Woman in tight clothes walks around NYC with camera crew, Is shocked men talk to her. :rolleyes:
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Yep. And you just keep taking it in that circle, without giving up.
This is the level of communication I was talking about. Anything other level of communication is you attempting to put words in my mouth.
Again, I sometimes feel harassed by Homeless people coming up to me and asking me, pretty much anything. Because of that, should I be able to demand that no homeless person should be able to talk to any stranger on the street, no matter how politely they do it? Just because I don't want to be bothered by a stranger?
I never used the word "Sexy" in my original post. Others brought up that word. And seeing as how that is the word they chose to use to defend their stance, I simply used the logic of that word to poke holes in their defence. And since you have circled it back to this once again, I will quote my analysis post for a third time. Try actually reading it this time. Or look up some evolutionary psychology studies.
Compliments are not catcalls.
I'm done with this. Even after it was pointed out to you how many times you circled around this argument, you went ahead and circled it around yet again, and still tried putting words in my mouth that I never said.
It's like having a discussion with some anti-vaxer, who refuses to acknowledge science or logic.
Bye.
And telling a woman on the street, that she is beautiful is not legally considered harassment. Period. Full stop. No if's, no ands, no buts.
This is the level of communication I was talking about. Anything other level of communication is you attempting to put words in my mouth.
Yes they were.
This statement is what I was specifically responding to. Noted by my quoting it in my original post. (Cause that's what quoting someone in your post means.)
Again, I sometimes feel harassed by Homeless people coming up to me and asking me, pretty much anything. Because of that, should I be able to demand that no homeless person should be able to talk to any stranger on the street, no matter how politely they do it? Just because I don't want to be bothered by a stranger?
Once again, you keep putting words in my mouth. I never demanded anything.
I never used the word "Sexy" in my original post. Others brought up that word. And seeing as how that is the word they chose to use to defend their stance, I simply used the logic of that word to poke holes in their defence. And since you have circled it back to this once again, I will quote my analysis post for a third time. Try actually reading it this time. Or look up some evolutionary psychology studies.
Yes. But you quoted and responded to a post that was specifically talking about Compliments, not catcalls. And that post was in response to another post's statement about compliments.
Compliments are not catcalls.
I'm done with this. Even after it was pointed out to you how many times you circled around this argument, you went ahead and circled it around yet again, and still tried putting words in my mouth that I never said.
It's like having a discussion with some anti-vaxer, who refuses to acknowledge science or logic.
Bye.
The original youtube video of this thread is about catcall. Not about complimenting a lady out on the street.
Simple, catcall, like unsolicited dick pick, is just fucking no go.
Simple, catcall, like unsolicited dick pick, is just fucking no go.
The problem with this thread is all the lines are getting crossed between the crotch-grabbing guttural Neandertals and the ultra polite respectful gentleman.
Men and women end up in lifelong relationships after meeting in the streets, duh, this video suggests that can never happen because a woman in public can't be approached.
I would be equally interested to see this young lady and her cohort chase down the gentlemen who politely smiled at her and moved on. I would love to hear that dialogue, excuse me why didn't you say good morning to me when I smiled at you? Why didn't you look at my boobs when you looked at me? Is it undermining this video to suggest there are good guys out there that know how to handle themselves in public?
Well, we all know that with enough views this video goes viral ( Kaching ) and polite gentlemen just don't sell cookies, do they?
LJ
Dude, aside from your shoddy quote work, where you've confused quotes from Jenesis and me, your post just destroyed your argument.
You: And telling a woman on the street, that she is beautiful is not legally considered harassment. Period. Full stop. No if's, no ands, no buts.
This after she implied that what you think are compliments she thinks is harassment.
She says your 'compliments' which you also say is a form of 'courtship' are harassment, legal or not.
The rest of your posts are all about you mansplaining to her why her feelings are wrong, she's hypocritical and you have a legal right to harass her. You really do have a winning way with women. If you're really stuck on this approach can you stick to finding the last neighbourhoods with street walkers, where they might actually take you up on your 'courtship' offers?
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Totally. Its not like you can't talk to women on the street, but you just have to do so very respectfully and in a way that they don't think is creepy or aggressive, and that includes listening to them when they tell you your approach is creepy.
Everything, went right over your head. Everything. You didn't even read what I wrote.
My statement of calling a woman beautiful not legally being considered harassment was in response to your statement that harassment is illegal.
It in fact support my entire argument, not destroys it. Can you even comprehend English? Do you even know how quoting someone works? Obviously not.
And she has no right to make unilateral demands over subjective "harrasment" that is legally allowed, by people anymore than I have a right to make unilateral demands from people I feel are subjectively, yet legally "harrasing" me asking for directions.
Look pick up a book on evolutionary psychology. Maybe look into Desmond Morris's The Human Animal while your at it. Also look into the Charter of rights and freedoms.
Then get back to me.
Good Bye.
She wasn't making 'demands', as far as I can tell she was just saying that what you think is 'courtship' is considered harassment.
And all you're saying is that you will continue to harass women cuz you can.
Classy.
Why are posts from pages ago still being quoted and debated after I have said twice now that I am done debating.
@Uncharted - dude, I am done. Was done. You think what you do, I think what I do. Ee are not changing the others mind. It is pointless to continue so I’m done. EOD
@Uncharted - dude, I am done. Was done. You think what you do, I think what I do. Ee are not changing the others mind. It is pointless to continue so I’m done. EOD
That's fine. You are done.
