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jalimon

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Maybe the OP's upset that his wife only has to pay for the trip. All the sex will be free. A friend of ours went on a trip by herself. She had been in a sexless marriage with one kid for years as well. You could tell they weren't going to be together for a long time. She told me she fucked 5 different guys, some of them a few times on a 1 week vacation to the Dominican. I said that's all? She's such a lovely slut. My wife and I had a couple threesomes with her and I've fucked her many times over the years. Plus, I lost count of the number of times she gave me a BBBJTCCIMSW. She's a champ! lol
I kind of really like lovely sluts ;) When can I meet her? :p
 
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doggyorcg

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Separated means it is over as far as I am concerned

When I say married I mean actually sleeping with someone while they sleep with someone else
Maybe even at her place while he is at work

But seriously if a woman is willing to cheat there really is no reason to respect that relationship (or try to hold onto it)
Either accept you are in an open marriage or cut your losses and move on
Absolutely. The term “open marriage” is an oxymoron. If she or he wants to sleep around, there’s no point getting or staying married. And subjecting kids to their fucked up “marriage” is child abuse.

It doesn’t matter if he or she actually does cheat, what matters is that she has the desire to cheat. That’s the telltale sign the married needs to be deep sixed and fast.
 
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Male4Strapon

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I think it is rich when a married woman says to me she is separated. She thinks that the legal definition of “separated” gives her a free pass.
Why wouldn't it? If they're separated then either party should be free to get laid all they want. I don't think of it as a "free pass" because that implies there remains some commitment they're still tied to. I don't agree that there is when separated and either one of them should do whatever they want.
Now..... if a couple is taking some time apart to see if it helps their relationship that they want to fix, then I can see your side. But if they are separated because the divorce isn't final yet then it's simply semantics and they should fuck whomever they want.
 

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Just for clarity: it has been 10+ solid years with next to zero sex…. That is not a new factor.

The only new factor is the alone part. She would have had easy and ample time to hook-up with other people.
Forgive me if you have already addressed this and I missed it but have you tried to discover and encourage her fantasies? Maybe try to find out if there's something from your non-existent sex life that you can do to improve? Maybe she wants something that she can't bring herself to tell you.

Even if is that she wants to fuck others it's better to know that IMO than have her doing it behind your back. Maybe you can roleplay that without her actually pursuing it?

I think a lot of married people in sexless marriages just get frustrated and expect the other to snap out of it without looking inward and considering if they might be sabotaging their chances by refusing to consider what they might be doing or not doing.
 

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Why wouldn't it? If they're separated then either party should be free to get laid all they want. I don't think of it as a "free pass" because that implies there remains some commitment they're still tied to. I don't agree that there is when separated and either one of them should do whatever they want.
Now..... if a couple is taking some time apart to see if it helps their relationship that they want to fix, then I can see your side. But if they are separated because the divorce isn't final yet then it's simply semantics and they should fuck whomever they want.
Agree. We have to calculate the decision that we can live with. There is a lot of grey area. I just prefer to think of it as either she is unmarried or married. Separated is just a term for people to play around the market. Whenever I played around on dating sites, I filtered out any woman that was separated. I don't have time or patience for that kind of drama. And trust me, there will be drama. The kind of drama that makes you imagine she was a mute or invisible after your SOG.

In my situation, she was separated but it appeared they weren't trying to reconcile nor was the ink on the divorce papers imminent. To me, it just felt off. My conscience got the better of me. I felt as if she was using me to push her over the edge of no return - she also had a couple little kids. (It would have been fun: spinner, GND face, 5'1", 90 lbs, Chinese import, perky B cups, and waist length silky black hair. And no tattoos or piercings. Fawk!)
 
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GTA & Thereabouts...
Forgive me if you have already addressed this and I missed it but have you tried to discover and encourage her fantasies?
Oh God, fuck yes have I tried. Too many times to count. I told her that I can’t understand how she can not want sex with at least somebody…. She just responds that she just doesn’t want to.
 

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I think a lot of married people in sexless marriages just get frustrated and expect the other to snap out of it without looking inward and considering if they might be sabotaging their chances by refusing to consider what they might be doing or not doing.
It's the frog in the boiling water parable. Hard to jump out of the pot when marriage gets worse slowly one day at a time. (Even harder when the couple degenerates into hideous slobs from lack of exercise, inconsistent grooming/hygiene, relentless gravity, daily doses of poisonous alcohol, and.... blah blah blah. But there is still a market for her even after she has degenerated. It is called Match.com.)
 
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In my situation, she was separated but it appeared they weren't trying to reconcile nor was the ink on the divorce papers imminent. To me, it just felt off. My conscience got the better of me. I felt as if she was using me to push her over the edge of no return - she also had a couple little kids. (It would have been fun: spinner, GND face, 5'1", 90 lbs, Chinese import, perky B cups, and waist length silky black hair. And no tattoos or piercings. Fawk!)
I do respect your commitment to your own moral code even if I disagree.
I have a cousin who has been "separated" for years but she refuses to sign off on the divorce out of spite. She does not want him to move on. They have no relationship and haven't lived together in the same home in years. He wants to move on but she has no desire to ever remarry so she doesn't give a shit and would rather fuck him over. So "separation" in this case doesn't do it justice, their marriage couldn't be more dead.
 
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Male4Strapon

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Oh God, fuck yes have I tried. Too many times to count. I told her that I can’t understand how she can not want sex with at least somebody…. She just responds that she just doesn’t want to.
sorry to hear dude. My sex life is lacking but not as badly as your own....... maybe it's time to just let her do what she wants and you do what you want and just give up on any feelings of faithfulness. Her refusal to fix your sex life gives you full permission to seek it elsewhere IMO. If she's not fucking you, then IMO you're only hurting yourself with expectations of her loyalty.
 

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vacation alone, no biggie. I do it, although it’s been ages, for recreation hobbies she doesn’t partake in (the non-SP kind) But, that was always the case.

I’d be suspicious too if it there was a sudden change. Sounds like your wife has a new friend.
 

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I'm 100% with you on this post. While I realize that no man can compete with a woman for access to sex/partners, I am frustrated that I'm unable to drive the agenda or change the parameters. If I act (or acted earlier), I'm the bad guy. If I wait, I'm the loser? I am a competitive person, but with wisdom I realize that win-win situations are ideal. With all the discussions/fighting, I don't see that happening. I feel handcuffed and I'm not used to that. I guess that's my problem...

I come up "aces" in most aspects of my life: Kids, Work, Friends, Sports, etc... Sex-life with the wife is a hard "zero". I never would have seen that coming. As soon as she ate the Wedding Cake, it was over...

I'll always remember a line of hers while fighting over our sex life: "Well.. You were duped!" (She's a super happy person, but when things get heated, her comments/defense mechanisms are to ramp up to Scorched Earth).


OMG! That is me!
I've never seen that set. Thanks for sharing!
See theres the problem right there. That desire to "win" there are times when the desire to win can be counter productive.

For example, lets say you are sparring for 5 minutes. You training partner almosr has a choke fully locked. But you spend 4 minutes clinging on refusing to tap out.

The alternative is to drop your ego tap to the choke, reset and continue sparring.

That is a far better use of your 5 minute sparring round.

So how does this translate to your relationship issue? Your ego is getting you to spend top mich energy on something you cant control. Beinf angry about it is not going to result in anything.

Consider how you can better spend that time instead of stewing.
 
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