I have had a few vehicles with the 3 on the tree. Don't know about the other makes, but after a GM vehicle gets about 50,000 miles on it the gear shift linkage occasionally jams up. This always seems to happen on a hill. You have to open the hood and monkey with the linkage while making sure the car doesn't roll down the hill.
Is it the end of an era for stick-shift cars?
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Besides being an idiot CVT is the wave of the future
Automatic is as dead as manual
Your response shows how out of touch you are with reality
BTW many luxury do not use CVT because of the NOISE
They are far more efficient than a normal Auto (and yes a 9 speed auto as linked in article is premium vast majority of cars have nowhere near that many gears)
Show me a single brand that does not come with a CVT as standard
Infiniti and Audi certainly do
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You are clueless.
CVT is a piece of shit and dead.
Do your own google search
"AUDI killed off CVT."
Audi killed off its CVT in 2014 LOL.
Hard to take you seriously when you didn't even know it was called a CVT.
I already posted a link to Infiniti getting rid of it as well.
You must drive some load that came equipped with a CVT and the salesman sold you a load of crap and you were dumb enough to believe him.
No-one who is serious about cars wants a CVT transmission. Not ever.
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Besides pure idiocy EVERY single Audi & Infiniti come with CVT lol
If you doubt me go to the build & price website (I even checked since you mentioned a specific model by name)
You seem to be doubling down in some pathetic attempt to try and argue but you don't have a leg to stand on
Here are the websites tell me a single model where your ridiculous comment is true
Audi Canada
Explore the full lineup of Audi vehicles: Sport, SUVs, sedans, EVs. Build and price, find your Canadian dealer, discover the latest technology, and more.
www.audi.ca
Luxury Cars, SUVs, Sedans, and Crossovers | INFINITI Canada
Visit INFINITI the Official Canada site for luxury cars, coupes, sedans, and crossovers. Build your own INFINITI today, view special offers, find a local retailer, or request an internet quote
www.infiniti.ca
This is what it boils down to, some need to prove they are macho while others are secure in who they are.
What about electric toothbrushes, are they seen as feminine to you?
You are clueless.
CVT is a piece of shit and dead.
Do your own google search
"AUDI killed off CVT."
Audi killed off its CVT in 2014 LOL.
Hard to take you seriously when you didn't even know it was called a CVT.
I already posted a link to Infiniti getting rid of it as well.
You must drive some old load that came equipped with a CVT and the
Audi does not use the CVT anymore, has not since 2014 because it's a piece of shit unit. The CVT that Audi was using was a very problematic transmission that was renowned to die between 50,000 km and 100,000 km so Audi put a fork in it. But I digress.Besides pure idiocy EVERY single Audi & Infiniti come with CVT lol
If you doubt me go to the build & price website (I even checked since you mentioned a specific model by name)
You seem to be doubling down in some pathetic attempt to try and argue but you don't have a leg to stand on
Here are the websites tell me a single model where your ridiculous comment is true
Audi Canada
Explore the full lineup of Audi vehicles: Sport, SUVs, sedans, EVs. Build and price, find your Canadian dealer, discover the latest technology, and more.
Luxury Cars, SUVs, Sedans, and Crossovers | INFINITI Canada
Visit INFINITI the Official Canada site for luxury cars, coupes, sedans, and crossovers. Build your own INFINITI today, view special offers, find a local retailer, or request an internet quote
Using your own link above, I clicked on the A4 quatrro which is a very popular Audi model
Under "Specifications" look at Drivelines.
It says, "7 speed S tronic"
The A6 has the same 7 speed transmission.
7 speed means its a conventional transmission with 7 gears. A CVT does not have gears / speeds. A CVT has a system of 2 pullies and steel belt. Do you somehow think that an S Tronic is a CVT Transmission because it has "tronic" in there??
Here, read this. How a CVT Transmission works.
Here's a cut-away of the Audi 7 Speed S tronic Transmission - note the gears!!
Please, do a little google search at the very least before you embarrass yourself further.
Here's a cutaway of an Audi CVT Transmission - "multitronic" is what they called them. Long since relegated to the scrap heap of dumb fucking ideas. NOTE IT HAS PULLIES AND A BELT that take the place of gears.
It was a joke, but clearly it touched a nerve with you. So I will infer that you don't know how to drive a manual transmission (and that you have very nice teeth).
I was on highway 7 in Perth in 1991, at about 11pm on a Saturday night heading west home to visit parents ,working in Ottawa thru a uni summer break after I got off work late.
Moved the shift lever to put in gear, and hear a bang then it spun around. Linkage part broke.
Crawled under truck, saw the problem, saw broken end was on bottom so dangling link would not be a problem.
Find logs to stop back tire, tool box and seat moved up to jam clutch pedal to the floor.
Crawled back under and shifted on tranny levers into second, using pliers.
