitalism is bad, what are you doing practicing it? BTW, the numbers for my post are easily available on the governments' websites.
 

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Sorry but when you’re so rich that you can pay for a space trip while your workers are dying and denied basic employee rights…then nah you’re not a good person.
Human rights is not taxation. We are speaking taxation and having billionaires using their personal money to stop world hunger.

I can’t say what human rights Bezos has personally broken but that was not the topic of the thread nor was I saying at all that personally he is good person. Try to keep up hunny bun.


If capitalism is bad, what are you doing practicing it? BTW, the numbers for my post are easily available on the governments' websites.
Exactly!!!!!! It’s ok for some, but when you get to successful, then it becomes an issue.

Take away her right to sell in a free market and watch the sparks fly. LOL

Should TERB not charge for advertising and make money off this board? I mean all they have to do is buy some software and moderate a little, shouldn’t they give advertising for free because escorts need money more????? Same theories apply no?
 

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If capitalism is bad, what are you doing practicing it? BTW, the numbers for my post are easily available on the governments' websites.
I'm confused what numbers of your posts are on government websites? im late on my coffee bare with me im not understanding what you mean ...
 

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If capitalism is bad, what are you doing practicing it? BTW, the numbers for my post are easily available on the governments' websites.
capitism stole peoples pensions, took peoples savings,destroyed the climate,shipped your job overseas,,dismantled the education system,and shackled people with debt,leaving only racism xenophobia and patrioctry sorry for the bad typing i cant find my glasses lol
 

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capitism stole peoples pensions, took peoples savings,destroyed the climate,shipped your job overseas,,dismantled the education system,and shackled people with debt,leaving only racism xenophobia and patrioctry sorry for the bad typing i cant find my glasses lol
Capitalism is an ECONOMICS term- meaning free exchange of goods and/or services. It has nothing to do with what you're talking about.
 
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I'm confused what numbers of your posts are on government websites? im late on my coffee bare with me im not understanding what you mean ...
The actual revenue intake for the governments from various sources.
 
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We should go back to living in caves. But, even in caves there is "inequity" because my ancestors risked their lives to hunt mammoths and when they come back to the cave the others who did nothing still argue that the meat should be equally shared because it is "only fair".
 
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Capitalism is an ECONOMICS term- meaning free exchange of goods and/or services. It has nothing to do with what you're talking about.
yes we live in a capitilistic society ,but i do not view sex work as the norm capitism first of all society doesnt even recognize this job as being legal they damn my clients and only clients willing to risk the chance of going to jail if th the LE got involved. its a grey area my friend i don't think sex work is a good example of capitilism.
 

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We should go back to living in caves. But, even in caves there is "inequity" because my ancestors risked their lives to hunt mammoths and when they come back to the cave the others who did nothing still argue that the meat should be equally shared because it is "only fair".
Well in my house when we went fishing we would catch a string full of fish and if we caught more than expected we would give some to our neighbours and they didnt spend 10 hours trying to hook these fish ;)
 

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If capitalism is bad, what are you doing practicing it? BTW, the numbers for my post are easily available on the governments' websites.
yes we live in a capitilistic society ,but i do not view sex work as the norm capitism first of all society doesnt even recognize this job as being legal they damn my clients and only clients willing to risk the chance of going to jail if th the LE got involved. its a grey area my friend i don't think sex work is a good example of capitilism.
They most certainly do consider this job legal. I am 100% legal in selling my body for sex and using it to make money. I would hope you treat it legally and pay your fair share of taxes on it. Considering you are all up in arms about others paying their fair share.

And it is the perfect example of capitalism. We set our hours, rates, services and supply and demand dictate our success.
 
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yes we live in a capitilistic society ,but i do not view sex work as the norm capitism first of all society doesnt even recognize this job as being legal they damn my clients and only clients willing to risk the chance of going to jail if th the LE got involved. its a grey area my friend i don't think sex work is a good example of capitilism.
Actually, lady what you are doing is one of the last, true bastions of capitalism in Canada. All what you do is completely market driven, you set the rules without any regulatory oversight from the government. Johns take their chances, true, but that in no way affects your business model nor, I suspect, your bottom line. My advice to you? Embrace it.
 
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This is a very complicated issue, but one that needs addressing.

We should never condemn billionaires for their success. They worked within the economic system we created, and found a way to make it work for them. Similarly, we shouldn't condemn people for taking every tax break available to them.

But just because we shouldn't condemn them, doesn't mean we shouldn't act in societal interests. Globalism and technology advances have bolstered the top earners whilst simultaneously depressing almost everyone else. Wages have stagnated on the lower end, which wouldn't be so bad except that the cost of living has exploded. Middle class is shrinking, though not all of them are getting bumped into the lower class. A hefty proportion are being bumped to the upper class. But a shrinking middle class is extremely worrisome.

