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Yawn just another attention seeker.
How is she an attention seeker when she was asked to do this for the news segment???? She is a model and they hired her.

Projecting much. We all know how you seek attention around here.
 
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How is she an attention seeker when she was asked to do this for the news segment???? She is a model and they hired her.

Projecting much. We all know how you seek attention around here.
What ever lady.
 

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Do you know the definition of harass.

It is unpleasant for some people when they are called at while simply walking down the street.

Why does your right to say something trump their right to have to hear it?

This goes for every type of calling and commenting. Be it negative or positive. If you were calling out to a black guy calling him names, that would be unacceptable but because it is calling out to a woman and saying something you think it positive, it all of sudden becomes ok. Why?

Why can’t you guys just be quiet, keep your comments to yourself and let people walk down the street in peace without being - yes - harassed with unwelcome comments?

Please explain to me why you have to say something and can’t just leave a person alone?
As a normal person, if women were to comment that I'm handsome, I would take the compliment in stride and move on. In fact, it would make me feel great, just as the compliments from men make female attention seekers feel great. It's a win-win.

However, I'm opposed to harassment. Let's not conflate the two. It makes for a frigid city like Toronto.
 

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As a normal person, if women were to comment that I'm handsome, I would take the compliment in stride and move on. In fact, it would make me feel great, just as the compliments from men make female attention seekers feel great. It's a win-win.

However, I'm opposed to harassment. Let's not conflate the two. It makes for a frigid city like Toronto.
That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.

So You still have yet to answer my question though; why do you have to say something? Why is your right to speak trumping her right to walk freely with comment?

Why are you the gentleman for making the unasked for comment because it is a positive one but she is the frigid bitch for not wanting or accepting it?


What ever lady.
Again; I know pumpkin. Truth hurts.
 
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Funny I dated a couple of huge boobed women in my life. In postgrad school one said she had to give up jogging despite strapping down her H cup boobs mainly because of all the lewd comments when she was out on the street. Another was a J cup (like porn star Maserati xxx; my lady friend was 5-10 ebony w a big natural fro) and everywhere we went people stared and gawked -men and even women, who would stare but break it before their hubbies or bf's did, then notice their man was still staring so they'd slap them lol). It was difficult for these ladies indeed. The second lady would often borrow a flannel shirt from me to wear to try to deemphasise her chest.
Ahh miss them both lol. That was a good 30+ years ago.
Jenesis you're quite the well endowed lady too so I'm sure you relate to the power of your boobs to turn male brains mushy.
 

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That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.

So You still have yet to answer my question though; why do you have to say something? Why is your right to speak trumping her right to walk freely with comment?

Why are you the gentleman for making the unasked for comment because it is a positive one but she is the frigid bitch for not wanting or accepting it?
Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.
 
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That is you though. Not everyone is like you. Many women don’t want to hear it. They just want to get from A to B comment free. Not all women wearing clothes you find revealing, are attention seekers. You think a dress is appealing, she is just wearing a spring dress in her mind.

So You still have yet to answer my question though; why do you have to say something? Why is your right to speak trumping her right to walk freely with comment?

Why are you the gentleman for making the unasked for comment because it is a positive one but she is the frigid bitch for not wanting or accepting it?



Again; I know pumpkin. Truth hurts.
What kind of world will we have if just speaking to a stranger is considered 'predatory' behaviour?

It's a fascinating discussion. As a man, I really don't mind being approached by males or females when I'm out and about.

But I drilled down on that a little deeper. In the old days walking around Parkdale, it seemed that every off balance patient from the old 99 Queen St. mental hospital would approach me for a conversation. I must admit I attempted to minimize or avoid these.

Being cold to one another certainly takes much of the pleasure out of city life, but I can understand the desire to minimize uncomfortable interactions.
 
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Funny I dated a couple of huge boobed women in my life. In postgrad school one said she had to give up jogging despite strapping down her H cup boobs mainly because of all the lewd comments when she was out on the street. Another was a J cup (like porn star Maserati xxx; my lady friend was 5-10 ebony w a big natural fro) and everywhere we went people stared and gawked -men and even women, who would stare but break it before their hubbies or bf's did, then notice their man was still staring so they'd slap them lol). It was difficult for these ladies indeed. The second lady would often borrow a flannel shirt from me to wear to try to deemphasise her chest.
Ahh miss them both lol. That was a good 30+ years ago.
Jenesis you're quite the well endowed lady too so I'm sure you relate to the power of your boobs to turn male brains mushy.
Ya I can. And when I go out, I dress down because of it and I hate it.