Revved the engine and rode the clutch to start moving from second gear. Drove 300km home in second gear. Would coast down hills with clutch to the floor to let engine cool a bit.
Windows down and heater going full blast to help cool the engine. One stop in Peterborough at late night gas station to buy more gas, since eating more with higher revs. Home 3am.
Next day down the shop my dad managed, pull a short rod of 3/8" mild steel cold rolled round bar, bend the 90's it needed after heat in the oxy torch. Use broken part as a template
Grind the bent ends to length, drill holes to accommodate cotter pins, and install it. Ordered a factory replacement part but never end up installing it. The home brew worked until the ignition module died in 1995. Brake lines were also starting to fail here and there and it became too much of a pita for an everyday vehicle and I had the truck towed to a scrap yard Second engine but over 450k on the rest of the running gear which was pretty good for a 1977 vehicle.
I can drive a manual but I much prefer an automatic.
My teeth are horrible.
it may have been a joke but I suspect it’s based on what you see as truth which tells us more about yourself than me.
I now have the most useful comment in this thread.
The overarching, outstanding, matchless advantage of the manual transmission is the ability, in the event of a dead battery, to get a bunch of pals to push like hell so that you can bump-start the car.
Case closed.
Game set match.
The overarching, outstanding, matchless advantage of the manual transmission is the ability, in the event of a dead battery, to get a bunch of pals to push like hell so that you can bump-start the car.
Case closed.
Game set match.
I had to this about 20 years ago, but didn't need bunch of guys. Small light car and pop that clutch! Car was moving pretty fast in neutral before getting the deed done. Unfortunatley I had a bit of a flat road ahead before the slope. So exciting though.
Man someone is clearly triggered and laughably so
No you actually were the 1st one to talk about a specific CVT
As I recall you even made some feeble attempt to mock my description of it
That also is why you keep falling back to your 2014 posts about a 1st gen CVT by Audi that has long since been replaced by a hybrid 2nd gen
CVTs are here to stay
You mentioned Audi & Infiniti and you can clearly see options on both vehicles as posted above
Just remembered that I had an early Toyota Corolla with manual transmission. Not sure why I ever did this, but got to the point where I could find the correct RPM and shift gears without using the clutch. No grinding or other unusual noises. Even got so good at it that I could downshift without the clutch too.
My wife uses an electric toothbrush, but I use a manual one, cuz I wear the pants in the house!
Except that you won't have any pals because you alienated them all with your Manual Purism
I've been driving manual for 40 years and am now considering getting either the new Golf GTI or R with the 7-speed DSG. Any advice or comments? Let's keep this civil, guys
My first 4 cars were manuals. The last one was a mistake, as I was already ready to go to automatic by that point but my friends convinced me to get another manual. I was already having back problems, and operating a clutch pedal is bad for your back. Are manuals going away? Yup, most definitely. Will I miss them? Not in the least.
All of the advantages of manuals have been going away, and the various automatics take the top ranks nowadays. Of course there are many different types of automatics nowadays, from the traditional slushboxes, to the dual-clutch, to the CVT. Just looking at the traditional slushbox automatic, and ignoring DCT and CVT, slushboxes are taking all of the crowns. The fastest accelerating versions of cars are now the automatics. The most fuel economical are now the automatics. They even take the fastest on-track performance crown most of the time now. There is nothing that a manual has an advantage in now, except giving the most back aches, and most frustration in traffic jams.
I don't see what the nostalgia is for manuals anyways. Why is there no nostalgia for manual chokes? What about manual crankshaft winding starters? Carburetors vs. fuel injection? There is no nostalgia for those because all of their replacement technologies have made life much more convenient, with no downsides. The same is now true of manual vs. automatic transmissions.
But this is all moot now anyways. At the dawn of the electric motors, which don't even need transmissions, this is a debate about the best buggy whips.
All of the advantages of manuals have been going away, and the various automatics take the top ranks nowadays. Of course there are many different types of automatics nowadays, from the traditional slushboxes, to the dual-clutch, to the CVT. Just looking at the traditional slushbox automatic, and ignoring DCT and CVT, slushboxes are taking all of the crowns. The fastest accelerating versions of cars are now the automatics. The most fuel economical are now the automatics. They even take the fastest on-track performance crown most of the time now. There is nothing that a manual has an advantage in now, except giving the most back aches, and most frustration in traffic jams.
I don't see what the nostalgia is for manuals anyways. Why is there no nostalgia for manual chokes? What about manual crankshaft winding starters? Carburetors vs. fuel injection? There is no nostalgia for those because all of their replacement technologies have made life much more convenient, with no downsides. The same is now true of manual vs. automatic transmissions.
But this is all moot now anyways. At the dawn of the electric motors, which don't even need transmissions, this is a debate about the best buggy whips.
