2020-21 Canadiens Thread

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Fitting result. The team with the 18th best record has no business being in the finals. Grit and luck should only get you so far.

And the country certainly wasn't behind them. I barely watched it. None of my friends watched it. I suspect the ratings will be shit except in Quebec.
 
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I guess this may have helped just a wee bit on TBay's cup repeat.
The Lightning were able to keep most of the team together because Nikita Kucherov went on long-term injured reserve after having offseason hip surgery and missing the entire 56-game regular season. That allowed them to exceed the cap by the amount of his $9.5 million hit.
 

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And the country certainly wasn't behind them. I barely watched it. None of my friends watched it. I suspect the ratings will be shit except in Quebec.
I disagree. I suspect more people in the country watched it than you think. Significantly less people would have watched a Vegas - Tampa Bay final as opposed to a Canadiens - Tampa Bay series.
 

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Significantly less people would have watched a Vegas - Tampa Bay final as opposed to a Canadiens - Tampa Bay series.
I think the rest of the country outside Toronto hate Toronto.

Anyway, the Habs have a 3-1 playoff record (only one team is 4-0). Any intelligent, knowledgeable and objective hockey fan/observer will agree the Habs performed exceptionally well in the playoffs.
 

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If you type in celebration in tampa bay in google your first result will still be the Bucanneers victory.

That is the difference between hockey in the south American states and Canada.

Kucherov might blast the fans of Montreal celebrating one win in the series yet the streets were completely empty at midnight after their team won the cup. That's what having about 100k fan versus 4 millions does.

Don't get me wrong Tampa Bay is a great team. The problem is that there is no passion behind their victory. No one cares.
 

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I guess this may have helped just a wee bit on TBay's cup repeat.
The Lightning were able to keep most of the team together because Nikita Kucherov went on long-term injured reserve after having offseason hip surgery and missing the entire 56-game regular season. That allowed them to exceed the cap by the amount of his $9.5 million hit.
You only realized this just now?
 
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If you type in celebration in tampa bay in google your first result will still be the Bucanneers victory.

That is the difference between hockey in the south American states and Canada.

Kucherov might blast the fans of Montreal celebrating one win in the series yet the streets were completely empty at midnight after their team won the cup. That's what having about 100k fan versus 4 millions does.

Don't get me wrong Tampa Bay is a great team. The problem is that there is no passion behind their victory. No one cares.
You have to be careful about making these comments however.

Not talking specifically about you, but some take the perspective that a Montreal fan is almost automatically better than a Tampa fan because of the large group support.

The thing is at the indicidual leve many of these fans are just as passionate and smart as Habs fans. There are just fewer of them. When you are in a market with less fans you have to search harder for information — that search tends to make one more informed of the game. Deducted fans of small market are as a whole sometimes smarter than dedicated fans of a large markets because they have to work and seek knowledge more.

I will give you an example. I was a hardcore Expos fans until the end. Some people would say Expos fans know nothing because there is a lack of support. Which was a farce. But as an individual I was smarter than many fans, and I went through a lot of crap following the team to the end. That was passion. Passion is not just about numbers of fans.
 

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You have to be careful about making these comments however.

Not talking specifically about you, but some take the perspective that a Montreal fan is almost automatically better than a Tampa fan because of the large group support.

The thing is at the indicidual leve many of these fans are just as passionate and smart as Habs fans. There are just fewer of them. When you are in a market with less fans you have to search harder for information — that search tends to make one more informed of the game. Deducted fans of small market are as a whole sometimes smarter than dedicated fans of a large markets because they have to work and seek knowledge more.

I will give you an example. I was a hardcore Expos fans until the end. Some people would say Expos fans know nothing because there is a lack of support. Which was a farce. But as an individual I was smarter than many fans, and I went through a lot of crap following the team to the end. That was passion. Passion is not just about numbers of fans.
That's a great point. Sorry if my comment was not written well enough I have not suggest that Montreal fan were better.

My main point I guess is that hockey should have been in Seatle and Las Vegas way sooner. And cities like Portland, Hamilton, Hartford, Quebec and a few other cities should have had a hockey team before florida or arizona... I went to games in both of these places and it's dry... Look at how Atlanta let go of their hockey team and is now thriving with a soccer team that fills up 40k crowd in average! Soccer will eat up the market down there because next to no one cares about hockey.
 

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Fitting result. The team with the 18th best record has no business being in the finals. Grit and luck should only get you so far.

And the country certainly wasn't behind them. I barely watched it. None of my friends watched it. I suspect the ratings will be shit except in Quebec.
You know you can compare rating from 2021 to prior years right?

Is 25 games in 42 days to end the season lucky?

I would retort further on the 18th place stat and how they do not deserve to be on the playoffs. and all this luck, but i already did it before to a s88 post and no one responded.
 
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That's a great point. Sorry if my comment was not written well enough I have not suggest that Montreal fan were better.

My main point I guess is that hockey should have been in Seatle and Las Vegas way sooner. And cities like Portland, Hamilton, Hartford, Quebec and a few other cities should have had a hockey team before florida or arizona... I went to games in both of these places and it's dry... Look at how Atlanta let go of their hockey team and is now thriving with a soccer team that fills up 40k crowd in average! Soccer will eat up the market down there because next to no one cares about hockey.
That's a great point. Sorry if my comment was not written well enough I have not suggest that Montreal fan were better.

My main point I guess is that hockey should have been in Seatle and Las Vegas way sooner. And cities like Portland, Hamilton, Hartford, Quebec and a few other cities should have had a hockey team before florida or arizona... I went to games in both of these places and it's dry... Look at how Atlanta let go of their hockey team and is now thriving with a soccer team that fills up 40k crowd in average! Soccer will eat up the market down there because next to no one cares about hockey.
Fair enough. As a group that lacks passion on a mass scale in those cities. But some of the fans that follow the team are very passionate.

As for the support. Tampa had some low periods but they have did OK attendance wise generally even in their down years. They have not been at the levels of Miami or Phoenix even if not that great.
 

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That's a great point. Sorry if my comment was not written well enough I have not suggest that Montreal fan were better.

My main point I guess is that hockey should have been in Seatle and Las Vegas way sooner. And cities like Portland, Hamilton, Hartford, Quebec and a few other cities should have had a hockey team before florida or arizona... I went to games in both of these places and it's dry... Look at how Atlanta let go of their hockey team and is now thriving with a soccer team that fills up 40k crowd in average! Soccer will eat up the market down there because next to no one cares about hockey.
Hartford and Quebec did have teams before Fla and AZ.
 

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The Habs record this season including playoffs is 37W-37L (including 11 OT losses, SS88 counts loser points as losses).
 

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The Habs record this season including playoffs is 37W-37L (including 11 OT losses, SS88 counts loser points as losses).
Superstar 88 math. M

He considers going 4-1 in overtime in the playoffs as luck. But going 3-11 in overtime in the regular season is also being lucky.
 
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2021 definitely not winding down the way MTL envisioned it. NHL sources say Shea Weber will not play in 2021-2022 season, and his career is likely over due to severity of ongoing/lingering injuries.
 

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NHL sources say Shea Weber will not play in 2021-2022 season, and his career is likely over due to severity of ongoing/lingering injuries.
Maybe he will be good for the playoffs and Mtl can pull a Tampa Bay. Unless they close that loophole.
 
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