Others still want to have this discussion among themselves. Your posts are part of the public record in this particular thread and has added and shaped the topic at hand, and therefore are open to be quoted in the on going discussion OTHER people are having in this thread. No one is forcing you to respond, or take part anymore.
But you can not seriously think you can demand that no one quote public forum posts you made in a thread for the continued discussion of the thread topic by others?
Wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose of a public discussion forum?
I respect you, and I don't want to anger you, but I will not apologize for doing exactly what a person is supposed to do in a Public Discussion Forum.
Whenever I see an attractive girl on dem streetz I do the following
I go up to her, pat her on the head, scratch her behind the ears and say "Who is a pretty girl, huh, who is a pretty girl, yes you are, yes you are" as if I was talking to a cat or dog.
Is this wrong?
I go up to her, pat her on the head, scratch her behind the ears and say "Who is a pretty girl, huh, who is a pretty girl, yes you are, yes you are" as if I was talking to a cat or dog.
Is this wrong?
You are missing what I am saying. You were quoting me directly and speaking to me directly. I don’t want to be rude and just ignore you. Which is why I have said three times now that I am done in this debate. So people know. You are quoting me from days ago trying to continue something I have stated I don’t want to continue. I don’t know why you want to try and force me continue. It is basically no different then unsolicited commenting. I don’t want it. Please refrain from engaging in this debate with me personally any further. Is that so wrong to ask?
As for using my posts as part of the general discussion, if you or others want to quote me as apart of the discussion - fine, but don’t twist my words and context and therefor again try to force me to come and clarify, thereby forcing me to continue the debate. Which I have yet to do but lord knows you are trying whether you realize it or not.
I have now directly asked you stop. You don’t seem to want to, basically you seem to like doing things that other people don’t like or haven’t asked for. Sort of a fuck you attitude to everyone else, you will do what you want no matter the effect on others.
Noted.
But again; I am done. So using my words to twist the meaning or continuing to personally engage me will not be met with any other posts from me. The more you continue to try, the more people will see you for the type of person you truly are. It doesn’t take a lot to give others a little respect. You say you respect me, yet these actions seem to say otherwise.
I asked politely, I stated my request numerous times now. Others can draw the conclusion from here.
I was thinking about Videos I've seen where guys pull up in Lambo's and other cars and suddenly women are interested. Admittedly some are staged it looks like.
But really it comes down to this. Its only harassment if she doesn't like it.
That being said the construction guys and other Yahoos are crass idiots who are doing it as much out of habit and to impress fellow guy onlookers than any real interest. Sure they get an occasional nibble. But really its just casting lines and and seeing if lures work more than actually catching anything.
Personally I don't get it. But I used to play the familiarity game and use humour rather than cold calling like that.
But really it comes down to this. Its only harassment if she doesn't like it.
That being said the construction guys and other Yahoos are crass idiots who are doing it as much out of habit and to impress fellow guy onlookers than any real interest. Sure they get an occasional nibble. But really its just casting lines and and seeing if lures work more than actually catching anything.
Personally I don't get it. But I used to play the familiarity game and use humour rather than cold calling like that.
I'm sorry you feel I was speaking with you directly, but I can assure you I was not.
I have been speaking directly with Frankfooter. Since he started engaging with me. I was quoting your posts to show Frankfooter exactly what my original post was responding to. Necessary because he seems to either have a very selective memory, or a wildly imaginative one. You were and are not solicited nor required to respond. It was a conversation Frankfooter and I were having. It may have been initiated by a post you made, but you were not being asked to participate any further.
And unless you convince an admin to lock this thread, I believe it is fair policy that any post in this thread can be quoted, at any time by others, for the purposes of continued civil discussion within the thread, for the topic at hand.
And at the risk of being rude, you seem to have a supremely selfish attitude that your wishes trump everyone else's rights no matter how unreasonable your wishes are.
The posts belong to the forum not you. Forum members can quote those posts, as they wish, within the boundaries and rules of the forum.
I'm sorry you don't like that, but the world does not revolve around you.
Have a good day.
From Ontario's definition of 'criminal harassment'.
What behaviours comprise stalking?
Stalking can include a number of different behaviours intended to control and frighten the person being stalked. Most commonly, this can involve: - repeated telephone calls (the caller may hang up or remain silent on the line) to your home, cell phone or workplace in order to “track” your whereabouts - repeated letters or stealing mail - repeated emails [threatening or obscene e-mail or text messages; spamming (in which a stalker sends a victim a multitude of junk e-mail); live chat harassment called flaming; leaving improper messages on message boards or in guest books;
She says leave her out of the conversation, you should apologize and do so, not start flaming her.
Since the argument has boiled down to your belief that you should be able to harass women and they should deal with it if they choose to dress nicely, you should at least read the law to find out at which point it becomes criminal.
And for the sake of argument, I know you don't consider your tactics harassment but then likely the Dundas and Yonge preachers with their megaphones also think the same thing.
Objection your honour!
Relevance?
My client has not violated any Forum Rules.
And once again....
Once again, your client argues for the right to harass, keep harassing after being notified their behaviour is 'harassment' and suggests its rude to criticize harassment.
Your client still argues that their victims views towards his behaviour don't matter as long as his intent is the noble act of courtship allowed any male towards any female at any time and in any manner as long as your client declares its not harassment.
Note that the classiness of your client is on trial, not whether he broke laws or forum rules.
That would have cinched the deal, but I don't like to make it too easy for them. Make the bitch do some of the work I say.
I don't do cat calls, but when attractive women start to age, its pretty funny watching them try to compensate and get the attention that used to annoy them.