You're never going to stop technology advances, nor should we try. However, we can address globalism. The outsourcing of labor is the problem, and it'll become an even greater problem as our society advances in the area of remote work. We need to find a way to curtail that. Tariffs on foreign goods will help (one of the few things I agreed with Trump on). I don't mean tariffs on countries of similar standards of living; that just creates barriers that aren't worth the price. But tariffs on goods from countries with lower standards of living, and much lower labor costs. The goal is to level the playing field, to make local, more expensive, labor viable. That'll bolster our middle and lower classes, and depress the upper class slightly, and our society will be in a less fragile state (better jobs, less dependence of on foreign countries that don't have our interests in mind, supply lines less prone to interruption, etc.). Plus, it's addressing the problem at its root, rather than applying an after-the-fact bandaid (such as universal basic income).
 
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Actually, lady what you are doing is one of the last, true bastions of capitalism in Canada. All what you do is completely market driven, you set the rules without any regulatory oversight from the government. Johns take their chances, true, but that in no way affects your business model nor, I suspect, your bottom line. My advice to you? Embrace it.
It is hilarious to see the cherry picking. It comes across more as jealously of someone else’s success then actual knowledge of their own working system. It is pure capitalism! 1000%
 

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Actually, lady what you are doing is one of the last, true bastions of capitalism in Canada. All what you do is completely market driven, you set the rules without any regulatory oversight from the government. Johns take their chances, true, but that in no way affects your business model nor, I suspect, your bottom line. My advice to you? Embrace it.
thank you for that ...except it has effected new business because of the law those you've already have a rapport with are happy . New people often say am i going to go to jail for this ...how do i know your not a cop. even being on an escort board. but before law c36 you couldn't keep up with the demand now not so much add a pandemic to the mix and you get calls saying i hope you die of covid seeing clients ....the pandemic has caused some people to act crazier than the norm. I'm not complaining im just stating facts that money doesnt fall from a tree just because your a sex worker especially when your not 20 years old again hehe mind you i don't want to be 20 again ;)
 

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But tariffs on goods from countries with lower standards of living, and much lower labor costs. The goal is to level the playing field, to make local, more expensive, labor viable.
Wouldn't this hurt workers in those countries. Isn't it better to have a low paying job than no job? It would also raise the cost of goods and services in Canada. It probably means that people in those countries would not buy goods and services from us. How many Canadians work in exporting companies?

"How did high tariffs affect the Great Depression? The Act and tariffs imposed by America's trading partners in retaliation were major factors of the reduction of American exports and imports by 67% during the Depression. Economists and economic historians have a consensus view that the passage of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff exacerbated the Great Depression."
 

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thank you for that ...except it has effected new business because of the law those you've already have a rapport with are happy . New people often say am i going to go to jail for this ...how do i know your not a cop. even being on an escort board. but before law c36 you couldn't keep up with the demand now not so much add a pandemic to the mix and you get calls saying i hope you die of covid seeing clients ....the pandemic has caused some people to act crazier than the norm. I'm not complaining im just stating facts that money doesnt fall from a tree just because your a sex worker especially when your not 20 years old again hehe mind you i don't want to be 20 again ;)
He didn’t say any of that. He said you live the capitalist lifestyle. You benefit from it 100% then bitch when others do as well and think it should be abolished.

For us that would be the government setting our rates of what we can charge. You would go ape shit if that happened and would probably go further underground and still not pay taxes that you bitch others should pay.

As far as the excuses, I call BS. Escort market is alive and well. Asking some questions doesn’t mean clients are not booking. And maybe there are others reasons besides the pandemic that clients are not booking because all during the pandemic plenty were working and making money as usual.
 
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Well in my house when we went fishing we would catch a string full of fish and if we caught more than expected we would give some to our neighbours and they didnt spend 10 hours trying to hook these fish ;)
Yes, occasionally giving fish to a neighbour is a nice gesture. My larger point is that society works best when everybody contributes what they can. Society doesn't work when there are too many freeloaders.
 
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capitism stole peoples pensions, took peoples savings,destroyed the climate,shipped your job overseas,,dismantled the education system,and shackled people with debt,leaving only racism xenophobia and patrioctry sorry for the bad typing i cant find my glasses lol
Capitalism didn't do those things. People did them and there will always be unscrupulous people in any system. Capitalism created a huge middle class and listed hundreds of millions of people out of extreme poverty. Communism is much, much, much worse.
 
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ROTFLMFAO!!! There are not enough super rich to tax to make a meaningful impact on government's revenues. Besides, you cannot specifically target them because the money is simply not there- it's tied up in their enterprises. That's why government's always go after the middle class; they just lower the thresholds for the definition of "rich". I think that in Canada we are all the way down to a couple of hundred thousand. Why do you think our government is so addicted to consumption taxes and the straight payroll deduction? That's where the REAL money is.
Consumption or VAT is harder to weasel out of in theory. As long as you consume anything you are paying.
 

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I also don't get the vilification of the wealthy like this. If mega companies like Amazon are breaking labor or health and safety laws then they deserve criticism. I have no issues if they are following them though. I also don't understand the hate on SpaceX, Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic. Think of how many highly skilled jobs those 3 companies have and will be creating. Not to mention all of the ancillary benefits down the road.

What I don't agree with is how Amazon was pitting cities against each other to bid for the HQ2. A mega corporation like that should never get any tax incentives. I believe Toronto's bid did not have any tax incentives for Amazon, which was the right thing to do.
 
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