Spring/Summer is here and I want to wear pretty dresses and rompers and stuff and I only do it when I’m working because that is when I will accept the comments.

While out, my hat is on, mask and sunglasses. You can’t see my face at all and I wear sports bras to hold them down with big baggy shirts and shit. I have to go out looking like I’m shopping at a US Walmart if I just want to get normal errands done without being harassed or commented on or stared at.

Sometimes I want to wear things to looks and feel pretty for myself and I can’t because some guys like Mr.Know-It-All feel that I must be doing it for attention and therefore they should be allowed to interrupt my day with comments.

Now don’t get me wrong. I’m a professional sex worker. I can politely say thank you and decline an invite at the same time. But it is annoying do have to do on a regular basis. They think they are just one guy on one day making one comment. That is not it. They are ONE OF a hundred guys making ONE OF a thousands comments EVERY DAY. That is a lot. This is why we get annoyed.

But I can handle the “beautiful” comments with a smile and thank you. It is the “great rack” “holy shit there huge” “nice tits” “those must hurt your back” etc etc type comments I can’t stand. I will usually reply back with some small cock comment and move on.

The one I hate the most is when guys say to smile. I had one day that while I was shopping for a guest signin book for a family members funeral some guy said, your so pretty, you should be smiling” I lost it on him. I don’t think he will ever think about telling a woman to smile again.

Now I am friendly when I go out. I will say hi when in an elevator etc. Always tell people to have a great day. Guy or girl, it doesn’t matter. Some men are shocked that I talk to them. Some think a polite smile is an invitation to meet for a fuck in the bathroom in 20 mins. LOL. A woman can just never win. LOL
 

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Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.
Ok , so I should put up with being told repeatedly, over and over, every time I go out, that I have nice tits???? I shouldn’t be able to just go to the store without having to hear it because you think people should be receptive to compliments?

Again, what about the other persons rights to walk freely without being bothered by a stranger?

Why do you think your need to compliment should trump a persons right to freely walk without harassment?

Can you answer that? You are giving the unrequested compliment remember. So you are starting something that someone didn’t ask for and you seem to not give a shit about the fact that they don’t want it. Why is what you want more important then what the other person on the receiving end, wants?
 

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What kind of world will we have if just speaking to a stranger is considered 'predatory' behaviour?

It's a fascinating discussion. As a man, I really don't mind being approached by males or females when I'm out and about.

But I drilled down on that a little deeper. In the old days walking around Parkdale, it seemed that every off balance patient from the old 99 Queen St. mental hospital would approach me for a conversation. I must admit I attempted to minimize or avoid these.

Being cold to one another certainly takes much of the pleasure out of city life, but I can understand the desire to minimize uncomfortable interactions.
We are not talking about causal conversation. That is different.

We are talking about a woman walking down 4 blocks and getting 20 guys calling to her. Some making some seriously vulgar comments.

Why can’t I go shopping without being told I have nice tits? And why if I get ticked off at that, I’m the frigid bitch?

I know I have nice tits. I show them where I want to get the attention. Going to Walmart is not where I want guys commenting on my tits. Why is that so wrong?
 
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Sure, not everyone is like me, but what kind of person is opposed to a compliment? What kind of person experiences revulsion at being told they're attractive? For the minority that may feel this way, I say too bad. It shouldn't be dangerous to compliment someone. We're creating unnecessary divisiveness. We shouldn't make the world a dreary place by accommodating every outlier.
The problem is not one nice compliment. Its the abundance of it. And its men turning to monkey when the women ignores them. About 3-4 years ago a work colleague was walking to our office. In the summer when she arrived at the office she would tell me what she had been cat called... hey beauty... hey need a dick... are you lesbian.. bitch... bitchy bitch... be my slut.. and a lot more...

Guys admire and shut the fuck up.
 
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We are not talking about causal conversation. That is different.

We are talking about a woman walking down 4 blocks and getting 20 guys calling to her. Some making some seriously vulgar comments.

Why can’t I go shopping without being told I have nice tits? And why if I get ticked off at that, I’m the frigid bitch?

