How is she an attention seeker when she was asked to do this for the news segment???? She is a model and they hired her.Yawn just another attention seeker.
What ever lady.How is she an attention seeker when she was asked to do this for the news segment???? She is a model and they hired her.
Projecting much. We all know how you seek attention around here.
As a normal person, if women were to comment that I'm handsome, I would take the compliment in stride and move on. In fact, it would make me feel great, just as the compliments from men make female attention seekers feel great. It's a win-win.Do you know the definition of harass.
It is unpleasant for some people when they are called at while simply walking down the street.
Why does your right to say something trump their right to have to hear it?
This goes for every type of calling and commenting. Be it negative or positive. If you were calling out to a black guy calling him names, that would be unacceptable but because it is calling out to a woman and saying something you think it positive, it all of sudden becomes ok. Why?
Why can’t you guys just be quiet, keep your comments to yourself and let people walk down the street in peace without being - yes - harassed with unwelcome comments?
Please explain to me why you have to say something and can’t just leave a person alone?
That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.As a normal person, if women were to comment that I'm handsome, I would take the compliment in stride and move on. In fact, it would make me feel great, just as the compliments from men make female attention seekers feel great. It's a win-win.
However, I'm opposed to harassment. Let's not conflate the two. It makes for a frigid city like Toronto.
Again; I know pumpkin. Truth hurts.What ever lady.
Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.
So You still have yet to answer my question though; why do you have to say something? Why is your right to speak trumping her right to walk freely with comment?
Why are you the gentleman for making the unasked for comment because it is a positive one but she is the frigid bitch for not wanting or accepting it?
What kind of world will we have if just speaking to a stranger is considered 'predatory' behaviour?That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.
So You still have yet to answer my question though; why do you have to say something? Why is your right to speak trumping her right to walk freely with comment?
Why are you the gentleman for making the unasked for comment because it is a positive one but she is the frigid bitch for not wanting or accepting it?
Again; I know pumpkin. Truth hurts.
Ya I can. And when I go out, I dress down because of it and I hate it.Funny I dated a couple of huge boobed women in my life. In postgrad school one said she had to give up jogging despite strapping down her H cup boobs mainly because of all the lewd comments when she was out on the street. Another was a J cup (like porn star Maserati xxx; my lady friend was 5-10 ebony w a big natural fro) and everywhere we went people stared and gawked -men and even women, who would stare but break it before their hubbies or bf's did, then notice their man was still staring so they'd slap them lol). It was difficult for these ladies indeed. The second lady would often borrow a flannel shirt from me to wear to try to deemphasise her chest.
Ahh miss them both lol. That was a good 30+ years ago.
Jenesis you're quite the well endowed lady too so I'm sure you relate to the power of your boobs to turn male brains mushy.
Ok , so I should put up with being told repeatedly, over and over, every time I go out, that I have nice tits???? I shouldn’t be able to just go to the store without having to hear it because you think people should be receptive to compliments?Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.
We are not talking about causal conversation. That is different.What kind of world will we have if just speaking to a stranger is considered 'predatory' behaviour?
It's a fascinating discussion. As a man, I really don't mind being approached by males or females when I'm out and about.
But I drilled down on that a little deeper. In the old days walking around Parkdale, it seemed that every off balance patient from the old 99 Queen St. mental hospital would approach me for a conversation. I must admit I attempted to minimize or avoid these.
Being cold to one another certainly takes much of the pleasure out of city life, but I can understand the desire to minimize uncomfortable interactions.
The problem is not one nice compliment. Its the abundance of it. And its men turning to monkey when the women ignores them. About 3-4 years ago a work colleague was walking to our office. In the summer when she arrived at the office she would tell me what she had been cat called... hey beauty... hey need a dick... are you lesbian.. bitch... bitchy bitch... be my slut.. and a lot more...Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.
Yes, I can't imagine why any man would figure telling you that you have nice tits in the fishing aisle of Walmart would be a great come on line.We are not talking about causal conversation. That is different.
We are talking about a woman walking down 4 blocks and getting 20 guys calling to her. Some making some seriously vulgar comments.
Why can’t I go shopping without being told I have nice tits? And why if I get ticked off at that, I’m the frigid bitch?
I know I have nice tits. I show them where I want to get the attention. Going to Walmart is not where I want guys commenting on my tits. Why is that so wrong?
The last thing she would want me to do is to get into a physical or verbal confrontation with two guys. These days there are so many idiots out there, it is best to look the other way because you have no idea who they are or what they are capable of. I assessed the matter very quickly and based upon what they looked like and the POS car they were driving, why put my SO in any possible physical danger. But hey, keep coming with the idiotic commentsDid you do or say anything? If some guy insults your wife and you let it slide, i'd say you are the loser.
Probably because you are not having to beat them away from trying to hump your leg while waking tall down the aisle. LOL.Yes, I can't imagine why any man would figure telling you that you have nice tits in the fishing aisle of Walmart would be a great come on line.
On the other hand, women from 15 to 90 will regularly comment on my height, in all kinds of places.
I know I'm tall, but it doesn't bother me a bit that they remind me of it.
I'm not disagreeing with you Jen. I can see your point and it's quite reasonable.Probably because you are not having to beat them away from trying to hump your leg while waking tall down the aisle. LOL.
I should probably make it more clear. It is not the conversation, it is the material used. And often the material is not something you would want said to your daughter, sister or mother at any age.
And to repeat, it is not the ONE comment from the ONE guy on ONE day. It is the thousands of comments by a hundred guys every damn day. If it was once in a while and the comment was an acceptable compliment by the usual respectful standards, then that would be different but that is not what the reality is.
Totally get the other side. I do. Although I did read of a male model discussing the same thing and he was of the side of keep it quiet and enjoy the visual. I wish I could find the article.I'm not disagreeing with you Jen. I can see your point and it's quite reasonable.
Surely however, you can see it from the other side, right? Most guys would kill for a bevy of women to comment on his body, or crotch, or arms, or whatever.
I think it's very much like unsolicited nude photos. Men love 'em...women hate 'em.
How often have you heard a man say to "nice rack" to a woman in Toronto? Someone is exaggerating. The fact that your friends say such actions never lead to a date incentivizes them to not do it.And another thing. I cannot for the life of me think of a time when a bloke would say a "whoa nice rack" and a woman say "oh you smooth talker...here's my number." I ask me mates if they've ever known of a time where blurting out some comment on a woman's appearance has ever led to a real date. Answer - never.