I know I have nice tits. I show them where I want to get the attention. Going to Walmart is not where I want guys commenting on my tits. Why is that so wrong?
Yes, I can't imagine why any man would figure telling you that you have nice tits in the fishing aisle of Walmart would be a great come on line.

On the other hand, women from 15 to 90 will regularly comment on my height, in all kinds of places.

I know I'm tall, but it doesn't bother me a bit that they remind me of it.
 

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Did you do or say anything? If some guy insults your wife and you let it slide, i'd say you are the loser.
The last thing she would want me to do is to get into a physical or verbal confrontation with two guys. These days there are so many idiots out there, it is best to look the other way because you have no idea who they are or what they are capable of. I assessed the matter very quickly and based upon what they looked like and the POS car they were driving, why put my SO in any possible physical danger. But hey, keep coming with the idiotic comments
 
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Yes, I can't imagine why any man would figure telling you that you have nice tits in the fishing aisle of Walmart would be a great come on line.

On the other hand, women from 15 to 90 will regularly comment on my height, in all kinds of places.

I know I'm tall, but it doesn't bother me a bit that they remind me of it.
Probably because you are not having to beat them away from trying to hump your leg while waking tall down the aisle. LOL.

I should probably make it more clear. It is not the conversation, it is the material used. And often the material is not something you would want said to your daughter, sister or mother at any age.

And to repeat, it is not the ONE comment from the ONE guy on ONE day. It is the thousands of comments by a hundred guys every damn day. If it was once in a while and the comment was an acceptable compliment by the usual respectful standards, then that would be different but that is not what the reality is.
 

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It's your fault jenesis for being born that way. Just take your boobs off before leaving the house. Lol.

But seriously it's like being at a party and meeting a doctor and on the spot asking him or her to take a look at something. The Doc is a professional but off the clock at the party. You (jenesis) are a professional as well and off the clock living your life shopping or whatever. So compliments on your boobs is saved for "the office" (lol), thus complimenting them at the loblaws is like asking a doc to look at something during a party.

However, you have an additional problem - the Clark Kent problem. Thus unlike a dr who might say "make an appointment for Monday and I'll take a look" you can't say to the drongo at the loblaws "Make a booking after 1pm tomorrow and you can comment on them all you like then." LOL
 

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Probably because you are not having to beat them away from trying to hump your leg while waking tall down the aisle. LOL.

I should probably make it more clear. It is not the conversation, it is the material used. And often the material is not something you would want said to your daughter, sister or mother at any age.

And to repeat, it is not the ONE comment from the ONE guy on ONE day. It is the thousands of comments by a hundred guys every damn day. If it was once in a while and the comment was an acceptable compliment by the usual respectful standards, then that would be different but that is not what the reality is.
I'm not disagreeing with you Jen. I can see your point and it's quite reasonable.

Surely however, you can see it from the other side, right? Most guys would kill for a bevy of women to comment on his body, or crotch, or arms, or whatever.

I think it's very much like unsolicited nude photos. Men love 'em...women hate 'em.
 

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And another thing. I cannot for the life of me think of a time when a bloke would say a "whoa nice rack" and a woman say "oh you smooth talker...here's my number." I ask me mates if they've ever known of a time where blurting out some comment on a woman's appearance has ever led to a real date. Answer - never.
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you Jen. I can see your point and it's quite reasonable.

Surely however, you can see it from the other side, right? Most guys would kill for a bevy of women to comment on his body, or crotch, or arms, or whatever.

I think it's very much like unsolicited nude photos. Men love 'em...women hate 'em.
Totally get the other side. I do. Although I did read of a male model discussing the same thing and he was of the side of keep it quiet and enjoy the visual. I wish I could find the article.

I don’t even think it is a men/woman thing. I am sure there are some women out there who would love to be cat-called and are not simply because they are generally seen as less attractive. This is why I think it is the abundance of it as opposed to the single act.

Now unsolicited pics - that is another story. That is totally a man/woman thing. LOL
 

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And another thing. I cannot for the life of me think of a time when a bloke would say a "whoa nice rack" and a woman say "oh you smooth talker...here's my number." I ask me mates if they've ever known of a time where blurting out some comment on a woman's appearance has ever led to a real date. Answer - never.
How often have you heard a man say to "nice rack" to a woman in Toronto? Someone is exaggerating. The fact that your friends say such actions never lead to a date incentivizes them to not do it.
 
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